Bethesda Patch Discussion - Console and PC

[AddictedtoMorrowind]

Oh man. That would be unlucky.

[Gideon Dragontongue]

Sooo..... Who's heard about the nasty new bug with the awesome new kill-cam patch? All CK modders are advised not to download the 1.5.24 patch because of a change to the record files that causes major errors and can corrupt your plug-ins. Niiiiiiiiiiiiice, Bethie.

[Redguard_Master]

I hope they fix the whole library of completed quests I still have in my journal and my broken word walls.

[Spiney]

Sooo..... Who's heard about the nasty new bug with the awesome new kill-cam patch? All CK modders are advised not to download the 1.5.24 patch because of a change to the record files that causes major errors and can corrupt your plug-ins. Niiiiiiiiiiiiice, Bethie.

Like the CK wasn't buggy to the point of uselessness beforehand.

[Iamgoofball]

Good for us Console users, we don't get the beta!

[Frost Mage]

Good for us Console users, we don't get the beta!

If you really didn't want to get the beta, you don't have to download it.

[Iamgoofball]

We don't even get the option to download it.

[Frost Mage]

We don't even get the option to download it.

Because what Bethy will be releasing on consoles and PC will be the full, bug-tested version, not a hastily put together Beta.

[Jeff]

I just had a 224Mb download for Skyrim... but no news on if it was update 1.5.

EDIT: (from bethblog twitter) Skyrim 1.5 update is now on Steam. For those on 360 and PS3, we're submitting the update to consoles this week.

http://www.bethblog.com/2012/03/20/skyr ... -on-steam/

Spoiler:

UPDATE 1.5 (all platforms unless noted)

NEW FEATURES
•New cinematic kill cameras for projectile weapons and spells
•New kill moves and animations for melee weapons
•Shadows on grass available (PC)
•Smithing skill increases now factor in the created item’s value
•Improved visual transition when going underwater
•Improved distance LOD transition for snowy landscapes

BUG FIXES
•General crash fixes and memory optimizations
•Fixed issue with Deflect Arrows perk not calculating properly
•In “A Cornered Rat,” the death of certain NPCs no longer blocks progression
•Fixed issue where Farkas would not give Companion’s quests properly
•Fixed crash when loading saves that rely on data that is no longer being loaded
•Followers sneak properly when player is sneaking
•Fixed issue with weapon racks not working properly in Proudspire Manor
•Arrows and other projectiles that were stuck in objects in the world now clean up properly
•Fixed issue where “Rescue Mission” was preventing “Taking Care of Business” from starting properly
•Fixed issue where certain NPCs would fail to become Thieves Guild fences
•Fixed issue in “Diplomatic Immunity” where killing all the guards in the Thalmor Embassy before starting the quest would break progress
•In “Hard Answers,” picking up the dwarven museum key after completing the quest, no longer restarts the quest
•Killing Viola before or after “Blood on the Ice” no longer blocks progression
•Fixed issue where Calixto would fail to die properly in “Blood on the Ice”
•In “Waking Nightmare” fixed occasional issue where Erandur would stop pathing properly
•Fixed issue where letters and notes with random encounters would appear blank
•Fixed rare issue where dialogue and shouts would improperly play
•Lydia will now offer marriage option after player purchases Breezehome in Whiterun
•Fixed issue where if player manually mined ore in Cidhna Mine, jail time would not be served
•Fixed rare issue with skills not increasing properly
•Fixed issue where the Headsman’s Axe did not gain proper buff from Barbarian perk
•In “A Night to Remember” it is no longer possible to kill Ysolda, Ennis or Senna before starting the quest
•Fixed issue with the ebony dagger having a weapon speed that was too slow
•Fixed issue with “The Wolf Queen Awakened” where backing out of a conversation with Styrr too soon would block progress
•The third level of the Limbsplitter perk now properly improves all battle axes
•Fixed a rare issue where Sanguine Rose would not work properly
•In “Tending the Flames” King Olaf’s Verse will no longer disappear from explosions

[Gideon Dragontongue]

Sooo..... Who's heard about the nasty new bug with the awesome new kill-cam patch? All CK modders are advised not to download the 1.5.24 patch because of a change to the record files that causes major errors and can corrupt your plug-ins. Niiiiiiiiiiiiice, Bethie.

Like the CK wasn't buggy to the point of uselessness beforehand.

Uh, no.

And Steam now downloaded Steam for everyone, which means there's going to be a slowdown in modding until Bethesda gets that one sorted out.

[yodah]

I just had a 224Mb download for Skyrim... but no news on if it was update 1.5.

