Morrowind Overhaul

[Velothi]

Would you say it's worth it to install?

It seems very tedious to do, and I'd rather have Morrowind's old textures. But it /looks/ interesting.

It's not worth it. Screwed up my Morrowind File. To the point I can't see the screen because I DON'T GODDAMN KNOW

[Dalos]

Tedious?
I remember the Morrowind Overhaul v3 using an installer.
Not tedious at all.

A fresh install of Morrowind, MGSOv3, and did as instructed here and I've had no problems.

Absolutely worth it imo!

[Velothi]

tedious when you're trying to figure out what you did wrong and re-do your entire morrowind set up.

[6thHouseBellHammer]

How does the installation of Morrowind Overhaul compare to something like FCOM or the Baldur's Gate "Big World Project"?

[Dalos]

From the single page MGSO install guide pdf.

Prerequisites
Make sure that ALL of these are met and everything will be fine.
Otherwise you’ll have to read through our FAQ and, believe me, you don’t want to do that unless it’s strictly necessary.

I guess reading the FAQ, if it's a screwed up install, would be tedious.

Install guide excerpt continued.

A clean Morrowind installation with its two expansions.

Clean means that if you have a previous version of the overhaul installed or a modded Morrowind you’ll have to reinstall everything.
If you have the steam version you’ll have to delete the local files and re-download the game.

It’s preferable to install the game OUTSIDE the Program Files(x86) (Windows 7 64-bit version) folder, otherwise you’ll have to grant Morrowind.exe administrator rights.

YouTube Link



@ 6thHouse Never used FCOM or played Baldur's Gate.
Maybe someone else has a clue?

[Velothi]

Ignore this

[OblivionDuruza]

What version are you trying to install? The 3.0 release comes with an automated installer that I found made the process much smoother. The graphical improvements are truly something, and I found that the sense of achievement that comes with simply installing the damn thing for the first time was worth the few hours I spent trying to get it all to work. What errors/issues have you encountered? (there are a few classics that I can help you with)

[Sadachbia]

After another reinstall of Windows (which, sadly, means another installation of Morrowind because Steam gets really confused otherwise), I've copied all my old data files (mods, textures, etc.) and reinstalled MGSO. Unfortunately, the Distant Land Wizard can't run because I get the following error:



Everything else in Morrowind Overhaul worked fine (well, once I got past an initial speedbump that kept popping up). I'm trying to reinstall whatever mods I can find, in case there's some piece of data that somehow didn't copy over from my old Morrowind folder (I just copied and pasted everything, merging folders where necessary), but some of the mods I have either aren't updated anymore (and the websites hosting them don't work) or they're on planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com, which absolutely refuses to load (keeps telling me "connection timed out").

Any thoughts? What else can I try?

[Dalos]

PES is dead.

Check Morrowind Modding History for the mods you need.
Lots of PES content wound up there.

[Snake]

I was disappointed when I found out about PES two or three months ago. I loved that site.

[Dalos]

I was disappointed when I found out about PES two or three months ago. I loved that site.

I remember spending time just looking through the mods on PES.
Hour after hour, just looking.
Good times.

Good thing that Great House Fliggerty has been able to archive so many of those mods at Morrowind Modding Hostory.

[Sadachbia]

While I'm downloading all the mods I can find at MWMH, does anyone have an idea what could be causing my error other than "a file missing somewhere"? (That's the extent of my troubleshooting ability. u_u; )

[Darkelfguy]

While I'm downloading all the mods I can find at MWMH, does anyone have an idea what could be causing my error other than "a file missing somewhere"? (That's the extent of my troubleshooting ability. u_u; )

You know, I do think I ran into this error before. It was the East Empire Company Expansion that was causing the problem, and that was because it had land really far away from Vvardenfell. I believe the Distant Land Generator can only handle land so far off from (0,0), but it usually isn't a problem, it's just that the East Empire Company Expansion builds it's land in cells like (210, 501) which is, well, not very close to Vvardenfell or even mainland Morrowind for that matter. It's actually a limitation of the Morrowind engine rather than MGE's fault, the farther out you go the more problems Morrowind has with generating terrain.

I'd recommend disabling East Empire Company Expansion if you have it, then generating distant land and re-enabling EEC only after the distant land is generated.

Of course if that isn't the mod causing the problem, could you post your mod list? I might be able to figure out which one is at issue.

[Sadachbia]

I don't have East Empire Company Expansion. Let's see if I can get MLOX up and running.

