Haters of the Thalmor.

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What's your oppinion?

I hate the Thalmor.
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I love the Thalmor.
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I hate both the Empire and the Aldmeri Dominion.
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Haters of the Thalmor.

Post by Tiber-Septim »

Who here hates the Thalmor? Personally I think they are racist elves who are no better than the Nazis. :x Who else wishes to see the Thalmor burn in Oblivion?
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

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Tiber-Septim wrote:Who here hates the Thalmor? Personally I think they are racist elves who are no better than the Nazis. :x Who else wishes to see the Thalmor burn in Oblivion?
Wow that Godwin's law was fast.
Also which oblivon because going to Moonshadow for ever wouldn't really be bad.
Anyway yes I hate the Thalmor.
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

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I always kill them. n_n
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

Post by DorostheConqueror »

It's not Godwin's Law when the Nazi allusion is pretty clear, agreed upon, and probably intentional. Although interestingly, having read a number of Skyrim threads over at Stormfront, it seems the Nazis themselves think the Thalmor represent Jews, and the Empire, ZoG.

Nazis or ZoG, either way, screw 'em. DEATH TO THE ELVES!
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

Post by Vexen »

They're the typical bad guys of course, it's pretty hard to seriously agree with their actions. I do love them as an ingame faction though. I hope we'll see more Thalmor in the future.
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

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I tend to leave them alone in game, until after a certain quest has them sending out a contract to have me killed, for being a threat to the Thalmor.

...after that... it.is.ON...
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

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Outside of those devout to all-things-Mer, everyone agrees that the Thalmor are indeed the evil regime. Nearly all evidence and conversations support this opinion, although they're ambiguous enough to defend if someone really wants to.
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

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Knight Captain Kerr wrote:
Tiber-Septim wrote:Who here hates the Thalmor? Personally I think they are racist elves who are no better than the Nazis. :x Who else wishes to see the Thalmor burn in Oblivion?
Wow that Godwin's law was fast.
Also which oblivon because going to Moonshadow for ever wouldn't really be bad.
Anyway yes I hate the Thalmor.
They should burn in Mehrunes Dagon's Deadlands
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

Post by Samaelthedestroyer »

The only thing I hate more than a racist is an elf.
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

Post by Syrkin »

Racism is hating a race based on limited or no information. However, 100% of the Thalmor I have encountered have been rude and haughty, and typically only survive due to being in a town where I would antagonize the guards if I killed said Thalmor. Therefore, based on experience, I hate the Thalmor as a race.

I find it humorous that the Orcs I have met in-game have been more friendly and helpful than the other elves I have met. Wood elves and Orcs hate each other, as a fantasy-world standard. Dark elves aren't helpful or harmful, just 'there'. Wood Elves are rare indeed, and I somehow got my elf escort killed in the Thalmor Embassy during the MQ.

And don't get me started on the humans in this game! I spent a half hour giving Thorald Silver-Blood (in the Markarth Bank?) a constant beat-down, but he's a mandatory NPC so can't be killed. But repeatedly shanking him was satisfaction at it's finest.

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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

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Wow, great poll. -.-
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

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Giordano wrote:Wow, great poll. -.-
lol, It's refreshingly simple. What don't you like about it, though?
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

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GhostOfNumenor wrote:
Giordano wrote:Wow, great poll. -.-
lol, It's refreshingly simple. What don't you like about it, though?
There's no neutral option towards the Thalmor? Or mild versions of like and dislike?
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My female Argonian vampire and her wife, Brelyna of House Telvanni, both hate yellow elves, so they signed up with Ulfric. Skyrim belongs to the Nords!
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

Post by Leviathen249 »

Yup, try too kill them whenever I see them. DOWN WITH THE THALMOR!
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

Post by GhostOfNumenor »

Giordano wrote:There's no neutral option towards the Thalmor? Or mild versions of like and dislike?
*shrug* It's just for fun.

You could always ignore it, or even make a new one.

I'm not the OP, but what's your position?
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

Post by The Sexy Stableman »

"I hate both the Empire and the Aldmeri Dominion." I don't get this one.

