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In My Time Of Need.
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In My Time Of Need.
Who did you choose to help in this quest and why?
I am utterly stuck!
Things that do not add up:
I am utterly stuck!
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
Oh man, this quest was so hard for me due to the decision at the end. But it came down to this:
In any case, on my next playthrough I shall certainly do the opposite.
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
Avron the S'wit wrote:Oh man, this quest was so hard for me due to the decision at the end. But it came down to this:In any case, on my next playthrough I shall certainly do the opposite.Spoiler:
Yes I had a change of tactics too when I noticed I was surrounded... tends to lead a man to listen and act logically xD
I am sure there are some subtle hints in what was said that adds a little more weight to one sides argument though.
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
Really? What is your opinion on who was right and who was wrong? I honestly couldn't make up my mind. And either way, my character isn't excessively golden-hearted to mind either way, really. But I did just start over, so maybe I will pay more attention to that quest and see for myself! I'll get back in a day or two and tell you what I think, but I'd love to hear your opinion!
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
After listening to both sides, I chose to hand over Saadia. Twas a tough decision.
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
I will spoiler this for people still playing through it but here goes.
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
Exactly. If the Thalmor want her, they have much better agents than a band of mercenaries. Saadia sold out Taneth to the Dominion and the people of Hammerfell wants justice.MichaelTh1rte3n wrote:Hammerfell is not pro Elf so why would they want to take her back there for speaking out against their invaders.
It was a simple decision for me. Don't mess with my redguards.
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
That is actually a really good point! if they wanted her they could just go in and take her... they do that to Talos worshippers and I would imagine they would care more about her than them. Her story sooo does not add up!Giordano wrote:Exactly. If the Thalmor want her, they have much better agents than a band of mercenaries. Saadia sold out Taneth to the Dominion and the people of Hammerfell wants justice.MichaelTh1rte3n wrote:Hammerfell is not pro Elf so why would they want to take her back there for speaking out against their invaders.
It was a simple decision for me. Don't mess with my redguards.
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
I think the truth lies somewhere inbetween. I don't believe either side.
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
I did not like her story either, though I didn't actually think through to this extent. I was going to save her, but... she seemed VERY hostile for one, then when I went to the cave, the others seemed just too... calm and reasonable to be cutthroats. I agreed to help them, not because I couldn't kill them (I probably would have succeeded at that point, AND had a follower with some destructive double wielded staves), but because I trusted them more. Also, what they say at the end, it points to them being right. What does Saadia say if you save her?
Could we get a poll too?
Could we get a poll too?
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
I turned her over at first. Second time around I painted the cave red...with redguard blood lol.
Tactic: Fall back into the waterfall with a bow and arrow, they can't sorround you with numbers and have to fight one by one. Just be sure your block skill is high, I don't see a way to do this without a shield unless you're super awesome with a bow or two handed.
Tactic: Fall back into the waterfall with a bow and arrow, they can't sorround you with numbers and have to fight one by one. Just be sure your block skill is high, I don't see a way to do this without a shield unless you're super awesome with a bow or two handed.
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
NLN wrote:I did not like her story either, though I didn't actually think through to this extent. I was going to save her, but... she seemed VERY hostile for one, then when I went to the cave, the others seemed just too... calm and reasonable to be cutthroats. I agreed to help them, not because I couldn't kill them (I probably would have succeeded at that point, AND had a follower with some destructive double wielded staves), but because I trusted them more. Also, what they say at the end, it points to them being right. What does Saadia say if you save her?
Could we get a poll too?
Done, I am about decided, although there are some suspect things on Kematu there is so much more wrong with Saadia's story.
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
If there was even a chance that Saadia had anything to do with the Thalmor, I would have turned on her in an instant. Plus, those big Redguard guys have curved swords. Curved. Swords.
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
I play a Pro-Thalmor character *gasp* so I knew my choice as soon as I reached the end of the cave. Killing the mercenary wasn't so much out of anger, but more out of necessity. They had located her in her home city, where they were bound to pass through the inn eventually. Saadia would never be safe if I didn't fight. The only thing I regret was actually finishing the quest, because the Alik'r Warriors invaded my hangout at the entrance of the city just to stand still and get in my way. Might be a glitch. I had to defeat the warriors in the cave by hiding in a thin cavern and lighting them up, so the corpses of 2 warriors blocked the other 4 whilst also lighting them on fire. Brutal.
If I were a neutral character, I would have sided with Saadia again just to save an NPC within a city, of which there are still not enough.
If I were a neutral character, I would have sided with Saadia again just to save an NPC within a city, of which there are still not enough.
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
Alchemist wrote:I play a Pro-Thalmor character *gasp* so I knew my choice as soon as I reached the end of the cave. Killing the mercenary wasn't so much out of anger, but more out of necessity. They had located her in her home city, where they were bound to pass through the inn eventually. Saadia would never be safe if I didn't fight. The only thing I regret was actually finishing the quest, because the Alik'r Warriors invaded my hangout at the entrance of the city just to stand still and get in my way. Might be a glitch. I had to defeat the warriors in the cave by hiding in a thin cavern and lighting them up, so the corpses of 2 warriors blocked the other 4 whilst also lighting them on fire. Brutal.
If I were a neutral character, I would have sided with Saadia again just to save an NPC within a city, of which there are still not enough.
So you accept Saadia is a liar and she aided the Thalmor?
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
Saadia is a woman. I needed no further arguments to decide to side with her.
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
Well, she assumes the player is a neutral or Imperial/Stormcloak leaning. If a pro-Thalmor player pulls out his "Thalmor - KGB" badge, she wouldn't have to lie.MichaelTh1rte3n wrote:Alchemist wrote:I play a Pro-Thalmor character *gasp* so I knew my choice as soon as I reached the end of the cave. Killing the mercenary wasn't so much out of anger, but more out of necessity. They had located her in her home city, where they were bound to pass through the inn eventually. Saadia would never be safe if I didn't fight. The only thing I regret was actually finishing the quest, because the Alik'r Warriors invaded my hangout at the entrance of the city just to stand still and get in my way. Might be a glitch. I had to defeat the warriors in the cave by hiding in a thin cavern and lighting them up, so the corpses of 2 warriors blocked the other 4 whilst also lighting them on fire. Brutal.
If I were a neutral character, I would have sided with Saadia again just to save an NPC within a city, of which there are still not enough.
So you accept Saadia is a liar and she aided the Thalmor?
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
Originally, I was all for the woman alone and I was going to help her. After hearing the other side, I couldn't decide so I ignore them and let them sort it out themselves. Of course, the game being what it is, I keep running into them. I think it's ok not to take a side and stay out of it in certain situations.
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
NLN wrote: What does Saadia say if you save her?
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
LOL!Lord Cattow wrote:Saadia is a woman. I needed no further arguments to decide to side with her.
Ever played Morrowind/Tribunal?
But I agree, a pretty girl could talk almost any man into going to great lengths to help her, just by appearing lost and helpless. It's called expert manipulation. Not that it means she's actually done anything wrong, but it doesn't excuse her either.
Michael: thanks, this really seems to point to her being guilty...
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
I would paralyze and drag her to Hammerfell myself if that would be possible. OK, Kharjo would drag her. 
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
She had a pretty face and I wanted a collection of curved swords so that was my reason for taking her side even though she seemed like she was lier. Me and Lyndia gutted them
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
It seems the people who side with her seem to do so because she is pretty or another reason not because she is innocent LOL I thought the question of her innocence would be more up for debate!
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
It's a woman. None of them are innocent, but if they are pretty, they are well worth defending!MichaelTh1rte3n wrote:It seems the people who side with her seem to do so because she is pretty or another reason not because she is innocent LOL I thought the question of her innocence would be more up for debate!
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Re: In My Time Of Need.
I have only finished this quest with my initial character, a Khajiit assassin.
I admit I did think about it for a bit. However, this character is all about the septims, so I ended up
I admit I did think about it for a bit. However, this character is all about the septims, so I ended up
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