_001_ Morrowind.esm
_002_ Tribunal.esm
_003_ Bloodmoon.esm
_004_ Texture Fix 2.0.esm
_005_ Beauty_Pack.esm
_006_ SG-MW-ecology-BM.esm
_007_ Aduls_Master_Mod.esm
_008_ Hilgya the Seamstress.esm
_009_ MCA.esm
_010_ Poorly Placed Object Fix 1.2.esm
_011_ Poorly Placed Object Fix.esm
_012_ Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm
_013_ Morrowind Patch 1.6.5 Beta (BTB Edit).esm
_014_ abotWaterLife.esm
_015_ Poorly Placed Object Fix 1.2.esm
_016_ MW_Children_1_0.esm
_017_ Wizards Islands - Scourge of the Frost Bringer.esm
_018_ TR_Data.esm
_019_ TR_Mainland.esm
_020_ 20books.esp
_021_ mebridith.esp
_022_ chemwar.esp
_023_ Beds4Rent.esp
_024_ Healers.esp
_025_ Ash Mail Armor.esp
_026_ TribunalMaps.esp
_027_ HG_robe01.esp
_028_ MultiMark.esp
_029_ MultiMark_FiremothPlugin.esp
_030_ MultiMark_TribunalPlugin.esp
_031_ MultiMark_BloodmoonPlugin.esp
_032_ AdvTC_TribunalAddon.esp
_033_ MorrowindAnimalLootMod.esp
_034_ BloodmoonAnimalLootMod.esp
_035_ TribunalAnimalLootMod.esp
_036_ Clean Mystic Powder v1.1.esp
_037_ Suran_Underworld_2.5.esp
_038_ PSsorticon.esp
_039_ SirLuthor-Tools.esp
_040_ Barabus'Graveyard.esp
_041_ Unique Banners and Signs.esp
_042_ Better Bodies.esp
_043_ Emmas_Imperial_heads_1_0.esp
_044_ Clean_Necromantic_Robe_V2.esp
_045_ Emmas_breton_faces_1_0.esp
_046_ Complete Morrowind P2.esp
_047_ Emmas_redguard_faces_1_0.esp
_048_ Windows Glow.esp
_049_ Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp
_050_ emma_highelf_fem_v1_0.esp
_051_ Cali's_BB_V.2_Dryad_Dresses.esp
_052_ JEB_muffin_fix.esp
_053_ Complete Morrowind P3.esp
_054_ Barabus' fireplaces 2.esp
_055_ Dagger of Symmachus.esp
_056_ CMP5 Trib.esp
_057_ Complete Morrowind P5.esp
_058_ Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp
_059_ Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.esp
_060_ BadKarma's and Leeloo's Serenity V2.0.esp
_061_ Galsiahs Character Development.esp
_062_ GCD StartScript for Trib or Bloodmoon.esp
_063_ GCD better balanced birthsigns.esp
_064_ GCD Restore Potions Fix.esp
_065_ Eyren_armory.esp
_066_ Emma_Imp_headp2.esp
_067_ Ald Redaynia Extended COM.esp
_068_ A_flock_of_seagulls.esp
_069_ Emma_bret_headp2.esp
_070_ Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.esp
_071_ abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp
_072_ WA_Signy_Signposts(!).ESP
_073_ Clean Netch Adamantium Armor IIa.esp
_074_ sm_SSOP_Spidersilk_01.esp
_075_ Clothing Compilation I.ESP
_076_ Wizards_Islands_BM_Patch.esp
_077_ Better Skulls.ESP
_078_ Twilight_Flight_1.0.esp
_079_ Cobwebs3.4.esp
_080_ Particle Arrow Replacer.esp
_081_ Barnacles10.esp
_082_ Ash_Grasses_10.esp
_083_ Drinking Water.esp
_084_ Lilypads10B.esp
_085_ Grasses_unscripted_10.esp
_086_ Bones11-tb-bm.esp
_087_ Ivies_1.0_unscripted.esp
_088_ Psy_VGR_Armour.esp
_089_ Swamp_Scums_20_unscripted.esp
_090_ Ferns_10_unscripted.esp
_091_ Texture Fix - Silgrad Tower 1.0.esp
_092_ Moss_&_Vines_unscripted_10.esp
_093_ MA_snowprincetomb_v3.esp
_094_ Vurt's Grazelands Trees.esp
_095_ Acheron's Camping Gear 2.esp
_096_ AtmosphericSoundEffects-3.0-Tribunal.esp
_097_ Wizards_Islands_SotFB_Patch.esp
_098_ Clean Aradia's Needle.esp
_099_ KS_Ren's_Oblivion_Hair_for_Morrowind_1.0.esp
_100_ abotWindowsGlow.esp
_101_ Complete Morrowind P1 - Addon.esp
_102_ Emmas_dunmer_faces1_0.esp
_103_ ModMan's Gem Pack V1.esp
_104_ Moathouse.esp
_105_ Improved Inns.esp
_106_ MWE_Base.esp
_107_ Statue Replacer - Normal.esp
_108_ bones.esp
_109_ Apothecary' s Services.esp
_110_ abotWaterLifeTRaddon.esp
_111_ New Veloth's Judgement 2.esp
_112_ BadKarma's Anjurin Chest.esp
_113_ Shieldfx.esp
_114_ UAR_ChodalaBoots.esp
_115_ Scissors & Thimbles III.esp
_116_ Emma_orc_f_heads1.esp
_117_ emma_bret_heads3.esp
_118_ Book Jackets - Morrowind.esp
_119_ Book Jackets - Tribunal.esp
_120_ Book Jackets - Bloodmoon.esp
_121_ MA_Somnalius_plant.esp
_122_ SNR_ThievesStep_Standart.esp
_123_ Quick Char.esp
