Canon Dragonborn

Mithrandir · Post by **Mithrandir** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:12 am

So what race is the Canon Dragonborn going to be? Who did he side with during the war?

unokitsune · Post by **unokitsune** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:15 am

You always start out as a Nord male. It's always weird because the npc's that talk to you before you "decide who you truly are" including gender.

Navaha · Post by **Navaha** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:16 am

Spoilers for the main quest:

Spoiler:

Gepard · Post by **Gepard** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:19 am

Race would likely be Nord, that seems to be the trend in previous games (native to whatever Province the game takes place in), but which side I'm not sure. Both have their reasons for occurring, so it could honestly go either way. Empire, from a lore perspective, seems likely as it would allow the next game to flesh the story line with the Thalmor out. Siding with the Stormcloaks though would definitely create a whole new plot twist, and I wouldn't be surprised if Bethesda might want to go in this new direction.

fabittar · Post by **fabittar** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:25 am

Gepard wrote:Race would likely be Nord, that seems to be the trend in previous games (native to whatever Province the game takes place in), but which side I'm not sure. Both have their reasons for occurring, so it could honestly go either way. Empire, from a lore perspective, seems likely as it would allow the next game to flesh the story line with the Thalmor out. Siding with the Stormcloaks though would definitely create a whole new plot twist, and I wouldn't be surprised if Bethesda might want to go in this new direction.

Finish the Dark Brotherhood questline and you'll know they've already taken the winding path. It only gets more complicated from here, trust me.

Talamare · Post by **Talamare** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:40 am

They made 100% sure to NEVER specify a race in Morrowind

99% sure that this is true for Oblivion as well

Mr.Scryer. · Post by **Mr.Scryer.** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:47 pm

why can't people just enjoy the game without ruining others by trying to label something canon? there is no canon except for the core storyline of dragons coming back, everything else is up to the player, bethesda gave us these choices for a reason, to choose what we want. dragonborn's gender and race is entirely up to us along with his/her morality and path. I swear with every rpg game there is always going to be someone who tries to label something canon in it which ruins the fact that these type of games are about multiple choices.

Sloady · Post by **Sloady** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:11 pm

There is no canon race. The Dragonborn will be written into the Elder Scrolls, and the Elder Scrolls are forever changing. As for what he did, we only know that he

Spoiler:

While everything that happens in Skyrim happens in the world, it is never revealed who is the one to do this. As such, it can be dragonborn, or some other hero.

Ronok · Post by **Ronok** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:19 pm

I always thought it was based on the game..

Morrowind = Dunmer (cant explain Bloodmoon ala this logic)
Oblivion = Imperial (the guard in the introvideo with the sword looks like one)
Skyrim = Nord (being as its default start)

Also it would appear that they kinda got weird from Oblivion -> Skyrim with the whole

Spoiler:

JoeyDestructo · Post by **JoeyDestructo** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:23 pm

TheNightFather wrote:There is no canon race. The Dragonborn will be written into the Elder Scrolls, and the Elder Scrolls are forever changing. As for what he did, we only know that he
Spoiler:
must have killed Alduin.

While everything that happens in Skyrim happens in the world, it is never revealed who is the one to do this. As such, it can be dragonborn, or some other hero.

the Elder Scrolls really are an ingenious plot device

Sloady · Post by **Sloady** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:20 pm

JoeyDestructo wrote:
TheNightFather wrote:There is no canon race. The Dragonborn will be written into the Elder Scrolls, and the Elder Scrolls are forever changing. As for what he did, we only know that he
Spoiler:
must have killed Alduin.

While everything that happens in Skyrim happens in the world, it is never revealed who is the one to do this. As such, it can be dragonborn, or some other hero.
the Elder Scrolls really are an ingenious plot device

Indeed. Completely vague, yet infinitely specific.

Evil-i · Post by **Evil-i** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:32 pm

Mithrandir wrote:So what race is the Canon Dragonborn going to be? Who did he side with during the war?

Who said the Dragonborn has to be a male?

Kavatch99 · Post by **Kavatch99** » Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:00 am

unokitsune wrote:You always start out as a Nord male. It's always weird because the npc's that talk to you before you "decide who you truly are" including gender.

I don't think its weird. No one refers to your character by your race and sex before the character creation.

Pilaf The Defiler · Post by **Pilaf The Defiler** » Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:23 am

Mithrandir wrote:So what race is the Canon Dragonborn going to be? Who did he side with during the war?

There won't be one. None of the previous game's protagonists is ever referred to by name, gender, race, age..anything specific.

The_Noob · Post by **The_Noob** » Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:20 am

The Elder Scrolls see all possible pasts and futures.

Pretty much, the Elder Scrolls are a plot excuse to make sure there is never a canon main character, and all the quest you do? Well, those were possible, too, but they may or may not have happened.

Bethesda even went so far as to making multiple-choice ending off Daggerfall null and void by explaining it away via the book Warp in the West.

Pilaf The Defiler · Post by **Pilaf The Defiler** » Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:45 am

Yeah..the copout in this game universe is "An Elder Scroll Did It" as opposed to "A Wizard Did It". Game dialogue in Skyrim suggests the gods themselves fear the Scrolls and with good reason.

Post by **Kerr** » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:45 pm

There will never be a canon dragonborn. It is up to you to decide who the dragonborn was.

azuarc · Post by **azuarc** » Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:10 pm

Pilaf The Defiler wrote:There won't be one. None of the previous game's protagonists is ever referred to by name, gender, race, age..anything specific.

I had thought The Oblivion Crisis mentioned male pronouns at some point, but I just reread it to check, and they went through hilarious ends to avoid it.

mcjordalini · Post by **mcjordalini** » Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:50 pm

azuarc wrote:
Pilaf The Defiler wrote:There won't be one. None of the previous game's protagonists is ever referred to by name, gender, race, age..anything specific.
I had thought The Oblivion Crisis mentioned male pronouns at some point, but I just reread it to check, and they went through hilarious ends to avoid it.

Care to link to what you read ? I'd like to read it too (:

The Dog Whisperer · Post by **The Dog Whisperer** » Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:56 pm

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:The_Oblivion_Crisis

It's not that bad.

mcjordalini · Post by **mcjordalini** » Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:16 pm

The Dog Whisperer wrote:http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:The_Oblivion_Crisis

It's not that bad.

Thanks, it was a good read.

Pilaf The Defiler · Post by **Pilaf The Defiler** » Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:26 pm

See what I mean? They won't go the KOTOR route or anything and canonize the gender. It'll always be "The Nerevarine" or "The Champion" or "The Dragonborn."

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