...Which is fun, within the context of a RP! Maybe Zudeel and the party will come into conflict, at some point.
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Ah, so he's a sociopath
Or that's my take, anyway. As...calm and cold as one might be, killing is not something regularly functioning people can do without remorse or hesitation. Hardened soldiers, people you would never expect to be vulnerable, suffer from PTSD. The lack of emotions, inability to form relationships, and willingness and readiness to kill, along with a lack of remorse, are all signs of sociopathy.
...Which is fun, within the context of a RP! Maybe Zudeel and the party will come into conflict, at some point.
...Which is fun, within the context of a RP! Maybe Zudeel and the party will come into conflict, at some point.
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I didn't really intend for him to be a sociopath, but on further reflection, Zudeel might be one (or a borderline case). The people I know he ever really cared for are his parents and his battlemage mentor (probably more. Don't know), and they're all dead. Everyone else seemed to be friends or allies at most. Still, he does not enjoy torturing, abusing, or killing people for lulz really (except slavers). Or manipulating them. And he does seem to have faint morals. Still, I'm unsure whether to label him as a sociopath.
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Nammu begs to differ.. then again.. Nammu can't be called normal eitherBaloth-Kul wrote:As...calm and cold as one might be, killing is not something regularly functioning people can do without remorse or hesitation.
A hollow heart leaves a hollow soul
I could always try and word out Nammu's own stance on morals.. but that may touch up on some spoilers.. Plus, I don't think most folk would like being listed from least to most expendable. As one could say "The ends always justify the means" He's a saint
Speakin of, and mildly unrelated... I always wondered, in the RP as a whole, how informative it would be to have some manner of revealing someone's inner/true self(much like Green-Saps Orrey).. whether that be as a visual representation, or a color hue for their morality(i.e good/evil/ect) or just how dangerous/a threat an individual poses. I mean, any of those would certainly make Darkscale seem more welcoming
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I wouldn't go so far as to call Zudeel a sociopath. That word is thrown about quite a lot but it's quite a serious thing to call somebody / to be categorized as.
TVTropes defines a sociopath (and I adore their definition) as the following (beware; huge);
I wouldn't call Zudeel a sociopath. He's true neutral and emotionally distant, maybe even a sort of antihero, but he's certainly not sociopathic IMO.
TVTropes defines a sociopath (and I adore their definition) as the following (beware; huge);
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Viktor Cheng (the character I'm playing in KT) is actually a sociopath, diagnosed as well. He fits all the criteria. That's not why he's awful, like not everyone who could be labeled a sociopath is a terrible person despite what media might lead you to believe, even the above thing from TV Tropes says as a much.
But Viktor is completely amoral.
But Viktor is completely amoral.
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Just noticed this now. I've pretty much liked all of the NPCs you've made. I don't think I've disliked any at all (well, aside from Jarl Valdimar who is meant to be dislikedUnionhack wrote:TA2: So now that Act 2 is over, I feel it right to open up discussion on the NPCs y'all have encountered just so I can get feedback and ideas for future NPCs. Thoughts? Who was your favorite? Least favorite? Stuff like that.
Anyway, I'd definitely say that Zudeel is not a sociopath: he doesn't like slavery, he makes friends and genuinely cares for them, and he doesn't fit a lot of the other stuff (I also go by TV Tropes' description). I'd say Arellius is definitely the best example of a sociopath in the RP so far: he fits pretty much every detail listed there.

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Quick question, since we are on the scene. What official ranks do Grelok and Roran hold in the Guild?
I get it that Roran is their muscle, and Grelok was trusted enough to deal with business negotiations with the pirates..
I get it that Roran is their muscle, and Grelok was trusted enough to deal with business negotiations with the pirates..
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I haven't decided on rank titles, structure and stuff like that so it's vague for now on the official levels. When I get that worked out I'll ask Baloth and VW what they want Grelok and Roran to be.
Grelok is an "Agent" and Roran is an "Enforcer", basically. That's what I'd call them, anyhow.
Grelok is an "Agent" and Roran is an "Enforcer", basically. That's what I'd call them, anyhow.
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I would say that Darkscale is probably the PC that is very close to being a sociopath but that would be pushing it. He merely doesn't give a damn about the morals of killing a man, or woman. He'll kill the emperor if he recieved the correct amount of coin. Hell, he'll kill the franchise if he could then proceed to kill every other franchise if the coin was correct.
I am really enjoying writing him as it forces me to think outside the box and so far, it's working. Sure, he may be a Jaqen H'hgar inspired character and sure, some may say he is a rip off but he is interesting and well, he should get along with those who aren't fools.
Naturally, he won't get along with the nobles who believe in charging against the darkness.
I am really enjoying writing him as it forces me to think outside the box and so far, it's working. Sure, he may be a Jaqen H'hgar inspired character and sure, some may say he is a rip off but he is interesting and well, he should get along with those who aren't fools.
Naturally, he won't get along with the nobles who believe in charging against the darkness.