_124_ SG-MW-ecology-BM-plugin.esp
_125_ improvedbound.esp
_126_ Eyren_Robes.esp
_127_ Herbal Soap v1.0.esp
_128_ Cali_Dryad_Robes.esp
_129_ Clean BadKarma Dresses V1.0.esp
_130_ Ribald-Old.esp
_131_ OR_Fang.esp
_132_ OR_ForkH.esp
_133_ Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
_134_ NewBlood_MwTbBm1.1.esp
_135_ Clean BadKarma Clothing Vendor.esp
_136_ Fire Dancer Clothing by Leeloo.esp
_137_ The Jacket.esp
_138_ Texture Fix -TR -1.0.esp
_139_ MWE_Journal.esp
_140_ AdventurersTC_beta1.esp
_141_ Clean Minerals.esp
_142_ Clean Minerals (Tribunal&Bloodmoon).esp
_143_ Complete Morrowind P1.esp
_144_ Dragans Renaissance Clothes and more.esp
_145_ Sris_Alchemy_BM.esp
_146_ Special ingredients V1.esp
_147_ Neo's Unique Creatures.esp
_148_ EnragedWeapons.ESP
_149_ Syc_HerbalismforPurists.esp
_150_ CoM_Fix.ESP
_151_ Syc_HerbalismforPurists_BM.esp
_152_ Syc_HerbalismforPurists_TB.esp
_153_ Pearls Enhanced - Colored Pearls Add-on.ESP
_154_ Adhara's Dialogue Tweak.ESP
_155_ Pearls Enhanced - HFP patch v2.esp
_156_ Ribald.esp
_157_ MCA - TR Addon.ESP
_158_ Psy_IronMeshImprove_Uniques_BME.esp
_159_ BetterClothesForTB.esp
_160_ trial.ESP
_161_ LotsOfRingsPlus.esp
_162_ IceBradyHurdyRobeReplacerNYERUSSKIY.esp
_163_ correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.esp
_164_ TR_CensusAndExciseTravel.esp
_165_ Akaviri Seconds.esp
_166_ Bloated Caves.esp
_167_ WryyyClasses.esp
_168_ Graphic Herbalism.esp
_169_ Emma_highelf2.esp
_170_ Clean Lady Grey Boutique.esp
_171_ Cali_RTS_Fairy_Dryad_Addon.esp
_172_ Emmas_woodelf_faces_1_0.esp
_173_ ExcellentMagicSounds.esp
_174_ Emma_nord_heads.esp
_175_ Clean Official Plugins v1.1.esp
_176_ Silgrad_Tower_internal_build_1-4_3a.esp
_177_ almalexia armor.esp
_178_ Psy_UniqueDremora_T.esp
_179_ Alchemical Library.esp
_180_ More Better Clothes.ESP
_181_ Golden Gold.esp
_182_ Cali_StarstoneOutpost.esp
_183_ Animated Morrowind.esp
_184_ New Voices.esp
_185_ Sleepers, Awake!.esp
_186_ UAR_EbonySarano_v2.esp
_187_ guarskin_drum_replacer.esp
_188_ LeftGloves_Addon_v2.esp
_189_ UniqueFinery.esp
_190_ Complete ABC's.esp
_191_ Clean Ebonheart Interior Expansion.esp
_192_ WryyyyyyyyOld.esp
_193_ Alchemist's Services.esp
_194_ Cali_StarstoneOutpost_RobeTunicPatch.esp
_195_ Unique Jewelry and Accessories.esp
_196_ Corean_Hair_in_Morrowind.esp
_197_ TR_Alpha.ESP
_198_ UAR_Bloodworm_v2.esp
_199_ Hilgya the Seamstress Expansion 1.esp
_200_ sitdownandshutup.ESP
_201_ Clean MCFC_1.0.esp
_202_ imperial chain fix.esp
_203_ UF_HortRobeF001.esp
_204_ Vurt's BC Tree Replacer II.esp
_205_ Vurt's Leafy West Gash.esp
_206_ Raemanity V.2.esp
_207_ TLM - Complete.esp
_208_ New Bodies - Clean.esp
_209_ HFP_TamrielRebuilt.ESP
_210_ Wizards' Islands Super Patch.esp
_211_ DXM_masterindex_journalfix.esp
_212_ Seamless_BB_Falmer_Race.esp
_213_ Balmora Expansion v1.4+(1.4).esp
_214_ BE 1.4 -Golden Arrow fix-.esp
_215_ More Exquisite Clothes.esp
_216_ Westly's Master Headpack X.esp
_217_ Aduls_Clocks_and_Watches.esp
_218_ Better weaponz (rev1.2_DWEM)-nye.esp
_219_ Scissors & Thimbles.esp
_220_ Scissors & Thimbles II.esp
_221_ Gear.ESP
_222_ Female Armor - Complete.esp
_223_ Better Weapons and Armors.esp
_224_ OTR_Coast_Variety.esp
_225_ STA_guides_replacer.esp
_226_ Salts.esp
_227_ MW Containers Animated.esp
_228_ Better_Sounds.esp
_229_ MCA - Guards Patch.esp
_230_ House Raiments - Addition.esp
_231_ House Raiments - Replacement.esp
_232_ Clean Better Daedric.esp
_233_ stc_bloodmoon_ingredients.esp
_234_ stc_tribunal_ingredients.esp
_235_ Clean_Xia_Silk_Dragon_Imports_1.0.esp
_236_ Realistic Weapon WeightsOldCopy.esp
_237_ EnragedArmour.ESP
_238_ aldredamelatt.ESP
_239_ DungeonsNew.ESP
_240_ GimmeBackMyPants.ESP
_241_ NewSpawns.esp
_242_ somenewspells.esp
_243_ NewSpawnsFraserplants.ESP
_244_ Alchemical LibraryBigger.ESP
_245_ MoneybagsNonVanilla.ESP
_246_ firewatch landscape fix.ESP
_247_ Moneybags.ESP
_248_ Merged_Objects.esp
_249_ Mashed Lists.esp

