The Great House of Indoril (Club/Faction)

[Veck]

Also: Gnisis IS NOT IMPERIAL LEGION I don't care if there's a fort nearby and a cult within the town, at most it's neutral or temple owned[/color]

I got the impression that the residents were mainly biased towards house Redoran, what with their support for the Temple, Redoran architecture and the Hetman there. Their names also suggest that they haven't changed much since the Resdayn times, as they're quite similar names to those of the Ashlanders.

As for why Indoril didn't venture into Vvardenfell, it was likely due to the Temple rule. When it was opened, they would likely have either seen it as a breach of the sacred Temple lands and refused to participate in the expansion, an act of the Empire who they didn't wish to collaborate with, or they may even have seen Vvardenfell as the lands of their enemies (House Dagoth/the Dwemer) and refused to lower themselves to their level or something. Or they may simply not have had the resources or need to try it.

[Velothi]

Also: Gnisis IS NOT IMPERIAL LEGION I don't care if there's a fort nearby and a cult within the town, at most it's neutral or temple owned

TR sees it as Redoran owned except whomever does the USEP maps tends to disagree.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:MW-map-Gr ... luence.jpg Complain to the USEP map-maker whom doesn't know what lands are.

I, also, see it as Redoran owned since Gnisis is a Redoran city with Redoran architecture and Redoran citizens.

And Tel Branora is on an island - not really traditional Telvanni territory.

So I suppose Indoril may threaten the Telvanni concerning Uvirith and Branora.


But here are some lore reasons.

For one, Indoril is a decaying House (at a much faster rate than Redoran but not threatened by another like Redoran. I mean Hlaalu taking Redoran lands? Blasphemy and death!), and therefore doesn't have much resources or men to supply this colonization.

At least due to Bethseda anyways.

Secondly, they'd be acting as Temple guardians than independent House-warriors.

Though our Indoril mod may include a lore-reason as to why Indoril is setting up territory in Vvardenfell; traditionally this colonization may cost Indoril quite a hefty coin.

It took just 5,000 drakes to build a Manor for any of the Houses with a construction Contract (except as a Telvanni), now imagine trying to build a city in a location where ash-storms are common and the land is in constant war between Telvanni-Ashlander-Dagoth and Redoran at times.

So it'll be a bit dangerous, but I think Indoril can defend itself pretty easily.

That and Ashlanders are only to be feared militarily in guerrilla warfare, during Ash-storms.

[OblivionDuruza]

Probably just a token player stronghold in Molag Amur, but quests involving Vvardenfell, as far as working with the Temple and strengthening it in the region, combating House Telvanni’s advancement? For the mod that is ...

[Velothi]

Yes, that'll do well.

Though we'll need to make a vote concerning how we'll implement it with Tamriel Rebuilt also doing House Indoril.

Perhaps we could ask them to use some textures and meshes?

[OblivionDuruza]

I guess so. I wouldn't worry too much about it now. Maybe after they release their Indoril concerned mods, they'll let others use them more freely, seeing as they wouldn't want anyone to steal their thunder, so to speak.

I think we should focus on one project at a time, at least for now, seeing as the UESP is not strictly a modding community, so there aren't a whole lot of modders around.


Edit: spelling

[Velothi]

And it seems Zombie didn't respond.

[OblivionDuruza]

Okay, I'll get in touch with him and report back to you. I'll also try to get in touch with Jingles and Goblin voice.

[Veck]

If you want, I can help with some menial tasks, like dialogue and cell design.

[Velothi]

Sure, you can work with me with this concerning Redoran/Hlaalu.

[OblivionDuruza]

If you want, I can help with some menial tasks, like dialogue and cell design.

That would be great. Perhaps you might be interested in this too?

[Velothi]

Question time!

Why did you join the Pious Great House of Indoril?

Do you support the Tribunal Temple?

Shall we attempt to relcaim our power?

[Chaos the N'wah]

1. Because it's the House of Nerevar, the House of Strong Dunmeri values, the House of charity, and not the four corners....
2. Yes/No, like the moral values, prefer the teachings of Saint Velothi and the Guidance of Indoril Nerevar
3. Let's, through the hearts and minds of our Dunmer brothers and sisters, we'll strive to raise our House from its squalor and into the Dawn of new beginnings

[Velothi]

My reasons for the first quest are the same as yours.

I wholeheartedly support the Temple, but do realize it is dogmatic and should be corrected on such dogmatic tendencies with self-criticism.

And I'm all in for a Indoril-Redoran re-grab of power from Hlaalu.

[Chaos the N'wah]

You'll always get a vote from me when it comes to Hlaalu bashing

[Velothi]

I think Duru might get upset with this Hlaalu hatred in an Indoril group run by a Redoran

[Chaos the N'wah]

We're quite the diverse group now aren't we?

I was tempted to join House Dagoth, but Indoril is more respectable....

[Velothi]

Would you endorse the Tribunal Temple in House Indoril teachings, or be more lenient like Redoran?

[Chaos the N'wah]

No leniency! It's what separates Indoril from other houses

[Velothi]

Then we shall have no substitutions!

[OblivionDuruza]

Why did you join the Pious Great House of Indoril?
Because House Indoril embodies all that make the Dunmer the great people that they are. House Indoril represents the traditional ways of the Dunmer and that which makes us unique. Plus, who doesn't love the idea of warrior priests?

Do you support the Tribunal Temple?
As an Indoril, most definitely, as me, I respect the Temple and would not oppose it, but I am not totally bound to it.

Shall we attempt to relcaim our power?
We should be more concerned with Vvardenfell (if we consider things from the time of Morrowind). Why is it that we do not have holdings there?

Would you endorse the Tribunal Temple in House Indoril teachings, or be more lenient like Redoran?
I dislike the use of the words "like Redoran" . Clearly the Temple and House Indoril are bound together. We are only shadows of ourselves, without each other.

Do you despise the Hlaalu haters?
Not so much as an Indoril, although I would like to see some more professionalism . We are House Indoril, not an offshoot of House Redoran.

[Chaos the N'wah]

The Lord of the Sacred City of Necrom is not Redoran, he is both Indoril and Telvanni...which is an oxymoron in a way..

[OblivionDuruza]

I know that, but clearly House Indoril is not House Redoran, *looks at Velothi*

Anyhow, this is kind of a random thought, but does House Indoril remind anyone of the Veni Yan from the Bones series of comics? (the only comics I've ever really read apart from Garfield)

[Chaos the N'wah]

Considering I've never read any of the Bones comics, I'd say no

[Velothi]

*Displays innocent holiness by a Tribunal triangle over his head. That's right*

We should be more concerned with Vvardenfell (if we consider things from the time of Morrowind). Why is it that we do not have holdings there?

Well we also have to consider Tamriel Rebuilt's House Indoril; though how would we make it so our mod is compatible with that and other mods?

Though I'm really anxious with Indoril.

[OblivionDuruza]

Why are you anxious dear High Lord?

Anyway, I've always wondered why there are no Indoril Greaves. Just an oversight, or is there a specific reason? There's a mod that fixes it, but I see Beth didn't remedy the issue, so maybe it wasn't a total mistake?

I guess the important Indorils ware Her Hand's Armour anyway.

Also, kind of random, but I noticed there are a lot of variations on Velothi Sheilds, and that there are two sacred shields of House Indoril.