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So Grelok is now a Shadowfoot.. which effectively means he was formely the skyrim equivalent to a cat burglar. Does this means he's now one of their elite, or is his black leather proof he was already in their inner circle.. like the guild captains, executive members, n Nightingales
Wait... that means he's official a higher rank than the Stranger. Bravo, bravo
Wait... that means he's official a higher rank than the Stranger. Bravo, bravo
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The ranks for the "agent" tree of the TA2 Thieves guild are as follows;
>Pickpocket
>Footpad
>Burglar
>Prowler
>Cat Burglar
>Shadowfoot
>Captain
>Doyen
>Underboss(es)
>Guild Master
Grelok is not quite leadership; he's now just at the top of the line of the Agents of the Guild, trusted with big operations and heists and stuff.
Seemed fitting, and Roran will be of similar rank if VW so wishes.
>Pickpocket
>Footpad
>Burglar
>Prowler
>Cat Burglar
>Shadowfoot
>Captain
>Doyen
>Underboss(es)
>Guild Master
Grelok is not quite leadership; he's now just at the top of the line of the Agents of the Guild, trusted with big operations and heists and stuff.
Seemed fitting, and Roran will be of similar rank if VW so wishes.
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Still a higher rank than ole Stranger
technically, that means Grelok outrans the Gray Fox
Still, both are scrubs to miss uber mage. Long live the uber!
Still, both are scrubs to miss uber mage. Long live the uber!
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Don't worry, I didn't have her survive for no reason.
Her name is Vayniah bt-dubs.
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C&G: So it's going to take me a while to get a good feel for Rin's choice of dialogue, namely the speech pattern.
Its been so long, and I've done better since(looks at Nora), but I do very much know the general word choice >_> namely around the lines of british slang, manners, and even stereotypical habits of the time. Unfortunately, all of those I have far more limited experience with than some users here
At least on the bright side, Mausier wont have any actual dialogue, so that just gives me more focus to Rin and her comedic rants
Its been so long, and I've done better since(looks at Nora), but I do very much know the general word choice >_> namely around the lines of british slang, manners, and even stereotypical habits of the time. Unfortunately, all of those I have far more limited experience with than some users here
At least on the bright side, Mausier wont have any actual dialogue, so that just gives me more focus to Rin and her comedic rants
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C&G: I can imagine a young Nora being very similar to Rin. She's no messin', fiesty and cheeky.
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Nah, Rin is just all over the place, no restraints and no cares.
Nora was just some tomboy who dreamed of heroic deeds.. Rin just dreams of more sweets... Both are indeed, in youth and age, no messin', fiesty, and cheeky as can be
They are similar now that I look at it, n hell.. from this point on there will be doubless comparisons.. Oh by the nine.. could you imagine if they be sisters O.o
They are similar now that I look at it, n hell.. from this point on there will be doubless comparisons.. Oh by the nine.. could you imagine if they be sisters O.o
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DID SOMEONE SAY CHARACTER THEMES CAUSE HOO BOY LEMME TELL YA WHAT I SURE DO DOES LOVES THEMS THERE CHARACTER THEME DISCUSSIONS HOO HEE YUPRook wrote:C&G: <3
While I'm posting Dungeon Master's Cut editions of my posts, this was the top contender for the Masked Man's theme, but I thought it might be a bit jarring.
Here's Alistair's.
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I ought to keep an ear out for any themes for Rin. At least Mausier should be easy, nice n military like
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I gotcha. One Mausier theme, coming right up.
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I mean, if it wasn't terribly out of place, the real world song Katyusha would totally be his jam. Idk, just the bitter cold and Russian militray songs seem to just pair up. Tho frankly, I'm not all too in a fret to find him a theme. He's a former soldier, its not hard to find a fitting theme for that sort
Rin on the otherhand.. random, cheerful, fun. Also, found this for anybody interested. Fits the era
Rin on the otherhand.. random, cheerful, fun.
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I can't think of a theme for Dick regarding KT.
Or for Elisa in D&D.
Damn my crap data cap. Could spend hours listening to songs to find themes for them.
Or for Elisa in D&D.
Damn my crap data cap. Could spend hours listening to songs to find themes for them.
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C&G: I know it's still early days, but I'm really liking all the characters in cog n gear. There's a good mix. Alistair and Cornelia are a good bandit team. Rin has a gob on her, but she is vulnerable and sweet, and even though Mausier is silent, he has 'them feels'.
Holman has been quiet so far, but I think his sleuthing abilities, calmness, and keen eye are going to be valuable later.
Morgan seems sneaky and likes to pry to get info.
Monad and Victoria have kept themselves more secretive thus far, but I reckon Monad will be an interesting one, with his Trickster beliefs, and Victoria may very well get herself in trouble with her magic.
Holman has been quiet so far, but I think his sleuthing abilities, calmness, and keen eye are going to be valuable later.
Morgan seems sneaky and likes to pry to get info.
Monad and Victoria have kept themselves more secretive thus far, but I reckon Monad will be an interesting one, with his Trickster beliefs, and Victoria may very well get herself in trouble with her magic.
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C&G: Or do a Gandalf if Rook is cruel enough to throw in a random Balrog.
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LolMausier.. he as 'them feels'
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