How do you play on very hard?

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How do you play on very hard?

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Well?

how do you play on very hard?

do you have epic fight to the death with rats?
or are you smart and get alchemy to poison everything in sight?

try to give an example if you can


I tend to use enemas against them selfs, have mages atack

I also love traps in Forts

I don't really like summoning but I admit it gets the job doen
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Re: How do you play on very hard?

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I usually don't play on the hardest difficulty. But when I do, I will either swing like a madman, or use carefully placed hits followed by a backing up to avoid their attacks.
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John117 wrote:I usually don't play on the hardest difficulty. But when I do, I will either swing like a madman, or use carefully placed hits followed by a backing up to avoid their attacks.
swinging like a mad man almost never helps for me lol
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Re: How do you play on very hard?

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"How do you play on very hard?"

You don't. :lol:

Swinging like a madman WILL get you killed. You gotta think when to block and when to attack, or bang-bang-bang stumble-heaven.
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Giordano wrote:"How do you play on very hard?"

You don't. :lol:

Swinging like a madman WILL get you killed. You gotta think when to block and when to attack, or bang-bang-bang stumble-heaven.
stumble really?
I never gett he chance
its usealy one. two. thee. dead

:D
which makes me use the environment and a bow a lot
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Re: How do you play on very hard?

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This page of the wiki has alot of information...
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:The_H ... tegy_Guide
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Manny wrote:This page of the wiki has alot of information...
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:The_H ... tegy_Guide
thanks but I was asking for a more of what every one dose
not advice on what to do
how ever that is a very good link
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Re: How do you play on very hard?

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Everytime i move the difficulty slider from the middle towards the right i get killed. I dont even need to reach maximum difficulty.But i dont care what difficulty i play on, as long as i have fun :mrgreen: .
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you really have to be careful with combat and jump in/strike/jump out before they can land a hit

I never use magic on this difficulty except to heal or buff, and always make sure i have several spare weapons, poisons and potions since once in combat you might be there for a while. This means you have to really prepare between fights

the biggest thing i've ever killed on very hard is an ogre when i was 7th level. Took me a loong time
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An ogre :shock:
I was having big trouble with rats and mudcrabs :oops:
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deadknight wrote:An ogre :shock:
I was having big trouble with rats and mudcrabs :oops:
it was an extremely long fight and by the end of it every bit of armour and hitting apparatus i had was blunt or broken. I was able to run round an altar and keep it out of range , and swing across every now and then. Every hit it did knocked well over half my health off and i must have gained nearly a levels worth in increased skills lol
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I played on hardest setting with no weapons or armor. But I was a conjurer, so it wasn't too bad. You just have to be sure to NOT get hit by anything. Your minion can handle the offense. It's a fun challenge.
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Yeah, and try not to get surrounded by creatures as your death is sealed.
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Me: *sneak attack with poisoned and enchanted bow*
enemy: *runs toward attacker*
Me: *summon gloom wraith* *chameleon on self* *sneak attack with poisoned and enchanted war axe*
enemy: *gets annihilated by me and my wraith, dies*
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You don't. It's ridiculously hard. But if you must, use conjuration. Summoned monsters aren't affected by the damage modifier and do full damage.
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mars wrote:You don't. It's ridiculously hard. But if you must, use conjuration. Summoned monsters aren't affected by the damage modifier and do full damage.
i think that's the problem with very hard difficulty, you sort of reduce your character to a creature in the game that watches other creatures battle it out lol
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I tried today with one of my old characters using methods that you guys wrote here....i tried with an archer-mage....and its more fun...and challenging....but of course i died a lot. Still trying.....

P.S. Thanks for sharing the tips :mrgreen:
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I play... Hell, 100% chameleon is the way to go!
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hmm ,yeah that's a way too, or 100% reflect damage and 100% resist magic.
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This is great, out of pure suicide wanting a challenge
is it possible to be by your self as a non magic user?

and doing it by your self?
I mean has any one done it\ or did okay attempting
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As a non-magic user? I used to think so, but then I tried it.

Hell, I couldn't even get out of the tutorial dungeon without magic. I got massacred by rats! Then, once I (finally) got out of the sewers, I got owned by everything else. Slaughterfish? Forget about it! Goblins? You're kidding, right? I was running from mudcrabs, man. Don't even get me started on tough opponents.

On hardest difficulty, I seriously doubt anyone could actually play (do the quests, fight the creatures, etc.) the entire game as a pure melee solo character and without magic of any kind. I know I couldn't. Plus, it would be sooo tedious!

My hardest level character now sits at level 30, but ONLY because of magic!
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So I started playing today as a Orc named hulk (yeah dont say it)

I'm now at Kavatch's gate
And manged to kill a few stunted scamps by my self


I've killed
mudcrabs
Bandits
goblins
Scamps
counjour

I'm Lv 2
a custom class
I believe I can beat the main quest with out magic

Wish me luck :D
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Luck... Can I loot your stuff when Mehrunes Dagon squishes you like a bug? I mean... if...
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LtGt72 wrote:Luck... Can I loot your stuff when Mehrunes Dagon squishes you like a bug? I mean... if...
Ha. Ha. Ha
I'm at cloud ruler temple trying to find the spies right now
I don't think thats luck
its a miracle hard work and knowing when to dodge :D

I killed some mythic dawns guys!
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For those who want to know I have just complted the main quest with out magic (a heck of a lot of potions how ever)

also I'm prtey sure once you past lv 5 you need to efficient level to have a hope of wining
at lv 5 i could beat some enemeys but it was so freaking hard


and of course most of the MQ line has allys which i was kind of bumbed about


so it IS possable just not worth it unless you need to do 100% of everything


hardist quests in the MQ line is


The gods god's blood quest

the undead blades can take up to 30 miunits to kill not counting all the ghost that you may or may not kill

Aid for bumma
sure its optional but with out it martin will almost laways die or so it seems


then the artifact (i picked the Star)
was freaking hard with the vampires. died so many times, but manged to let the mage hit a few of them one to many times
plus the oblivion gate had a scamp follow me


i was an orc I had an attack of 10 for some weapons and it was like hting them with a dagger
how ever i did find out as an orc with high enough endurance a good amour can increase your hits to survive by as much as 5 hits!

also I found ways to beat certain enmeys quite easy
except clanfers, never could kill one
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