Some of them are my own addons. I had all of these active before the Windows reinstall, and had no problems. (Hmm, I may have a couple duplicates, though. I know the Wizards' Islands Super Patch combines a few other patches, so there's no need in having that one AND the original mods active.)

[Darkelfguy]

From what I can tell, most of those are clothing and items mods, and I doubt those would be causing the problem. Out of the landmass mods though, I do see a bit of an issue. You have Wizards Islands, Silgrad Tower, and Tamriel Rebuilt all active, and both of the former conflict pretty massively with the latter (unless you're using some kind of special moved version of WI and ST). It might be possible that distant land is trying to render land for two landmasses in the same position, and that could be causing the problem.

Otherwise the only other issue I know of is that you're pretty close to Morrowind's hard 250 mod limit, and the game really doesn't handle that many mods all that well (unless you're using OpenMW).

[Sadachbia]

I know there are some issues with landmasses in the same spot, but as I mentioned, these all ran together before (and I'm pretty sure I have some kind of compatibility mod that moves things around a little). Distant Land generation worked fine on my last installation, and I'm not sure why it's running into this problem now.

[Sadachbia]

Argh, this installation is getting very problematic. If I try to run the game without doing anything (no updating saves with Wrye Mash, no cleaning files with TEStool—which won't run), it tells me "Clean Netch Adamantium Armour IIa.esp is not a valid esp file". I tried to download a replacement, but I can't find a CLEAN one, just the original, presumably tainted with evil GMSTs. And I can't clean it in TEStool, because even after re-downloading it (and that took extra work because its main host site was PES), it still exits to desktop immediately with the error message "TEStool has stopped working".

I haven't been able to use Wrye Mash; I installed it, twice, both the stand-alone version and the one that requires Python, but it won't run. I tried following the command line prompts the author suggests, since I know where both Python and Morrowind are installed, but either I'm doing something wrong or the installation is screwed up, because that never works either.

[Sadachbia]

I've also been getting this error anytime I try to manage the active data files: