Most disappointing artifact?

[Yaije]

The thing about this game, I've realized, is that anything can be a good weapon/armor piece if you can tolerate looking at it, and have the skills to improve it to match your leveling.

Yup, unless you're really trying to be picky (like matched sets according to the game or no [insert skill]) You can turn any 5-10 damage item into a monstrous 100-1k+ world ender. Though the short list of things that can't be tempered or enchanted (stuff is usually one or the other) would require more work.

[Raynil dralas]

I was pretty miffed you couldn't keep the skeleton key if you wanted to finish the thieves guild quest line.

[CBR JGWRR]

TBF, a perk in lockpicking has exactly the same effect.

[Hissien]

The Mace of Molag bal was a little is appointing because my ebony mace was stronger..... Also the armor from Miraak was annoying because you couldn't use be Mage armor perk but the armor itself was weak!

[Raynil dralas]

TBF, a perk in lockpicking has exactly the same effect.

People actually perk lockpicking?

[VirtualWeasel]

TBF, a perk in lockpicking has exactly the same effect.

People actually perk lockpicking?

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Uh, if you're actually roleplaying a thief, I sure hope so.

[BetaB17]

I do regardless<_< you'll be shocked how much it benefits even if you never steal. I treat it no different than smithing, the benefits cannot be ignored and the skill doesn't even need to be of focus<_<

[Yaije]

TBF, a perk in lockpicking has exactly the same effect.

People actually perk lockpicking?

Eh the +50% effectiveness for each rank of lock isn't half bad, neither is having it automatically put you near the success point. Overall though it's not a must have for me, but ranks higher than most of the armor and weapon trees (which I usually only put a few in to reach a single perk if at all).

[Raynil dralas]

I never perk lock picking and Ive never had any issues opening anything, its the biggest waste of perks I can imagine.

[Yaije]

Really depends on build. Because you're not handed keys to every locked door and chest you will need to use lock picking for stuff at some point.

Worth more than 2h weapons when you're a 1h specialist definitely.

[Raynil dralas]

Really depends on build. Because you're not handed keys to every locked door and chest you will need to use lock picking for stuff at some point.

Worth more than 2h weapons when you're a 1h specialist definitely.

The lockpicking skill levels up just fine naturally over the course of the game and Its more than enough to tackle most locks just fine without perks. And lets be honest by late game you have loot coming out the wazoo so its not like you miss much by not picking every lock you see.

[Raynil dralas]

we're going off topic now though.

I was disappointed with keening, its way nerfed compared to morrowind.

[BetaB17]

I have to give a crack at Horksbane<_< really it's just a fun easter egg if anything.
Same thing with Aetherial Staff>_> bloody useless staff if you ask me, can't compete with the crown

[Yaije]

Really depends on build. Because you're not handed keys to every locked door and chest you will need to use lock picking for stuff at some point.

Worth more than 2h weapons when you're a 1h specialist definitely.

The lockpicking skill levels up just fine naturally over the course of the game and Its more than enough to tackle most locks just fine without perks. And lets be honest by late game you have loot coming out the wazoo so its not like you miss much by not picking every lock you see.

Still doesn't make it worth less than the primary combat skill your character doesn't use. DW for 2h etc.... why take both

[Raynil dralas]

Really depends on build. Because you're not handed keys to every locked door and chest you will need to use lock picking for stuff at some point.

Worth more than 2h weapons when you're a 1h specialist definitely.

The lockpicking skill levels up just fine naturally over the course of the game and Its more than enough to tackle most locks just fine without perks. And lets be honest by late game you have loot coming out the wazoo so its not like you miss much by not picking every lock you see.

Still doesn't make it worth less than the primary combat skill your character doesn't use. DW for 2h etc.... why take both

what im saying is lockpicking is a waste of perks regardless of you're build, sure I wouldn't waste perks on combat skills im not using but if I did a different build I would. Id never waste perks in lockpicking though, even if i was role playing a lock smith I wouldn't do it

[Finn Wolfshorn]

Seconding Knight Captain Kerr on page 1, Savior's Hide was a huge disappointment (although it does look cool, and I'm sure it's been modded to make it more viable); my first character never forgave himself for killing that poor chap for nothing but a crappy armour which he replaced just a few levels later.

[Raynil dralas]

I never actually got the saviors hide as I heard how sucky it was and non of my characters could bring themselves to kill that guy to get it.

[wyldefx]

I have to agree with the notion that most Daedric artifacts are useless. Ebony sword is one of the worst. Even upgraded, a good two handed sword beats it, and by then you have no allies left to help you, as you'be killed them all to beef up the sword. And Skull of Corruption. Actually, the only Daedric weapon improved over Oblivion is the Wobbajak. Now THAT is a sad commentary on Skyrim. I intended to make a mod to beef up the Daedric stuff but never got around to it yet.

[CBR JGWRR]

TBF, a perk in lockpicking has exactly the same effect.

People actually perk lockpicking?

Sure, why not. My altmer is level 122 thanks to the legendary skills feature, she's already perked out all the skills she uses or might use once for a laugh, why not perk lockpicking...

[Raynil dralas]

TBF, a perk in lockpicking has exactly the same effect.

People actually perk lockpicking?

Sure, why not. My altmer is level 122 thanks to the legendary skills feature, she's already perked out all the skills she uses or might use once for a laugh, why not perk lockpicking...

I rarely level a character beyond 50 or so because I enjoy, you know, playing the game properly instead of being a cheesy OP god.

[Musicman247]

Please stay on topic.

Umbra was the biggest disappointment for me. Not being in the game and all.

[CBR JGWRR]

That's because Umbra no longer exists.

One thing I've realised - the weakness of the daedric artefacts is actually a big joke on their part, allowing them to amuse themselves watching a demi-god carry out pointless tasks for little or no award.

[Yaije]

I almost wish we could cast them back into the world and maybe see them used against us... or see npc'd fight over them.

[Hissien]

So I guess I'm the only one who liked the skull of corruption's dream stealing abilities?

[Kerr]

Here are the Daedric Artifacts I found useful on my last character:

Azura's Star, Masque of Clavicus Vile (I think it's as good as a Daedric helm and it looks really cool with the right armour), Ebony Mail (until I got something better), Oghma Infinium (Although I prefer to just keep it for aesthetic reasons), Ring of Hircine, Mehrunes' Razor, Dawnbreaker, Skeleton Key (But I gave it up pretty quickly), Sanguine's Rose and Wabbajack.

The ones I didn't use were mostly things like blunt weapons, shields, two handed, light armour. Things my character wasn't using anyway. So really I found lots of the artifacts pretty useful.

I said Saviour's Hide was the worst is because even when I played a light armour using character it was outclassed by even basic light armour.