What is that thing?

Ezkaton · Post by **Ezkaton** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:17 pm

I'm pretty sure its a Dunmer bc in the Skyrim issue of Gameinformer, it explains the player character chasing a dark elf bc he had stolen a golden claw relic of some sort

Elune · Post by **Elune** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:26 pm

I've lost my temper and I apologize. I'm not going to argue this further because I feel I've been inappropriate to the parties involved.

Jingles · Post by **Jingles** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:01 pm

The belt's clearly the same, you can see it from other angles in other screenshots. Clearly the wristguards are using the gauntlet slot, hence the Dragonborn in the trailer doesn't happen to be wearing any, just as he's wearing a different helmet.

And how isn't that a Dunmer's skin colour? Considering the wide variation in skin hues for Dunmer in Oblivion, I don't think you can argue that isn't the right colour at all. Doesn't look green enough to be goblin skin, on the other hand.

Anyway, logically speaking, it's more realistic, going by the available information to assume that's a Dunmer, given the current evidence, than to assume that Bethesda have randomly decided to turn goblins into NPCs, since there is no currently apparent reason for them to do this.

I'm pretty sure its a Dunmer bc in the Skyrim issue of Gameinformer, it explains the player character chasing a dark elf bc he had stolen a golden claw relic of some sort

This too.

Elune · Post by **Elune** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:05 pm

Jingles wrote:The belt's clearly the same, you can see it from other angles in other screenshots. Clearly the wristguards are using the gauntlet slot, hence the Dragonborn in the trailer doesn't happen to be wearing any, just as he's wearing a different helmet.

And how isn't that a Dunmer's skin colour? Considering the wide variation in skin hues for Dunmer in Oblivion, I don't think you can argue that isn't the right colour at all. Doesn't look green enough to be goblin skin, on the other hand.

Anyway, logically speaking, it's more realistic, going by the available information to assume that's a Dunmer, given the current evidence, than to assume that Bethesda have randomly decided to turn goblins into NPCs, since there is no currently apparent reason for them to do this.

I'm pretty sure its a Dunmer bc in the Skyrim issue of Gameinformer, it explains the player character chasing a dark elf bc he had stolen a golden claw relic of some sort
This too.

Why are you assuming it's an NPC? They're in a cave, quite simply it could just be a creature.

Post by **MARS** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:06 pm

Indeed, it could be a creature. We have no proof that the screenshot was taken in the dungeon mentioned in said article.

Jingles · Post by **Jingles** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:14 pm

Since it's wearing "people armour", for want of a better phrase, it's most likely (and I mean almost certain, really) the case that it's an NPC, even if that means in the sense that Dremora are technically NPCs.

The fact that it's in a cave makes it no more likely for it to be a creature than an NPC. Not sure what your point was there. There are caves full of bandits all over the place in both Morrowind and Oblivion.

Post by **MARS** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:16 pm

Well, we can't exclude anything. So let's not be so absolute with our opinions eh? It only creates tension and heated discussion. Heated more than it should be.

Jingles · Post by **Jingles** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:20 pm

Logic is on my side, I will bury you!

Spoiler:

Elune · Post by **Elune** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:50 pm

Jingles wrote:Logic is on my side, I will bury you!

Spoiler:

Logic isn't particularly on your side. All I have to say it's not a Dunmer and there's nothing you can do or say.

Post by **MARS** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:51 pm

mars wrote:Well, we can't exclude anything. So let's not be so absolute with our opinions eh? It only creates tension and heated discussion. Heated more than it should be.

The-Shadow-One · Post by **The-Shadow-One** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:03 pm

Mars.. just back out of the topic.. and dont let them scent your fear...oh crap O.O....

Post by **MARS** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:06 pm

I would like to remind you that it is my topic.

The-Shadow-One · Post by **The-Shadow-One** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:11 pm

....please remind me cuz i have the memory span of a gold.. what were we talking about?

