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OH NOES ZOMBAYS! Time to get meh gun, get it some ammuh, and go zombay hunting down in Florida!

No, seriously, they shot someone who was eating someone, clearly unarmed...They couldn't have both tackled him, handcuffed him, and made him ride naked in the back of the police car? Clearly gun happy officers who should've never received their badges. There were hundreds of ways that situation could've been handled better.
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The way I see it, this guy could have either lived the rest of his screwy life in a mental hospital, costing the government hundreds of thousands of dollars when all is said and done, or the police could use a couple of twenty cent bullets and solve the problem right there. There's an obvious answer here, I'm sure of it.
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Of course helping the man is out of the question.

Let me get this straight:

You know nothing about the man that was shot besides the crime he commited. You have no idea what drove him to do it, no idea who he is, why he is why he is, if he is mentally ill or not...nothing. So just killing him is okay.

Yeah, OK.

While I don't blame the officer for doing what he did, he shouldn't have done it.
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he was armed to the teeth (get it?) with body fluids possibly contaminated and tainted with a zombie-inducing virus. if a zombie growls at you and continues eating someone's face, you have an ethical duty and moral obligation to double-tap both zombie and zombie-victim in teh HEAD to control and prevent the spread of infection!

Rule #2 DOUBLE TAP!
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Moving away from the incident itself, to cannibalism.

Society hates it because "It's wrong." and says this for a number of reasons:

1) a lot of people would be uneasy about eating the flesh of one of their own kind.
2) Religious beliefs.

Now that's all good and well. But is that reason enough to be outlawed? I say no for the same reason I think that other things certain social groups stand against should be allowed:

As long as it hurts no other party and everything is arranged and done by willing parties, then no one has the right to impose their own view on them. So if say, someone were comfortable with being eaten after their death, cannibals should be allowed to eat that body.
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I feel about the same way about cannibalism as I do about prostitution; sure, it doesn't hurt anyone, but it does lead to the degeneration of society in general.
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I fail to see how. Prostitutes and cannibals are lesser humans?
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No, that's not what I'm saying. But if you make either of those two issues legal, can you really pass judgment over more prevalent crimes, like murder? I really don't think so. You have to draw the line somewhere, and I draw it at cannibalism.
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And this is where you don't understand. Murder is a crime because it is non-conesntual. Consensual cannibalism should not be a crime. Consensual anything shouldn't be illegal.
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again, this does NOT constitute cannibalism, and cannibalism is murder. all this has already been addressed and pointed out. why can't people grasp basic facts?
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I would be slightly more tolerant of cannibalism if the practitioners in question limited themselves to those who are odd enough to provide consent. But that's not going to happen.

Cannibalism in general is ethically odorous and does not have a place in today's society.
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Gideon Dragontongue wrote:I would be slightly more tolerant of cannibalism if the practitioners in question limited themselves to those who are odd enough to provide consent. But that's not going to happen.
Of course they would be supervised, and transgressions should be punished. But you can't just say "That's not going to happen." How do you know? You don't.
Ragnarok wrote:again, this does NOT constitute cannibalism, and cannibalism is murder. all this has already been addressed and pointed out. why can't people grasp basic facts?
The only one saying that cannibalism is murder is you. And you're wrong. Cannibalism is the consumption of flesh that originates from the same species as the consumer. This does not necessarily involve killing.
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Dont yall know? This is what we do in FL...Duh?
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Ask yourself if you really want people who want to eat their own species to reside within our society. If that's fine with you, then you and your cannibals are welcome to find a private island where you can devour each other in harmony.
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Cannibalism opens way too many other doors that should never, ever be opened. Nope, it's just fine being illegal. We don't allow, by law, anyone to beat the living crap out of each other (outside of relatively controlled environments), nor do we allow well-trained medical professionals to help patients kill themselves, and there are a TON of reasons for both of those illegalities.
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I'm not saying things should just be changed from one day to the next. It would be a slow moving effort to change society. I mean, it's not even cannibalism itself I care about. I've never thought about it until now. My real gripe is that today's society while "modern" was built on the back of an extremely unagreeable and outdated society.
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That I do agree with, Mars. Cannibalism, much less so.
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Mars wrote:
Ragnarok wrote:again, this does NOT constitute cannibalism, and cannibalism is murder. all this has already been addressed and pointed out. why can't people grasp basic facts?
The only one saying that cannibalism is murder is you. And you're wrong.
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Wikipedia says:
Cannibalism (from Caníbales, the Spanish name for the Carib people, a West Indies tribe formerly well known for their practice of cannibalism) is the act or practice of humans eating the flesh of other human beings.
The online dictionary says:
can·ni·bal (kn-bl)
n.
1. A person who eats the flesh of other humans.
Nowhere is murder mentioned.

Necrophagy as a word does exist, but it simply means the same. It's Greek and stands for "Eating the dead".
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Mars wrote:Necrophagy as a word does exist, but it simply means the same. It's Greek and stands for "Eating the dead".
key word "DEAD" ...
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It doesn't matter. Cannibalism is the practice of eating other humans, living or dead.
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According to my source, the Police think that cocaine psychosis sounds more reasonable than zombieism.
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the Savage Hippie wrote:According to my source, the Police think that cocaine psychosis sounds more reasonable than zombieism.
DOUBLE TAP fixes everything that ails ZOMBIES, including "cocaine psychosis" ...

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uh, oh. small problem there hippie ...

according to your source ...

"But residents of Miami can rest easy in the knowledge that the police are prepared to nip any zombie outbreaks in the bud."

did they put down the one that got their face eaten? no? then this is only the beginning ...

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so is "cocaine psychosis" akin to "reefer madness"?
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In my opinion, the officer did the right thing.

A lot of people like to claim he was gun-happy, but come on. He was dealing with a guy that was likely so doped up that he didn't have any control over his own actions. The officer warned him away several times before he fired, the suspect didn't listen and growled at the officer.

Do any of you have any idea how hard it would have been to take down a guy so doped up he feels no pain? A guy that's so out of it he can pull every muscle and break every bone in his body and not realize it? If you think about it, there was no zombie virus involved, but there was definitely a zombie there. The officer could very well claim that he felt his life was in danger, and I sure as hell wouldn't argue it. His reaction is entirely justified.
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