Oblivion General Discussion

A place to discuss and ask questions about the fourth part of The Elder Scrolls series and its expansions
Post Reply
User avatar
scribbane
Champion
Champion
Posts: 939
Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2008 5:26 am
ES Games: III GOTY, IV GOTY, V-All DLC
Platform: Xbox, PC
Status: Scrib Kill Count: 289
Other Profiles: Xbox-piercem3
UESPoints: 7

Oblivion General Discussion

Post by scribbane »

This thread is for any discussion about Oblivion that doesn't quite fit in anywhere else. Here you can go offtopic as long as it still relates to Oblivion.
BetaB17 wrote: scrib - Chief of Security & not giving a [&@%!]
User avatar
The Tom
Master
Master
Posts: 1080
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:48 pm
ES Games: Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, Online
Platform: PC
Location: UK
Contact:

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by The Tom »

What's with the reinforced doors in Skingrad? When I first played the game, I thought the paranoia quest referred to the whole town and not just Glarthir, but after a while I saw that wasn't true. Is it just cosmetic? Was there some cut feature that didn't quite get fully erased?
"All right people, we created this multi-billion dollar facility under Cheyenne Mountain so that we can use this thing. Anyone know how?"
User avatar
Eltee
Master
Master
Posts: 1153
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:28 pm
ES Games: TES II-III-IV-V
Platform: PC
Status: Elsewhere
Location: Ontario

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by Eltee »

Like the Count goes crazy, infects the whole castle staff, and everyone has to barricade themselves inside?
User avatar
HatofMadness
Champion
Champion
Posts: 855
Joined: Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:23 am
Status: I don't play the radio.

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by HatofMadness »

Im really [&@%!] I traded this game in. Seeing as how I spend most of my internet time on this TES forum, I cant help but be consistantly reminded that of it


There is always something there to remind mee
Image
Breath.....................Compose......................Stare....................What?
User avatar
yodah
Warder
Warder
Posts: 441
Joined: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:54 pm
ES Games: Skyrim, Oblivion
Platform: PS3 (Oblivion, Skyrim) PC (Skyrim)
Status: Irrelevant.
Location: Northeastern USA.

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by yodah »

I've been trying to make a spell that combines a damaging effect with a paralyzing effect to make statues out of the things I kill with it, but haven't had much success. Anybody know which type of damage I should use and which order the effects would go in?
404 ERROR: SANITY NOT FOUND.

Spoiler:
so i herd u liek patapon...
Image
wabbajack wabbajack wabbajack wabbajack
User avatar
Argonanza
Modern Major General
Modern Major General
Posts: 1709
Joined: Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:27 pm
ES Games: Oblivn Goy, Morrwnd, Skrim
Platform: PC
Status: Buying oios or someng retad lie th.
Other Profiles: Steam: The_Nanza
UESPoints: 8
Location: Sedn.

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by Argonanza »

I told you, Hat. I TOLD YOU!
Spiney
Master
Master
Posts: 1498
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:12 am
ES Games: Arena, Daggerfal, Redguard, Morrowind, Oblivion + DLC, Skyrim
Platform: PC, Xbox 360
Status: Laughing like every jokes my last
Location: Laughing at life
Contact:

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by Spiney »

I haven't played the game in ages since I have to unplug a screen because it doesn't work with dual screens. And I can't really bothered to do that. Not with the amount of games I'm playing in the mean time.
Image
Aquatic Beauty
User avatar
HatofMadness
Champion
Champion
Posts: 855
Joined: Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:23 am
Status: I don't play the radio.

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by HatofMadness »

Argonanza wrote:I told you, Hat. I TOLD YOU!
Image
Image
Breath.....................Compose......................Stare....................What?
User avatar
Generalno1
Master
Master
Posts: 1128
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:04 pm
ES Games: Oblivion
Platform: X-box 360(post), PC
Status: tiddly do
Location: I'm the quiet guy nobody notices.

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by Generalno1 »

Skingrad is just generally more regal looking. The guards are the only ones with steel stuff. And the count wouldn't go on a rampage, He's awesome.
I haven't played in a while either.
I'm not arrogant. I'm insecure.
Spoiler:
Made you look
User avatar
Chaos the N'wah
Grand Master
Grand Master
Posts: 1555
Joined: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:25 am
Status: Always lurking
Location: Tenmar Forest

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by Chaos the N'wah »

_yodah_ wrote:I've been trying to make a spell that combines a damaging effect with a paralyzing effect to make statues out of the things I kill with it, but haven't had much success. Anybody know which type of damage I should use and which order the effects would go in?
Are you shooting for a one-shot one-kill scenario?

