ilumanati controls the govement

[Frost Mage]

Okay, showing from the topic of this thread, I really don't give two [&@%!] whether you guys believe in this or not. There are many fallacies in these conspiracies, but, I believe, that much truth can be found from some research I have been doing. Once again, you will, no doubt, call me crazy, but please, try to keep the flaming to a minimum, I'm just posting a few links that will let you in on the concept, not what you may have heard. First of all, the Illuminati, which is actually a very broad term, is used to describe the organization, a Bavarian secret-society founded in 1776, has grown into what some believe is still an active, evil group, which is pulling the world's society into a halt, a sort of Martial Law, in which microchips will be used to track everything under the sun, including the economy.

Unbiasedness aside, I do believe in this, and I do thoroughly enjoy learning more about it. In fact, as a whole, I think I have become more aware of my surroundings, and what I have made public, whether any of this is true or not. Now, I'm inclined to disagree with the statement that the Nephilims, or human and demon offsprings, will come down to Earth on December 20th of this year and act as gods, manipulating the people into doing just what is needed for God to... well now I'm getting into religion, which I have a sort of agnostic feel to, but like I have said in the past, I'm open to anything and everything... except Leprechauns.

I am neither confirming nor denying any of these opinions that I have read about, and this isn't just for non-argumentative reasons, I sincerely don't know what to believe in at this point.

When it comes down to it, I'm a 13 year old, and I find this crap interesting. Please, no flaming, I took a while to write this post and gather a few useful links, please, be mature, and think before you post.

Links:
This is pretty good, and sticks to one subject.
Now THIS is cool. Would also make more sense to the people who are inclined to not believe in it.
My favorite website, for the lulz of course.

All of this most likely will sound crazy to you guys, but right now, I just want to set the record straight, and not have little pieces of conspiracies in your head that you remembered from last time, and I just wanted to give you guys a little update, no matter how stupid this all sounds.


TL;DR I don't trust the government, I don't trust the school system.

[Archea47]

Guys just play the first Deus Ex - all you need to know about the illuminati

Bob Page: "Bunch of pretentious old men playing at running the world"

John Lash of metahistory.org in his book Not in His Image suggests that the Illuminati are an ancient offshoot of pre-Christian Mystery Schools that felt their intellectual and spiritual attainment would best be used to manipulate society as they judged best. I don't think he has any sources to back up that claim/idea

When I think of the illuminati, I think of the League of Robots from Futurama. An entitled boys' club that hasn't actually killed a human in hundreds of years

[Arch-Mage Matt]

Guys just read Angels and Demons - all you need to know about the illuminati

Fixed that for you.

[AKB]

Is this thread really going to be repeated again??? FFS.

[Eltee]

Oh, good god.

[Dark Lord Cam]

I am of the feeling that if you truly believed these theories, you wouldn't enjoy learning about them. You'd be crapping your pants and trying to hide.

[Frost Mage]

I am of the feeling that if you truly believed these theories, you wouldn't enjoy learning about them. You'd be crapping your pants and trying to hide.

Like I said, I don't believe in them, at least most of them. I just find it interesting. But I agree with you, most of this is bullsh*t, so don't call me insane... yet.

[Dark Lord Cam]

So if you don't actually believe, am I led to believe that the point of this thread is to just talk about how crazy the theories are? If that's the case then you should change the OP to make that clearer.

[Will Zurmacht]

I'm a 13 year old

*blink* *blink* *blink* *blink*

At 13 I was riding my bike around in circles out in the street or trying to figure out how to beat my friend at Street Fighter vs X-Men at the arcade, not contemplating world banking and global political power structures.

Besides, the Illuminati is just a cat's paw for the Knights Templar, who really run everything. For more on that see Assassin's Creed 2.

[Frost Mage]

I'm not calling them crazy, I'm saying they're interesting ideas, which I believe may have some truth in them, simple as that. The point of this thread is, I feel like in the past I've been pushy and disrespectful to people, and I just wanted to start over. If you feel like this needs to be locked, then lock it, but I am in no way trying to win you guys over, or preach to you.

[AKB]

I think I'm going to write an actual reply to this, not that it will do any good. All I'm seeing are a bunch of buzz words like "martial law" "microchips" "secret organizations". Pardon me for not checking any of your links, the last time I clicked on anything like those I got a virus, and since you include Fox News with them (even if it was just for the lolz), I assume they're of a similar or lower quality. Martial law is a very common occurrence. It's not like it's some evil thing, it's just something a government does to keep people from getting hurt. I've been under martial law, during a major disaster. All that it really did was close down local businesses and made you stay inside after a certain time. Not really that evil. I'm just going to assume that whatever this theory is going on about, it doesn't actually know what martial law is.

Secondly, microchips kind of already track everything, especially the economy. Why would you be afraid of them? They're just a tool.

Also, what in the seven hells does an organization founded in 1776 in a Germanic state have to do with anything??? Even if such an organization existed and still existed, it's not like its members are immortal. It wouldn't be the same organization that it was then that it is today. And just because some people believe it's evil due to its history or whatever, even if it exists, doesn't mean that it is. That's like saying that Volkswagen is controlled by Nazis due to the companies history.

