In My Time Of Need.

Tarquin Dynatus · Post by **Tarquin Dynatus** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:27 pm

I believe Saadia did sell her city out to the Thalmor. If the Alik'r warriors were merely simple assassins and mercenaries, they would hardly have any interest in keeping her alive for transportation back to Hammerfell. They want her to face due justice. She sold her people out.

Who I support depends on what character I am playing. My Thalmor agents of course helps her, because we look after our friends. But my loyalist Imperial or bellicose Nord Stormcloak turns her over to just her just deserts.

DeeJay · Post by **DeeJay** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:00 am

Funny story on this:

Spoiler:

MichaelTh1rte3n · Post by **MichaelTh1rte3n** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:27 am

DeeJay wrote:Funny story on this:

Spoiler:
The Redguards approached me at the gate in Whiterun, I agreed to look for this woman. I though: "oh boy. I'll most likely end up having to chase her all around Skyrim just to find her.
I then went to the Bannered Mare inn, got a room. The bard was singing a catchy jingle so I went on the balcony and sat down. A serving girl came and asked me if I needed anything (shocking me since Oblivion you don't have that).
I noticed that one of the conversation options was to ask about the woman and did so.
Her response would of made me spit out a mouth full of mead if I'd had one! I wasn't going to have to hunt her down after all! HA!

After listening to her story, I decided to go check out the Redguards. I was playing my Breton Mage. Gaining access was easy. Once I passed through the waterfall, I saw I was surrounded. That gave me pause. I believe it was 7 to 1? I listened to their story, then had to hit pause. Nothing made sense to me. All these guys to capture one Redguard woman. I'd observe them harrassing other women on the road. I even found a dead Redguard woman next to her horse on the road, but that might have been a bandit attack. These guys sounded very sure of themselves, but then, assasins and mercs normally would.
Thinking back to Saadia, she truly sounded in distress to me. So I made my decision.
I pulled out a Firestorm Scroll and let loose....back quickly through the waterfall, and used the full force of my Unrelenting Force shout when they came through. Then quickly impaled each one with my ice spell.

That done, I went back and told Saadia it was all over. When I listened to her response......my blood went cold. Sorry, it could have been just the way the voice actor read the lines. But I swear her voice sounded like what she was really saying was:

"Thank you so much for a being a sucker whom I just played!"

Since then with other characters, I leave this quest alone. Left a bad taste in my mouth! hehehehehe

I know exactly what you mean, she has a sort of snide tone in her voice and gives a rather half-felt thanks like it was convenient for her that you got the job done and came back alive... Kematu has a rather genuine feel to his thanks.

SAMIAM · Post by **SAMIAM** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:05 pm

Someone was saying that she escapes and has a random encounter in Skyrim... is this true?

OblivionDuruza · Post by **OblivionDuruza** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:50 pm

I don't think so, it's not recorded in any official documentation nor on the Wiki and a quick search of the web rendered nothing much. Still, it could be possible.

On another note, all this vigilante justice, it just kills me to see.

philfredobob · Post by **philfredobob** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:14 pm

I think Kematu is definetly telling the truth , for the following reasons :
1- Saadias story makes no sense , thalmor are allowed to take whoever they want into custody whenever they want and they have the justiciars in skyrim , they would get her themselves , not using mercs , especially not redguards (since they are all racist turds against all men races)
2- Kematu say something similar to '' damn it , you've killed her , now all my work is for nothing'' when you kill her after he casts a paralyze spell outside of whiterun , i think if he were an assassin like she described he would have just left and took the credit for her murder

well thats what i think ... dont be fooled by a pretty face , folks , your all better than that ( well ..from what ive read ... most of you are?

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DorostheConqueror · Post by **DorostheConqueror** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:19 pm

I was going to sacrifice her to Sithis once I was done with the quest anyway, so the decision to turn that stinking elf-collaborator in was an easy one.

OblivionDuruza · Post by **OblivionDuruza** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:09 am

philfredobob, I don't think that there is strong enough evidence to be sure either way, and certainly not enough to make a judgement, especially by modern standards of judiciary.

On your two points, the fact we do not know what Kematu's motivation actually is means that it is plausible that the only reason he does not wish to kill Saadia is so he can drag her off to his employers in Hammerfell and earn additional payment, allowing them to have their way with her and bring down their own version of 'justice' upon her. He's not being paid to kill her, it would seem he is being paid to bring her into custody, for whatever reason - that we cannot be sure of.

Margurka · Post by **Margurka** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:21 am

If you want to do the right thing view my spoiler.

Spoiler:

ajrman · Post by **ajrman** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:05 pm

My character's birthplace is in Taneth. My character's father was killed in the defence of Taneth. (Yes, I am one of those people who like to make complex and detailed backstories.) So when I found out that Saadia had sold Taneth out to the Aldmeri Dominion I was furious!

Rynkar · Post by **Rynkar** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:57 am

Ah man I suck at these choices, well on this one it sounded more like kematu was telling the truth, there just isn't enough evidence either way but the way the chick rather have you kill them all instead of directing them away throes up a red flag to me.

FortySeven · Post by **FortySeven** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:25 am

I killed kematu. Dropped him like a bad habit with a poison arrow and got the hell out of dodge so I didn't have to fight his buddies. Maybe I will go back and clean them up.....hmmm. She will die in her sleep one night I will see to that. As far as making the decision who to believe I really didn't pay much attention. I figured sneaking into a cave and whacking the boss in front of his buddies seemed more fun and challenging.

OblivionDuruza · Post by **OblivionDuruza** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:20 am

ajrman wrote:My character's birthplace is in Taneth. My character's father was killed in the defence of Taneth. (Yes, I am one of those people who like to make complex and detailed backstories.) So when I found out that Saadia had sold Taneth out to the Aldmeri Dominion I was furious!

You do realise that this accusation can never be verified, and she may very well not have done that, right? But then I guess, that sort of logic might not apply to your character, in character, considering personal bias' effect in their jumping to that conclusion.

Stormborn · Post by **Stormborn** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:21 pm

I can't tell which of them is truthful. Usually side with Kematu unless I haven't yet acquired a curved sword. But as you can get one at the Dainty Sload, Saadia is generally out of luck.

Jabbrwock · Post by **Jabbrwock** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:24 am

Frankly, I think both of them are telling completely bogus tales. Saadia was probably on the losing side of some internal politics of Hammerfell, and had to flee. The Alik'r are looking for her to make a public example of their enemies. The Dominion was probably not involved at all - both sides talk about the Dominion purely selfishly, to attempt to arouse your sympathy for their position. They know the Dominion is unpopular in Skyrim, how better to get support. If either side were *ACTUALLY* aligned with the Dominion, they could go to the Thalmor for help. That they didn't shows, in my mind, that both sides deserve what they get - my arrows in their knees. Skyrim needs more guards anyway.

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