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i know that there is no weapon degradation in skyrim but as i use my equipped weapon it seems to lose damage over time. after a while if i highlight it in my inventory itll say "+XX" damage if i equip this weapon.......but its already equipped. unequipping and re-equipping seems to fix this but not permanently. i dont have any diseases or any other active effects that would cause this. any ideas?
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I have it same way, all best one hand swords on my lvl are 12 dmg but when i look at my sword soemtimes it says 8 - 12 and then after while it changes back to 12...
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my first guess is getting the rested boost and well rested
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Wolfie wrote:my first guess is getting the rested boost and well rested
I thought that only accelerates skill advancement.
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ElusiveWhark wrote:i know that there is no weapon degradation in skyrim but as i use my equipped weapon it seems to lose damage over time. after a while if i highlight it in my inventory itll say "+XX" damage if i equip this weapon.......but its already equipped. unequipping and re-equipping seems to fix this but not permanently. i dont have any diseases or any other active effects that would cause this. any ideas?
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Well you see I'm a werewolf so I dont know what it dose...

but there is no weapon degradation, so something is efecting it, maybe Stanma? idk
somethign I dont think its a glitch cause it the way it works seems intended
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I don't know what you guys are talking about. If you unequip a weapon, then highlight it, you'll see +(weapon's attack), because the game is telling you how much your attack with rise when you equip it. If you already have a weapon equipped and highlight a new one, you'll see +/-(the difference between what's quipped and what's highlighted). Say if you have an Iron Sword with 9 attack equipped, and highlight a steel sword with 11, you ought to see +2.
If you highlight said iron sword, you will see -9, because the game is telling you how much attack you'll lose if you unequip it.
If you have a stack of two swords, both equipped, and highlight it, you'll see a sum of both of their attacks, and -(the attack of one of the highlighted weapons) because the game is telling you how much attack you'll lose if you unequip one.

It gets "confusing" because, say you have two 9 attack weapons equipped, if you highlight a weapon with less than 18 attack (the sum of both weapons), but with higher attack than 9, you'll still get a negative number, because the game assumes you're only equipping that one weapon.
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Akiraka wrote:I don't know what you guys are talking about. If you unequip a weapon, then highlight it, you'll see +(weapon's attack), because the game is telling you how much your attack with rise when you equip it. If you already have a weapon equipped and highlight a new one, you'll see +/-(the difference between what's quipped and what's highlighted).

i currently have an orcish warhammer (fine) 51 damage equipped. when i highlight it the game says 51 (+23). how can equipping this weapon boost my damage 23 if its already equipped? if in unequip and re-equip the +23 goes away for a while but returns after some time
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ElusiveWhark wrote:
Akiraka wrote:I don't know what you guys are talking about. If you unequip a weapon, then highlight it, you'll see +(weapon's attack), because the game is telling you how much your attack with rise when you equip it. If you already have a weapon equipped and highlight a new one, you'll see +/-(the difference between what's quipped and what's highlighted).

i currently have an orcish warhammer (fine) 51 damage equipped. when i highlight it the game says 51 (+23). how can equipping this weapon boost my damage 23 if its already equipped? if in unequip and re-equip the +23 goes away for a while but returns after some time
Now that... that is strange. What race are you, and have you taken the Perk for H2H bonus damage when wearing Gauntlets?
+23 might be the difference between the warhammer's and your H2H damage.

Another theory might be that the game doesn't immediately apply new weapon damage values on weapons that were equipped when you took the relevant Perks, I don't know... Strange indeed.
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Spiney wrote:
ElusiveWhark wrote:i know that there is no weapon degradation in skyrim but as i use my equipped weapon it seems to lose damage over time. after a while if i highlight it in my inventory itll say "+XX" damage if i equip this weapon.......but its already equipped. unequipping and re-equipping seems to fix this but not permanently. i dont have any diseases or any other active effects that would cause this. any ideas?
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I suspect this has something to do with how perks and skill levels modify weapons (and armor). I think for some reason you see things as the "base" level (low / no skill, no perks) and sometimes with the perked / skilled attributes.
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i do have gauntlets that increase 2h damage 15% and barbarian lvl3 (+60% damage) but 23 is not 75% of 51 so i dont think that has anything to do with it. i did just notice that the game thinks a steel greatswrod with 39 damage will do 11 more damage then my orc war hammer. once i unequipped and re-equipped my hammer and the +23 went away however it said the sword does -12 to my hammer. so it seems im actually doing less damage then i should be. is anybody else having this problem or is it just me? im playing on ps3
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i do have gauntlets that increase 2h damage 15% and barbarian lvl3 (+60% damage) but 23 is not 75%
*Says in Arnold Schwarzenegger voice* It doesn't work that way.
At least, I don't think it does. I don't think % increases are cumulative, i.e. 10 + 25% + 25% = 10 + 50% or 15. I think it works like 10 + 25% = 12.5, + 25% = 15.6, so you get even more bang, which probably also leads to the wonky figures.

What I actually meant though (if you were replying to me) was, do you have the Heavy Armor Perk that increases your Hand to Hand damage when wearing heavy gauntlets. It will make your damage without anything equipped look higher 'than it should', which could/ would cause the strange +/-'s on your display.
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no i dont have that perk. it seems to just be a bug. when i activated berserkers rage the damage of my hammer jumped to 103. when i came out of it it said 51(-52). i think for some reason its just not calculating damage correctly when buffs are applied/removed
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ElusiveWhark wrote:no i dont have that perk. it seems to just be a bug. when i activated berserkers rage the damage of my hammer jumped to 103. when i came out of it it said 51(-52). i think for some reason its just not calculating damage correctly when buffs are applied/removed
Ah, hm...
Yeah, I dunno man... that sucks.
You're on PS3 yeah? You guys really seem to draw the short stick on those things :/

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