Political Orientation

[Vendetta]

Heavy drugs? Against.
Light drugs? For.

See, there is a problem there, because when someone has a bit of drugs, they will want more and more then BOOM, addiction.

Absolutely not. Addiction is a mental thing, but you certainly have the ability to rise above it. It's why not everyone that drinks is an alcoholic, and why people who have tried, say, marijuana once don't necessarily smoke it all day long forever after that.

Yes it is a mental thing, but that does not make my point any less true. I never said you could not rise above it. I do believe in casual smokers, but you can not create a law that will only allow it casually. It will not work unless you monitor their usage like they are a child.

[MARS]

I don't see the point in taking away people's right to live a happy life so long as they're not hurting people/animals.

A death sentence for hurting animals is going a bit too far. People at slaughter houses would be charged with death thousands of times over.

That there is just stupid. Those animals are being killed for food. As cruel as these institutions may be, it's for food, not for enjoyment or out of idiocy.

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[Vendetta]

I don't see the point in taking away people's right to live a happy life so long as they're not hurting people/animals.

A death sentence for hurting animals is going a bit too far. People at slaughter houses would be charged with death thousands of times over.

That there is just stupid. Those animals are being killed for food. As cruel as these institutions may be, it's for food, not for enjoyment or out of idiocy.

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O noes a kitten died, kill that horrible murderer!

[Kerr]

Separation of Church and State: For

Same here.

Marrriage isn't always a religious ceremony. Sometimes it is secular and other times it is part of a certain religion. No Religion has the right to force its own view on others.

[MARS]

O noes a kitten died, kill that horrible murderer!

Now you're being an idiot.

[Vendetta]

I am for gay couples but against gay marriage.

So you see other men/women attractive? Good for you. But why bother getting married?
Marriage is a religious ceremony, and most gays are nonreligious anyway. I see no point. It does not benefit them in any way.
I see gays who want to get married as people who want to show off gay as a status symbol.

It also happens to be the institution through which your love is legally recognised and your partner is granted legal protection and benefits. And what about the same sex couples that are indeed religious? hardly seems fair on them.

I just see no point in it. You can have your gay partner all you want, I don't care, but what makes it any different by getting married?

[Sloady]

I think people are mistaking what I said about taking away people's right to a happy life the wrong way. I meant that no one should have the right to take away other people's rights, not that we should kill people for hurting animals. =/

[Avron the S'wit]

Siiiimmer down everyone.

[MARS]

I am for gay couples but against gay marriage.

So you see other men/women attractive? Good for you. But why bother getting married?
Marriage is a religious ceremony, and most gays are nonreligious anyway. I see no point. It does not benefit them in any way.
I see gays who want to get married as people who want to show off gay as a status symbol.

It also happens to be the institution through which your love is legally recognised and your partner is granted legal protection and benefits. And what about the same sex couples that are indeed religious? hardly seems fair on them.

I just see no point in it. You can have your gay partner all you want, I don't care, but what makes it any different by getting married?

What difference does it make if a straight couple gets married?

[POMC S117]

No other person has the right to force his/hers own views on a religion.

[Frost Mage]

What difference does it make if a straight couple gets married?

Exactly.

[Vendetta]

I know. I am an idiot because I don't think someone should be killed or life sentenced by killing a stupid dog.

[MARS]

No other person has the right to force his/hers own views on a religion.

I fail to see your point. Gay marriage is conducted by the state.

I know. I am an idiot because I don't think someone should be killed or life sentenced by killing a stupid dog.

How about using proper arguments so that people don't think you're an idiot? Believe me, it works.

[The-Shadow-One]

Gay marriage For
Abortion For
Capital Punishment Depends on crime, but For
Usage of crack, heroin etc. Against

Say a guy is a serial murderer, he should be killed, repeat offences of animal cruelty? TO THE BLOCK!
this is just IMHO

[Vendetta]

What difference does it make if a straight couple gets married?

Because, to us, it is a religious ceremony. You say you are not religious but that does not mean that there are no people that are religious.

[Sloady]

YOU GUYS MISUNDERSTAND ME.

What I meant = Nobody has the right to take away someone else's right to be happy unless it's affecting someone else. Examples: Gay Marriage, Drug/Alcohol Use, Gambling, Prostitution (so long as it's safe, which I know is an oxymoron)

What you got = Death sentence for hurting animals.

NOT THE SAME

[Frost Mage]

But if the government and the church are two separate entities, that will never be a good reason to ban it.

[MARS]

What difference does it make if a straight couple gets married?

Because, to us, it is a religious ceremony. You say you are not religious but that does not mean that there are no people that are religious.

@mars
And I am not forcing, I just see no point in it for nonreligious people.

Marriage conducted by the state isn't a religious ceremony.

[POMC S117]

No other person has the right to force his/hers own views on a religion.

I fail to see your point. Gay marriage is conducted by the state.

So that means that a priest won't have to marry two men or two women?

I'm not denying that Cardbird.

No other person has the right to force his/hers own views on a religion.

[Vendetta]

I am talking about it's origin. Was there an America thousands of years ago? I don't think so.

[Avron the S'wit]

I'm a little worried this is a potential problem thread, but I'll let it go for now. Just make sure this thread doesn't turn into an argument. Respect other people's opinions and their right to have them and be mature, everyone.

[MARS]

No other person has the right to force his/hers own views on a religion.

I fail to see your point. Gay marriage is conducted by the state.

So that means that a priest won't have to marry two men or two women?

I don't even understand what you're trying to say here.

[Kerr]

What difference does it make if a straight couple gets married?

Because, to us, it is a religious ceremony. You say you are not religious but that does not mean that there are no people that are religious.

Seperation of state and church. Also what if you are part of a religion that is cool with same sex relationships? Why shouldn't they have the right to this "religious" ceremony?

[Frost Mage]

I am Catholic, but I still fully support gay marriage. Is that wrong? No.

[Arch-Mage Matt]

Just a few decades ago interracial marriage was illegal. Times change.