Because you could always do a weakness to magicka spell first which will increase its damage and Paralyze's duration
  • Example:
    Spell1: Weakness to magic 50%
    Spell2: 50 frost damage over 6 seconds and Paralyze for 6 seconds
    Cast Spell1 then Spell2 and the effect will be...
    75 frost damage over 6 seconds and Paralyze for 9 seconds
User avatar
yodah
Warder
Warder
Posts: 441
Joined: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:54 pm
ES Games: Skyrim, Oblivion
Platform: PS3 (Oblivion, Skyrim) PC (Skyrim)
Status: Irrelevant.
Location: Northeastern USA.

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by yodah »

Chaos the N'wah wrote:
_yodah_ wrote:I've been trying to make a spell that combines a damaging effect with a paralyzing effect to make statues out of the things I kill with it, but haven't had much success. Anybody know which type of damage I should use and which order the effects would go in?
Are you shooting for a one-shot one-kill scenario?

Because you could always do a weakness to magicka spell first which will increase its damage and Paralyze's duration
  • Example:
    Spell1: Weakness to magic 50%
    Spell2: 50 frost damage over 6 seconds and Paralyze for 6 seconds
    Cast Spell1 then Spell2 and the effect will be...
    75 frost damage over 6 seconds and Paralyze for 9 seconds
Thanks, I'll try that. Oh and does it matter which effect of the spell goes first? I read on the wiki that the effects happen in a set order, not all at once.
404 ERROR: SANITY NOT FOUND.

Spoiler:
so i herd u liek patapon...
Image
wabbajack wabbajack wabbajack wabbajack
User avatar
Chaos the N'wah
Grand Master
Grand Master
Posts: 1555
Joined: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:25 am
Status: Always lurking
Location: Tenmar Forest

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by Chaos the N'wah »

Weakness effects only affect the damage of spells cast after weakness has been cast (so combining weakness and damage effects in one spell will require you to cast it again for it to affect the damage).

I suggest looking at these pages for more details: Spell Making~Effective Custom Spells and Weakness to Magic
User avatar
yodah
Warder
Warder
Posts: 441
Joined: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:54 pm
ES Games: Skyrim, Oblivion
Platform: PS3 (Oblivion, Skyrim) PC (Skyrim)
Status: Irrelevant.
Location: Northeastern USA.

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by yodah »

Well, tried a spell like the one Chaos mentioned, and it killed the NPC, but did not make it into a statue when he died....Tried it again on a dog I found, didn't work with that either.

Here's the exact characteristics of the spells:
Spell1: Weakness to magic 100% for 6 seconds.
Spell2: 50 Frost damage over 6 seconds and Paralyze for 4 seconds.

Casting spell2 directly after spell1 has the following results:
100 frost damage over 6 seconds and Paralyze for 8 seconds.

According to the wiki, this should make a statue out of the killed NPC, but they still just flop to the ground.

Anything I'm doing wrong?


EDIT: I just read that apparently the NPC needs to have zero fatigue as well. I will try that...

DOUBLE EDIT: Well, knocking an NPC out with zero fatigue and then trying the above combination did not have the desired effect either... so it must be the spell.
404 ERROR: SANITY NOT FOUND.

Spoiler:
so i herd u liek patapon...
Image
wabbajack wabbajack wabbajack wabbajack
User avatar
MARS
Goatmom/Moderator
Goatmom/Moderator
Posts: 1650
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:58 pm
UESPoints: 88
Location: Where the beats never end
Contact:

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by MARS »

Perhaps you should try this:
Spell1: Weakness to magic 100%
Spell2:Frost Damage 50 pts for 6 secs, Damage Fatigue 150/200 pts and Paralyze for 4 secs.

Having it all in the same spell would likely do the trick. Another thought:
Spell1: Same as above
Spell2: Frost Damage 50 pts for 6 secs, Damage Fatigue 250 pts
Spell3: Paralyze for 6 secs

This way the fatigue will run out before they die. I can't test it right now though, neither did I put much thought into calculating so the values may need adjustment.
Boss makes a dollar
I make a dime
That's why I'm forum posting
On company time
User avatar
yodah
Warder
Warder
Posts: 441
Joined: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:54 pm
ES Games: Skyrim, Oblivion
Platform: PS3 (Oblivion, Skyrim) PC (Skyrim)
Status: Irrelevant.
Location: Northeastern USA.

