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Can you open the console?

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Does anyone know if you can open the console in Arena? I know that it's a DOS game and I don't know exactly how DOS works (never really used it). Thanks!
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I'm almost 100% that Arena and Daggerfall do not have the console. Sorry :|
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If only it did. Those damn thieves would have felt my cheap, god-mode wrath when I first encountered them.

But sadly, nay. It does not.
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You are right.
Mekorosi wrote:If only it did. Those damn thieves would have felt my cheap, god-mode wrath when I first encountered them.

But sadly, nay. It does not.
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maybe somebody can mod one
we can only hope
probablly not though since, it's an old game
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There's no console, but there are plenty of save editors.
I myself usually give my character a few bonus hit points to survive those damn thieves (or any enemy in general, really :P). Yeah, it's cheating, but it makes the game infinitely less frustrating.
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Save editors hey? I'll have to look into that. I'll post links if I find anything, because I'm sure there are people as uninformed in this regard as me :lol:.

Edit: Found some download links on the UESP.

Also found this:
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16. Is there a hex editor, or some other way I can change my character's attributes, money, etc.
Stats and gold are located in the saveengn.xx files, where xx is a value between 00 and 09. When you save a game the box you use determines this number. You need to edit this file to make the changes you want. The file is encrypted, so changes are not obvious. Use a editor such as Norton or Central Point's DiskEdit. You must be able to HEX edit.
To give a character 1,000,000,000 GP make the following change:

In file SAVEENGN.0x (all values in HEX)

Offset 41E 18
Offset 41F FA
Offset 420 C4 80
Offset 421 83 F8

Offset 041F (in the above list) is part of the field for Gold. Change it (without changing the other three) from what it is to CC to get around 65K gold pieces.
Offset 040C is part of the field for Experience. Change it from 48 to 4F to get around 1.28 x 10^11 Experience points. (This will make you in the range of 24-28th level in byte 06)

[Method to use - change 40C to 4F, win fight, distribute points, then change 40C BACK to the original value, and change 006 back too. This CAN be repeated. Each time you will have OVER 100 points to distribute. If you want LESS points, change 40B instead.]

Field covers 4 bytes - 409 to 40C (hex) 409 holds the lowest value and 40C holds the highest value.

Note that you'll get, all at once, the bonus points that comes with the level you become, including improved hitpoints, etc, but may have to fight first.

To give a character more attribute points make the following change: (next fight gives the points)

In file SAVEENGN.0x (all values in HEX)

Offset 006 87 (make character level 1)

at the time of the next fight you will get a bunch of points to distribute. The number depends on the difference between level 1 and the character's current level. However, be certain NOT to go to 100 for each attribute, since that will hang the game when the character next gains a level and there is NO place to put the points. Leave at least (6*(26-current level)) points available for distribution. The value in offset 006 will then be at the correct value for the level the character should be at, and the exercise can be repeated.
You should be able to do anything you want if you do this. Someone else might have locations for each of the stats, etc. If the idea is to increase stats, use the offset 006 change until the values you want to increase are high enough. Allow for normal increases during the game, plus finding of 50 points via one of the artifacts....

Its much easier to edit the spells, since they're kept in clear hex. Use Spellmaker to create a spell that does 1-1 pts of damage, +1-1/level, then look the spell up in the SPELLS.xx file (where xx is the savegame #), and change it to 99-99, + 99-99/level, etc, etc. [see 17 below for details.]

You can also edit the % chance, plus the duration, etc. You'll also find a couple of new spell effects in here, that probably never got implemented, CAGE and DEATH SPELL. Attempting to use them generally results in disharmonious outcomes... [Advice - Do not try them]

Is this what you mean?
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Sort of. They do have hex editors, but they also have editors similar to trainers.
Just go to the files page for Daggerfall on the UESP wiki. That'll give you more than a few to choose from.
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Unionhack wrote:Sort of. They do have hex editors, but they also have editors similar to trainers.
Just go to the files page for Daggerfall on the UESP wiki. That'll give you more than a few to choose from.
I already know that there is no console and i also change my game characters because it is necessary to do some low frustration.
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I have never tried opening arena in console.
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Great question! No.
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The thread's a month dead, Meej-Dar. The question has been resolved.
Let it be, man.
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Play Sorcerer guys, you will pwn any enemy with 1 spell, be completely invincible to magic thanks to absorbing and to physical damage thanks to shield spell.
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Frost Mage wrote:Does anyone know if you can open the console in Arena? I know that it's a DOS game and I don't know exactly how DOS works (never really used it). Thanks!
Oh, the generation gap. So you are going to make me feel old, huh, Frosty?
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the Savage Hippie wrote:
Frost Mage wrote:Does anyone know if you can open the console in Arena? I know that it's a DOS game and I don't know exactly how DOS works (never really used it). Thanks!
Oh, the generation gap. So you are going to make me feel old, huh, Frosty?
I remember the time when you would feel a massive achievement for getting a code to give you a meagre bonus or to make your games easier.
Hell,I remember the time when you didn't have a code console whatever.The game you got was the game you got.No console work-arounds to bugs,no self made god mode.Nothing.Just patience and hope that the next patch would fix your problem and give you something new.

Now I see "cheating" is a lucrative business and people pay so that they can use trainers to cheat.
Oh, how society changes :)
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Mefris Elmek wrote:
the Savage Hippie wrote:
Frost Mage wrote:Does anyone know if you can open the console in Arena? I know that it's a DOS game and I don't know exactly how DOS works (never really used it). Thanks!
Oh, the generation gap. So you are going to make me feel old, huh, Frosty?
I remember the time when you would feel a massive achievement for getting a code to give you a meagre bonus or to make your games easier.
Hell,I remember the time when you didn't have a code console whatever.The game you got was the game you got.No console work-arounds to bugs,no self made god mode.Nothing.Just patience and hope that the next patch would fix your problem and give you something new.

Now I see "cheating" is a lucrative business and people pay so that they can use trainers to cheat.
Oh, how society changes :)
That's why we have consoles. ;)
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That's why we have consoles.
Hm there are still exploits on consoles.Oh and lets not forget that you can buy DLC that finishes the game and unlocks everything.
Thats still cheating in my book :)
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Why is this topic still being replied to? XP
The question's been answered.
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