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Looking deeper onto the stone wall

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On the official website, we get to explore this large stone wall. I think that it hides a few clues of what is to come in skyrim. So here are a few pics
Here we have a dragon. There are two obvious dragons on this wall, but some are smaller and more hidden. I am 90% sure we will have dragons in skyrim
The dragon is setting fire to the sity - Take note the scale of the dragon to the city.
Look to the left of the man on the horse at the bottem right, it looks like some kind of undead lich? and to the left of him, after that weird looking thing, looks like a human breathing smoke.
Now - I thaught the people on the boat where kind of like civilians trying to get away from all this, but then I saw the skull on the boat. skulls = bad
Now, to the very left is the fire that the dragon in the first picture was spitting, I noticed that comming out of the fire, was what appeared to be yet another, yet smaller dragon.
Now, in the centerpeice, you see what looks to be a preist holding a torch, I am not sure what the thimg above the center is, but it seems to be yet another dragon.
To the right of the centerpeice, we have this evil looking thing, obviousley does not look like a nice person!
No the left of the centerpeice, we have a much more heroic looking person
And here we have "dragon born" According to most lore, dragon fire can melt every single type of metal known to man, so, why can his shield withstand it. Also note the odd shape of the shield, and that he appears to be in the blades armor
At the base of the dragon, we see a few skelitons kind of.. reaching out to it
Why would the dedric letter "o" be on there?
And here we have a large war. Some of these people look like undead beaings. now, what would the undead have to do with dragons? I have no idea. If we look at the top, we can see what looks like a line of dedric letters
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Might wanna put those pics in spoilers...
Good find, though I have nowt to say.
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Put the pictures in spoilers, takes ages to load for one and it makes scrolling through the page less of a hassle.

Thanks for the pictures btw, I was trying to use the websites wall to look at it but it wouldn't work for me properly.

EDIT: Made the pictures [url]links[/url] instead due to post stretching.
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I might suggest resizing the pictures if possible as well.
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I don't know if anyone else noticed but the Dagoth Ur's Numidium from Morrowind is also on the wall.

it is left of the Oblivion Gate or "o" or whatever that daedric letter is.
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Can someone please upload a resized shot of the part of the trailer with the old bearded guy in the middle, with two other figures either side, and what looks like a dragon curled up above it? I'd really like to discuss that part of the wall. I think there's a lot of interesting imagery there.

I'll talk about what I see in that image, and then give you my interpretation of what I see.

Firstly you've got the old man in the middle. This guy has a long beard and robes on, which makes me think he's either a powerful mage or priest. A nord by the looks of him.

The two figures either side look substantially different. I can't really make out much of the appearance of the figure on the left, but the figure on the right appears to have long flowing hair, and no beard. They also seem to me to have a slender frame, which suggests Mer rather than Man to me (I'll admit this could be a stretch).

Above these figures is what looks like a curled up dragon. If these three figures were simply battling the dragon, I'd expect to see more weaponry, fire spewing from the dragons mouth, and probably a different composition of the figures all together. Heroes would be on the left, and the dragon attacking from the right. A classic arrangement of hero vs villain that's shown later on in the trailer when the animated dragon breathes fire at Dovahkiin.

All this combined with the voiceover saying "Their defeat was merely a delay" at the time the image comes on the screen suggests that this image depicts how the people of Skyrim were able to defeat the Dragons the last time they attacked. It would appear to me that they somehow sealed the Dragons away somewhere with powerful magic, or perhaps even banished them to another plane.

Oh, and for another big stretch, what if that scene depicts a Nordic elder performing a ritual to banish the dragons, with two Falmer either side holding the Dragons at bay? What if the last remaining Falmer sacrificed themselves in the fight against the Dragons, and were banished alongside them?
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i can spot a few past events in the wall.

1. The Oblivion Crisis; the daedric letter that is supposed to look like a gate.

2. The half-way built Numidium: Dagoth Ur and the Sixth House's attempt to take control of Morrowind

3. The mage/old man in the center of the wall is I am guessing is Galerion.
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JockoBeans wrote:3. The mage/old man in the center of the wall is I am guessing is Galerion.
Or the Underking?
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Kestral wrote:
JockoBeans wrote:3. The mage/old man in the center of the wall is I am guessing is Galerion.
Or the Underking?
possible but it looks like Galerion's statue in Oblivion
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JockoBeans wrote:
Kestral wrote:
JockoBeans wrote:3. The mage/old man in the center of the wall is I am guessing is Galerion.
Or the Underking?
possible but it looks like Galerion's statue in Oblivion
Where?
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I was under the impression that the fellow in the center was a greybeard, one of the elders of Skyrim.
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mptrj wrote:I was under the impression that the fellow in the center was a greybeard, one of the elders of Skyrim.
Most likely.
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Hmmmm it was in one of the cities and I am trying to find it on the site here, but it seems I wll have to go home and find it myself on the game.

it could be a GreyBeard, but I was just speculating. it looks very similair
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JockoBeans wrote:Hmmmm it was in one of the cities and I am trying to find it on the site here, but it seems I wll have to go home and find it myself on the game.

it could be a GreyBeard, but I was just speculating. it looks very similair
There's a statue in Cheydinhal of an elderly mage, it doesn't specify who it is in the CS, though.
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Yes I believe in the dialog somewhere in the game it is mentioned as Galerion.

Yes it is Galerion check the Imperial Library.

But now that I look at it the mage on the wall might be a GreyBeard
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skittles wrote:Can someone please upload a resized shot of the part of the trailer with the old bearded guy in the middle, with two other figures either side, and what looks like a dragon curled up above it? I'd really like to discuss that part of the wall. I think there's a lot of interesting imagery there.
i cant get a complete image of that because it would not allow me to zoom out
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Some good stuff there, nice investigation, definitely going to bookmark this topic.
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maybe the Blades armor has something to do with this?
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theo1170 wrote:maybe the Blades armor has something to do with this?
Its the undead guys that get me
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Isn't there some guys in armour fighting what seems to be other guys in armor not undead things
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The Dragon Born has a halberd/spear/polearm in his right hand.
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seems more like a katana to me
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The 7nth one down makes me imagine a Tsaesci. :shock:
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Hey, I'm new on this forum.

But on-topic, I noted the two figures on either side of the 'priest' figure are also spurting flames from their mouths; possibly related to the Dragonborn? Or perhaps they just show that there can be variety to the player character.
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Blackfire wrote:seems more like a katana to me
The Dragon Born's sword looks more like a short broadsword to me.
ROFLcopter wrote:Hey, I'm new on this forum.

But on-topic, I noted the two figures on either side of the 'priest' figure are also spurting flames from their mouths; possibly related to the Dragonborn? Or perhaps they just show that there can be variety to the player character.
Those guys might be the Greybeards.
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