Oh, and who doesn't like killing Nazis anyway? :)
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

Post by OblivionDuruza »

I neither hate nor love the Empire, nor the Thalmor. I leave them alone and don't go storming through their embassies stealing precious documents, distrusting important functions, freeing prisoners and killing guards, and I don't go out of my way to insult them in conversation, and they leave me well enough alone.

Is it really necessary to have a thread about hate? I don't see any, "We hate the Stormcloaks" or "Haters of the Empire" threads. :|
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

Post by Arch-Mage Matt »

I'm sure this can be a discussion thread about the Thalmor, too, Duruza. Besides, Bethesda obviously set the Thalmor up as one of the major antagonists in the story. I don't think anyone will get too offended in this thread.
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

Post by OblivionDuruza »

Well as long as it's being moderated. I don't see the Thalmor as a mindless enemy, just as all previous 'villains' have been more grey than black. Think of Jagar Tharn and Dagoth Ur, neither can truly be called pure 'evil' and the same goes for that Thalmor. As long as this doesn't turn to hate Mer or Altmer in general I guess it's fine, but my point is that there have many just as questionable factions, like the Alessian Order for example. I ask for understanding, not hate.
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

Post by GhostOfNumenor »

Duruza, I love you as much as the next anonymous forum-poster, but none of this should ever be taken on a personal level. For those looking for entertainment from a video game and not necessarily morals or dilemmas, the Thalmor are simply the "bad guys" and either the Empire or Stormcloaks are the "good guys". Some--like you, me, and many others--enjoy immersing and seeing things at a much deeper level.

So, in essence, if you want to defend the Thalmor, all the power to you, please do. But try your best not to take what others say, if they disagree with you, beyond the superficial.
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

Post by Chaos the N'wah »

And he doesn't, it's the personal attacks over these debates directed at Duru that makes him such a fervent opponent to blind bashing, but I digress

I view the Thalmor like a Batman villain, someone you love to hate; My hate for the Empire is deeper and personal
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

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There are a number of offensive posts in this thread:
Tiber-Septim wrote:Who here hates the Thalmor? Personally I think they are racist elves who are no better than the Nazis. :x Who else wishes to see the Thalmor burn in Oblivion?
DorostheConqueror wrote:It's not Godwin's Law when the Nazi allusion is pretty clear, agreed upon, and probably intentional. Although interestingly, having read a number of Skyrim threads over at Stormfront, it seems the Nazis themselves think the Thalmor represent Jews, and the Empire, ZoG.

Nazis or ZoG, either way, screw 'em. DEATH TO THE ELVES!
GhostOfNumenor wrote:Outside of those devout to all-things-Mer, everyone agrees that the Thalmor are indeed the evil regime. Nearly all evidence and conversations support this opinion, although they're ambiguous enough to defend if someone really wants to.
Samaelthedestroyer wrote:The only thing I hate more than a racist is an elf.
frostmaw wrote:My female Argonian vampire and her wife, Brelyna of House Telvanni, both hate yellow elves, so they signed up with Ulfric. Skyrim belongs to the Nords!
The Sexy Stableman wrote:"I hate both the Empire and the Aldmeri Dominion." I don't get this one.

Oh, and who doesn't like killing Nazis anyway? :)

Now if people are going to bash the Thalmor, at least do it properly with evidence and intelligent discussion. Provide some evidence so that others can refute it, don't just say, only people so blind that they love Mer actually don't think the Thalmor are the root of all evil.

I'm sick of all the "Mer are inherently Evil"
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

Post by Chaos the N'wah »

Don't dance around the swear filter, be respectful damn it.
And you just made a thread calling the Stormcloaks "Natzis"
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Re: Haters of the Thalmor.

Post by ArgonianDunmer »

Well I'd like people to hate the Thalmor respectfully, and yes, I copied the OP here and changed Thalmor to Stormcloak. If this is not wrong then that thread clearly is it. I've had it up to here with all this rubbish.
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