EDIT: (from bethblog twitter) Skyrim 1.5 update is now on Steam. For those on 360 and PS3, we're submitting the update to consoles this week.

http://www.bethblog.com/2012/03/20/skyr ... -on-steam/

224Mb? That is going to take my PS3 a loooong time to download.....I wish my internet was faster.

[Gideon Dragontongue]

I don't like not being able to mod, but the new finishers are SOOOO awesome!

[ScorpionGT1]

So will we not be able to use mods with the new patch? Or are we just unable to create our own mods?

[Frost Mage]

So will we not be able to use mods with the new patch? Or are we just unable to create our own mods?

He's implying that the CK is so buggy that this will have to do for now.

[Gideon Dragontongue]

So will we not be able to use mods with the new patch? Or are we just unable to create our own mods?

No created mods, basically it change some stuff in the reference file that can result in SERIOUS corruption to plug-ins. Not good.

[CreeperX]

Played for the first time with the patch yesterday. It totally surprised me cause I didn't even notice steam downloading it. The first time I jumped in the water I was like "Woah woah woah, what happened, why does this look so good?" And then there's the new kill cams. I LOVE them. About time we got some for ranged combat cause it felt rather unfair that I could never see any of those while playing as my mage.
I haven't downloaded any mods so I haven't got any major problems so far.

[Jeff]

Fixed - The 3 Instruments from the Bards College Quests do get removed now.

Not Fixed - The "Bring Dragon Bones and Scales to Esbern" Quest still does not clear after doing that quest.

Not Fixed - Farkas does not offer any more jobs.

Broken - Now Vilkas does not offer any more jobs.

@ Gideon: Any link(s) to the CK issue. I have not seen it anywhere, and you are the only one to mention it.

BTW, I did also get a CK update later as well as the 1.5 patch. Maybe that addressed those issues?

[Gideon Dragontongue]

Bethesda Forums

From the Creation Kit Steam Group Page, by the Administrator:

If you are working in the CK, it is recommended not to update to Beta Patch 1.5.24.0.5

There was a change in format for one of the record types that results in severe errors that can corrupt your plugin file when you open and save it in the CK.

MASTERFILE: GameSetting 'fTemperingSkillUseItemValConst' in file 'Update.esm' is not recognized by the current EXE.
MASTERFILE: GameSetting 'fTemperingSkillUseItemValExp' in file 'Update.esm' is not recognized by the current EXE.
MASTERFILE: GameSetting 'fTemperingSkillUseItemValMult' in file 'Update.esm' is not recognized by the current EXE.
MASTERFILE: GameSetting 'fConstructibleSkillUseConst' in file 'Update.esm' is not recognized by the current EXE.
MASTERFILE: GameSetting 'fConstructibleSkilluseExp' in file 'Update.esm' is not recognized by the current EXE.
MASTERFILE: GameSetting 'fConstructibleSkillUseMult' in file 'Update.esm' is not recognized by the current EXE.
MASTERFILE: GameSetting 'sInvalidTagString' in file 'Update.esm' is not recognized by the current EXE.
FORMS: Chunk size 44 too big in chunk DATA_ID in form CAMS_ID (0010C75B).
Max size is 40, data truncated to "".

If you have already saved your plugin after updating to 1.5 Beta, it is recommended to revert to an earlier save and roll back to 1.4 if you want to work in the Creation Kit.

[Dark Spark]

...Not Fixed - The "Bring Dragon Bones and Scales to Esbern" Quest still does not clear after doing that quest. ...

I thought that was a recurring quest— so long as you keep giving him the ingredients, he'll make you another potion. Sort of like Sinderion giving you Elixirs of Exploration in Oblivion even after you've collected the first 100 Nirnroot.

[Gideon Dragontongue]

It is, so maybe not quite such a bug.

[Jeff]

It is not recuring, as I never have had the option with him, to give him more bones and scales.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Dragon_Research

It was not broken since patch 1.5, it has been broken since the game was released.

[Gideon Dragontongue]

Oh, I see, you never get the option.

[Jeff]

The Blessing is recuring, since it only lasts for 5 days.

The "Bones & Scales" is a one time deal, after you get the potion. The problem is that the quest doesn't update. You can remove it with console commands, by forcing the setstage to end it.

[Siken]

WOW
I just instaled new pach and i tested to see how my performance re doing.
I whas scared that shadows may reduce my fps but they also sad this pach have some optimisation so
after the test im not sure i get wors performance but game do look beter for sure.

Then I dl. and instaled SKSE and ran game whit it becouse i hear it incrise FPS, and WOW.
You may not notice this thing till you make them all att one time so i get like 10-15 FPS mor and game run and look soo nice now ...

Now i have question, do I need to start a new char if i whana see thing fixed, like Deflect Arrows skill perk and som other?

[Gideon Dragontongue]

No, everything should work now for any character.