Post by **MARS** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:13 pm

mars wrote:That thing.
What is it?

Kallan · Post by **Kallan** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:26 pm

If that is indeed a goblin... Why aren't it's ears pointy?

In all seriousness, I think it's neither a Goblin or Dunmer. I think it's to gangly and greenish to be a dunmer, and too humanoid to be a Goblin.

That is unless, of course, Bethesda have chosen to have more humanistic Goblins. They've been short and fat, they've been tall and skinny... Why not be in the middle now eh?

Qwackie · Post by **Qwackie** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:28 pm

I spy pointy Dunmer-ish ears, I think.

Spoiler:

At least, they look like pointy Dunmer ears. Either that, or that elf/goblin/thing needs a burger or the vampire cure or something.

Roadcone · Post by **Roadcone** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:17 am

Could we email Todd the god and get this sorted out once and for all?

Shadowscale · Post by **Shadowscale** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:00 pm

In my opinion the armour it is wearing seems to be too barbaric and brutal for a dummer and seems somthing that an orc or goblin would wear. And that thing is green and i don't think there are any green dummer so i think it's a goblin.

Jingles · Post by **Jingles** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:05 pm

Well as I've already taken great pains to point out, that armour is the same as the Dragonborn's in a bunch of other shots.

Plus I don't think the skin is any greener than this:

http://membres.multimania.fr/xboxgazett ... 01_800.jpg

In fact I think the above is greener.

Elune · Post by **Elune** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:26 pm

Jingles wrote:Well as I've already taken great pains to point out, that armour is the same as the Dragonborn's in a bunch of other shots.

Plus I don't think the skin is any greener than this:

http://membres.multimania.fr/xboxgazett ... 01_800.jpg

In fact I think the above is greener.

How is my comparision to an Oblivion goblin weak, but to you that comparision seems valid? Nice double standards there my son.

Post by **MARS** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:27 pm

Please stop this argument. Now.
Both a Dunmer, a Goblin, an Orc or something entirely different are equally probable.

Jingles · Post by **Jingles** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:47 pm

Malpais Legate wrote:How is my comparision to an Oblivion goblin weak, but to you that comparision seems valid? Nice double standards there my son.

You literally claimed the picture was like an HD version of a goblin beserker. The comparison by itself was not weak, but it was weak in comparison to the screenshots I posted, after which almost everyone, including yourself agreed that the cuirass was the same.

Here it's been claimed that the skin is too green to be a dunmer's when in actual fact Dunmer in Morrowind had, as I have illustrated with a screenshot, a skin hue almost identical if not more green than the image from Skyrim.

If I didn't know better I'd say you're just annoyed because I proved you wrong on the cuirass.

Elune · Post by **Elune** » Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:53 am

Jingles wrote:
Malpais Legate wrote:How is my comparision to an Oblivion goblin weak, but to you that comparision seems valid? Nice double standards there my son.
You literally claimed the picture was like an HD version of a goblin beserker. The comparison by itself was not weak, but it was weak in comparison to the screenshots I posted, after which almost everyone, including yourself agreed that the cuirass was the same.

Here it's been claimed that the skin is too green to be a dunmer's when in actual fact Dunmer in Morrowind had, as I have illustrated with a screenshot, a skin hue almost identical if not more green than the image from Skyrim.

If I didn't know better I'd say you're just annoyed because I proved you wrong on the cuirass.

Why would I be annoyed about being proven wrong? I admitted to being wrong about the cuirass. *Shrug*

The hue on the Dunmer you posted contains more blue than the "thing" in the screenshot for Skyrim.

HatofMadness · Post by **HatofMadness** » Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:55 am

Its a bird!
Its a plane!

...Its superman!!! ^_^

No really its just 2 characters sharing an intimate moment <_<....>_>

Elune · Post by **Elune** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:03 pm

The E3 trailer seems to show people aren't going to really look like our friend in the OP.

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