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by yodah »

Will try that later today, although the last spell costed almost all my magic to cast, so I'm not sure if I'll have enough magic to cast the new one. But I do also have 10 bottles of fortify magicka potion 50 points each, so I think I'm covered.
404 ERROR: SANITY NOT FOUND.

Spoiler:
so i herd u liek patapon...
Image
wabbajack wabbajack wabbajack wabbajack
User avatar
MARS
Goatmom/Moderator
Goatmom/Moderator
Posts: 1650
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:58 pm
UESPoints: 88
Location: Where the beats never end
Contact:

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by MARS »

You could also rapidly consume instant effect restore Magicka potions.
Boss makes a dollar
I make a dime
That's why I'm forum posting
On company time
OblivionDuruza
Grand Master
Grand Master
Posts: 6881
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:44 am
UESPoints: 5

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by OblivionDuruza »

Staff of Indarys or Thornblade? Which did you choose?
User avatar
Trelares
Master
Master
Posts: 1374
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:52 pm
ES Games: Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim
Platform: PC
Status: ...
Location: Vienna, Austria (and no we have no Kangaroos!)

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by Trelares »

The blade as it looks nicer, and I never really was into staffs even then I would use the one you can buy in the Market District. But I used the blade only for decoration as I normally use Goldbrand.
Kinsman, House Hlaalu

RFC 5513
User avatar
Chaos the N'wah
Grand Master
Grand Master
Posts: 1555
Joined: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:25 am
Status: Always lurking
Location: Tenmar Forest

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by Chaos the N'wah »

Thornblade ~ I rarely ever use it though, mostly just a display piece
User avatar
JJKG
Apprentice
Apprentice
Posts: 173
Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:22 pm
ES Games: Skyrim, Oblivion, and a tiny bit of Morrowind
Platform: Xbox 360
Location: Nottingham, England

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by JJKG »

Chose the thornblade - what does the staff do?
Spoiler:
That's right, you're going to die in here!
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face."
Image
OblivionDuruza
Grand Master
Grand Master
Posts: 6881
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:44 am
UESPoints: 5

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by OblivionDuruza »

Oh I know which I'm choosing, I've played many times before.

The Staff damages Strength and has Shock damage, the blade has a Disintegrate Armour effect.

The Staff is far better enchantment-wise, I was just woundering what people choose, as there is a strange stigma around staves and a huge tendency towards blades of any kind :P.
Last edited by OblivionDuruza on Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Samaelthedestroyer
Apprentice
Apprentice
Posts: 177
Joined: Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:00 am
ES Games: Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim
Platform: PC, PS3
Status: Riding space unicorns

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by Samaelthedestroyer »

I find staves are generally bad for mages, and are actually better for warriors. for a mage, who already have plenty of spells, a staff just fills up his inventory. A dagger with a weakness enchant is better for a mage. For a warrior with their high strength a staff is another weapon in your arsenal.
The sad truth is, kids today will never know why pikachu is never inside a pokeball.
User avatar
Arch-Mage Matt
Master
Master
Posts: 1498
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:37 am
ES Games: Oblivion, Morrowind, Daggerfall
Platform: PC, Xbox
Status: having someone read my status
Location: The Tops Casino
Contact:

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by Arch-Mage Matt »

Oblivion lags and crashes and glitches up every few minutes. Yet I still play it. :x
Image
Ring-a-ding, baby.
Hi! I am a UESPF Moderator and you can PM me with any concerns you have, no matter how trivial. You can also use the report button - a feature that draws attention to a certain post and allows us to offer our own input.
OblivionDuruza
Grand Master
Grand Master
Posts: 6881
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:44 am
UESPoints: 5

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by OblivionDuruza »

Shivering Isles (PC) just arrived in the mail today! Yay for me :mrgreen:!

Should be fun to revisit the Isles, although I have played SI on PS3, but I think I'm more of a PC guy.
User avatar
JJKG
Apprentice
Apprentice
Posts: 173
Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:22 pm
ES Games: Skyrim, Oblivion, and a tiny bit of Morrowind
Platform: Xbox 360
Location: Nottingham, England

Re: Oblivion General Discussion

Post by JJKG »

I didn't particularly like the shivering isles, I mean, it was ok, and the storyline was nice enough, but it seemed not to be as exciting as I thought it would be. Although I didn't explore it much.

Elytra give me the creeps :?
Spoiler:
That's right, you're going to die in here!
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face."
Image
Post Reply