Actually, if this is just to discuss conspiracy theories in general, can I just post Time Cube and call it a day?

[Frost Mage]

I think I'm going to write an actual reply to this, not that it will do any good. All I'm seeing are a bunch of buzz words like "martial law" "microchips" "secret organizations". Pardon me for not checking any of your links, the last time I clicked on anything like those I got a virus, and since you include Fox News with them (even if it was just for the lolz), I assume they're of a similar or lower quality. Martial law is a very common occurrence. It's not like it's some evil thing, it's just something a government does to keep people from getting hurt. I've been under martial law, during a major disaster. All that it really did was close down local businesses and made you stay inside after a certain time. Not really that evil. I'm just going to assume that whatever this theory is going on about, it doesn't actually know what martial law is.

Secondly, microchips kind of already track everything, especially the economy. Why would you be afraid of them? They're just a tool.

Also, what in the seven hells does an organization founded in 1776 in a Germanic state have to do with anything??? Even if such an organization existed and still existed, it's not like its members are immortal. It wouldn't be the same organization that it was then that it is today. And just because some people believe it's evil due to its history or whatever, even if it exists, doesn't mean that it is. That's like saying that Volkswagen is controlled by Nazis due to the companies history.

Actually, if this is just to discuss conspiracy theories in general, can I just post Time Cube and call it a day?

I agree with all of that, besides your reply to the microchips. The theory is they'll be inserted into everyone, as a measure of security, but that's pretty far fetched, even for me. I appreciate your serious reply, something I haven't gotten for a long time, and some would say for good reason.

[AKB]

So, it doesn't have anything to do with microchips and is just about being tracked? Unless you seriously live off the grid, most people already regularly release the needed information to have themselves tracked through social media. Besides, do you have any idea how inconceivably difficult it would be to track an entire population, at all times? The necessary resources for such a project are just mind boggling, and the benefits would be negligible considering how ridiculously easy it would be to defeat.

Also, Time Cube.

Earth has 4 corner simultaneous 4-day TIME CUBE In only 24 hour rotation. 4 corner days, cubes 4 quad earth - no 1 day god.

Refute.

[MARS]

@Frosty: Microchips. Why exactly is that far fetched? 20 years ago computer scientists said that a disc holding more than 50 MB of data was far fetched and impossible. *pats 1 Terrabyte hard drive*

[AKB]

I'm not saying that microchips are ridiculous. Microchips have been successfully been implemented in humans for multiple purposes in the past, that's not weird. Though it's not an exact art yet (rather high chance of complications and cancer). I'm saying that the concept of implanting them into people to track them is ridiculous and requires future tech.

[MARS]

I was responding to Frosty. Sorry, I should clarify that in the post.

[Frost Mage]

Just like AKB said, it's not the microchips, it's the concept that everyone in the world would be chipped, and that all of their banking, living, business, and overall status would be tracked on the chip. Now, don't go saying, "This would be a great advance for science!" no, it would be hell. The second you refuse to accept the chip, they can, and will, could off all ties with you, and in turn, make you bankrupt, homeless, and starve to death. (Kind of like Marsi...)

[MARS]

And as AKB said, your entire life is already being tracked. If you do something, the authorities know about it. The only thing the microchips would do would be to aid the authorities. The authorities already can do all the things you listed. Nothing will change with the microchips.

[Frost Mage]

And as AKB said, your entire life is already being tracked. If you do something, the authorities know about it. The only thing the microchips would do would be to aid the authorities.

Exactly. Let's say this is all true, would big corporations want to monitor ever social-networking site you visit, just to find 1% of information that is of any relevance to them? One could say we're all part of "The Beast" already, but this would make it far easier, and safer, to manipulate people's actions.

The more I hear about American politics, the more I feel like I'm living in North Korea.

[MARS]

You see evil where there is none. All this can already happen. However it doesn't. Take a guess why.

[Dark Lord Cam]

Haha. Just, haha.

North Korea? It's not comparable. Tell me, are you on the verge of dying from starvation? Is your belly so swollen you can't even move? Are there soldiers ready to gun you down if you say even the tiniest thing about the government? Is there still gas to drive? Can you go anywhere you like without being randomly stopped by soldiers with assault rifles? Do you have Internet? Do you have access to whatever books you want to read? Can you make fun of the president without anyone caring? Do you live in North Korea?

[Frost Mage]

Haha. Just, haha.

North Korea? It's not comparable. Tell me, are you on the verge of dying from starvation? Is your belly so swollen you can't even move? Are there soldiers ready to gun you down if you say even the tiniest thing about the government? Is there still gas to drive? Can you go anywhere you like without being randomly stopped by soldiers with assault rifles? Do you have Internet? Do you have access to whatever books you want to read? Can you make fun of the president without anyone caring? Do you live in North Korea?

I'm talking about what could be the future, but that's not going to happen.

[AKB]

Why make the comparison if you don't believe that it's an accurate comparison and that it could never happen?

[MARS]

You used the present tense. And didn't reply to my post.

[Dark Lord Cam]

Frosty, if you start speculating on the future, you will soon realize that ANYTHING can happen.