Dwemer presence in Skyrim?

Uncle Crassius · Post by **Uncle Crassius** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:48 pm

Did the dwarves ever inhabit Skyrim? I loved the Dwemer ruins/enemies in Morrowind and was sad to see that they weren't in Oblivion.

Veck · Post by **Veck** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:50 pm

They had fortresses in Hammerfell and Morrowind, but I don't think the Dwemer ever reached Skyrim. I guess they could always get a mention though. I'd personally like to see a Dwemer/Falmer hybrid set of dungeons.

JJSmart · Post by **JJSmart** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:28 pm

It'd be cool if they added an easter-egg dungeon with Dwemer stuff near the border with Vvardenfell. If nothing else, it'd be a welcome lore-fan-service little detail.

ch00_bakka · Post by **ch00_bakka** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:41 am

Maybe one or two, but no big presence like in Morrowind.

tobascodagama · Post by **tobascodagama** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:34 pm

I suspect the Falmer will play the same role as the Dwemer in Morrowind and the Ayleids in Oblivion. They may or may not actually be extinct, but we know for sure that their civilisation was destroyed by the Nords, which could provide some nifty ruins to explore.

Sonixboom · Post by **Sonixboom** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:50 pm

JJSmart wrote:It'd be cool if they added an easter-egg dungeon with Dwemer stuff near the border with Vvardenfell. If nothing else, it'd be a welcome lore-fan-service little detail.

that would be awesome.

-Sonix

tobascodagama · Post by **tobascodagama** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:53 pm

So, have you guys seen the newest Todd Howard interview from Game Informer? He explicitly says that the residents of Skyrim have inhabited ancient Dwemer ruins and built their cities there. Awesome. I loved the aesthetic of the Dwemer ruins in Morrowind, it'll be sweet to see them rendered with modern tech and mashed up with Nord-style architecture.

JJSmart · Post by **JJSmart** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:12 pm

tobascodagama wrote:So, have you guys seen the newest Todd Howard interview from Game Informer? He explicitly says that the residents of Skyrim have inhabited ancient Dwemer ruins and built their cities there. Awesome. I loved the aesthetic of the Dwemer ruins in Morrowind, it'll be sweet to see them rendered with modern tech and mashed up with Nord-style architecture.

There were also a couple of shots of a few posters on a wall, during that interview, that showed some pretty awesome cities, or parts of cities, from a distance.

Tulkas · Post by **Tulkas** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:30 pm

Yes, well, you could kind of see it coming. The presence of Dwemer structures in Skyrim, I mean. It wouldn't make much sense if the Dwemer only inhabited Hammerfell and Morrowind/Vvardenfell, the two places being on opposite sides of the continent. I guess you could get around it somehow, but this seems the most logical thing to do.

More Dwemer stuff, yay!

Chaos the N'wah · Post by **Chaos the N'wah** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:39 am

I wouldn't be surprised if there is a pretty strong presence of Dwemer structures, since the clan of Dwemer that left in self exile had to have crossed Skyrim to reach Hammerfell.

Rhcpftw · Post by **Rhcpftw** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:28 am

Considering that the centurion sentry, or whatever they're called (I'll just call them ball-dudes) are making a comeback from Morrowind, I'm fairly certain we'll be seeing Dwemer artifacts, cities etc etc. I'm just hoping we'll run into a real Dwemer. A healthy one.

It wouldn't make sense to have a mountanious region like Skyrim without a dwarven presence now would it, laddies?

JJSmart · Post by **JJSmart** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:10 am

Rhcpftw wrote:Considering that the centurion sentry, or whatever they're called (I'll just call them ball-dudes) are making a comeback from Morrowind, I'm fairly certain we'll be seeing Dwemer artifacts, cities etc etc. I'm just hoping we'll run into a real Dwemer. A healthy one.

It wouldn't make sense to have a mountanious region like Skyrim without a dwarven presence now would it, laddies?

Hmmm i'm not sure this could happen. Todd Howard said in a recent interview that he loves having mysteries in TES lore, and i believe he cited the dwemer as an example. I'd love to know all their story as well as finding one of them alive, but at the same time i think that keeping some things shrouded in mystery makes TES's lore feel so appealing and rich.

Rhcpftw · Post by **Rhcpftw** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:00 pm

JJSmart wrote:
Rhcpftw wrote:Considering that the centurion sentry, or whatever they're called (I'll just call them ball-dudes) are making a comeback from Morrowind, I'm fairly certain we'll be seeing Dwemer artifacts, cities etc etc. I'm just hoping we'll run into a real Dwemer. A healthy one.

It wouldn't make sense to have a mountanious region like Skyrim without a dwarven presence now would it, laddies?
Hmmm i'm not sure this could happen. Todd Howard said in a recent interview that he loves having mysteries in TES lore, and i believe he cited the dwemer as an example. I'd love to know all their story as well as finding one of them alive, but at the same time i think that keeping some things shrouded in mystery makes TES's lore feel so appealing and rich.

I agree, I love mysteries as well (except when they are like the ones in KOTOR 2 - ask 50 000 questions and answer three, and then never talk about it again. Ever.) but having that "last dwarf" in Morrowind didn't ruin it one bit, in my opinion. It actually just made me more curios.

LORD RALMAY · Post by **LORD RALMAY** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:37 am

yes the dwemer ruins were always fun to explore whats with the weird noise i am the only one tht hears that

Fist · Post by **Fist** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:26 am

LORD RALMAY wrote:yes the dwemer ruins were always fun to explore whats with the weird noise i am the only one tht hears that

Um what?

Anyway, I'm REALLY excited for the Animunculi (sphere guys) and other Dwemer artifacts. Its going to be cool seeing the people who live in the remnants of a Dwemer town.

Tulkas · Post by **Tulkas** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:36 am

Fist wrote:
LORD RALMAY wrote:yes the dwemer ruins were always fun to explore whats with the weird noise i am the only one tht hears that
Um what?

He probably meant the clanking sounds you heard all the time in the Dwemer dungeons of Vvardenfell. Lore is pretty clear on it, it's the steam-powered machinations of the Dwemer, still working - without maintenance - after thousands of years.

Fist · Post by **Fist** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:54 pm

OoOOoO Creepy. I'm looking forward to this in Skyrim, lets hope the machines haven't froze up!

Ugh, I feel so cheesy. Bleh.

Rhcpftw · Post by **Rhcpftw** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:10 pm

Who else would be the masterminds behind the dreaded Techno-viking?

thepigclub · Post by **thepigclub** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:22 pm

I would prefer Alyieds rather than Dwemer.

Eltee · Post by **Eltee** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:27 pm

It would be kinda cool if there was..dunno, a... like joined dwarven society, undergrond like the deep roads in (sorry, sorry, sorry) Dragon Age

that they constructed after the nords overrun them. The above ground ruins are like conduits maybe.

Post by **MARS** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:22 pm

LtGt72 wrote:It would be kinda cool if there was..dunno, a... like joined dwarven society, undergrond like the deep roads in (sorry, sorry, sorry) Dragon Age that they constructed after the nords overrun them. The above ground ruins are like conduits maybe.

Not a chance and that's a good thing.

Darth South · Post by **Darth South** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:08 pm

thepigclub wrote:I would prefer Alyieds rather than Dwemer.

It can easily be understood that you didn't play morrowind. Dwemers are way more cooler than ayleids.

talk page · Post by **legoless** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:47 pm

I'm hoping that we'll still get Falmer/Nordic ruins even though the Dwemer are back. I think each province should get its own ancient civilisation, not just rip off another one.
Hopefully Skyrim's ruins will be able to answer some of the questions left over from Morrowind about the disappearance of the Dwarves.

thepigclub wrote:I would prefer Alyieds rather than Dwemer.

I think it would make sense to have a few Ayleid ruins close to the border of Cyrodiil. With eight devs working on dungeons I'm sure we'll get a lot of variety.

River · Post by **River** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:00 pm

Darth South wrote:
thepigclub wrote:I would prefer Alyieds rather than Dwemer.
It can easily be understood that you didn't play morrowind. Dwemers are way more cooler than ayleids.

I have played both and prefer Alyieds. I prefer Old and mystical to old 'technological'. Ye olde technology kind of vibe always jars a little for me.

Trelares · Post by **Trelares** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:43 pm

I must say that I would like it most if there are not only 1 or 2 sorts of ruins. There could be Ayleid ruins near the border of Cyrodiil, near the border to morrowind there could be a few dwemer buildings, maybe one big city ruin and in the cold nord I hope for Falmer ruins and over the country destroyed castles and forts, maybe 2-3 ghost cities that would be a nice mix!

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