Can the next elder scroll live up to skyrim's beauty?

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Re: Can the next elder scroll live up to skyrim's beauty?

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Evil-i wrote: Lucky you. I have never found the Thoyota Thundra in Skyrim.

But seriously, I don't quite understand how you can gush over Skyrim's rich and varied landscape, and then claim that a desert land would be even more spectacular. Just head up to Skyrim's northern snow wastes and imagine them in beige, and then imagine an entire map like that. Yes, deserts have a certain bleak beauty, but I don't think I'd enjoy an entire landscape of starkness.

Oops, typing error. I meant Tundra. Well I chose the desert for one reason. It's majestic. I'm sure vast areas of sand would look pretty cool just like vast areas of snow covered plains. I was hoping they would do something like a mirage. You see something and when you go there it disappears! Not to mention the quick sands, sand storms and oasis that we can find. Don't get me wrong forests are good when you have a birds eye view. But when you're inside one, all you can see is the next tree. Which would be pretty much the same as the previous tree. The reason I like Skyrim so much is the unobstructed view most of the landscape offers. I mean you can see for miles. See a ruin in the distance and wonder what it is.

And this thread wasn't really about graphics. It was about the beauty of the landscape. No matter how good the graphics is the creepy swamps that we may find in Black marsh at least for me will not be as good as the mountains and plains of Skyrim. :)

Having said that, I wouldn't mind visiting Elsweyr :) It also has some desert right? I've been itching to play a khajith and I think they would look great in their natural habitat.
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Re: Can the next elder scroll live up to skyrim's beauty?

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Elsweyr has jungles, too. That could work to break up some of the desert landscapes.
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Re: Can the next elder scroll live up to skyrim's beauty?

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I think we're in danger of sending the wrong message to the developers. Personally, I wouldn't much care where the next ES game took place.

The important things to keep reminding the devs of are that they really should do some serious work on producing a much less bug-ridden product, and that they really must develop their talent for story telling. Main quests and guilds/factions must be made more interesting, compelling and need to be fleshed-out better. Above all, they need to make sense, unlike Skyrim's CoW mess-line.

Threads like this tell game studios that we are concerned with fluff and eye candy above all else. I'd rather have more steak and less sizzle.
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Re: Can the next elder scroll live up to skyrim's beauty?

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Evil-i wrote: Threads like this tell game studios that we are concerned with fluff and eye candy above all else. I'd rather have more steak and less sizzle.
I'm not seeing it. We have a plethora of other threads devoted to these other topics, and even a stickied thread concerning glitches. This thread tells Bethesda that we really liked the look of Skyrim, and we'd like to see it matched, if not outdone. That's not a problem.

Personally, I think Morrowind and Skryim were about equal. Obviously not graphically, but aesthetically. Both were very wild lands and had a unique feel to them. Oblivion was quite drab to me, despite the almost blindingly bright color scheme, because it was very tame. There weren't a whole lot of places that absolutely stunned me with design, whereas Morrowind and Skyrim were breathtaking throughout. So I'd love to see more exotic locales in the next game, and I think Skyrim's beauty will be easily matched.
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Re: Can the next elder scroll live up to skyrim's beauty?

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I still stand by my convictions.

Shivering Isles at night, best landscape Bethesda has ever developed, not just Elder Scrolls or even Fallout. The cosmos illuminating the night sky, butterflies dashing across the sky, and those luminescent bugs (fairies? what ever the hell they were) that danced in the moon light puts any scenery to shame.

It just sucks that it had to come before Skyrim, and the next gen graphics.
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Re: Can the next elder scroll live up to skyrim's beauty?

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Alinor has so much raw potential as from what we have heard in the lore, it is a magical place filled. It would be interesting to see what it looks like under the Dominion's rule as well as seeing the ruins of the crystal tower. I'm picturing the entire island stinking of magicka and robes being the most common form of clothing. As well as magical plants everywhere. And the odd explosion caused by a mage who's experiement has gone wrong.
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Re: Can the next elder scroll live up to skyrim's beauty?

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I have always felt drawn to The Black Marsh. From what i read about it in, in games books and the two (damed) novels by Greg Keyes, it is one of the most exotic and interesting places in the Tamrial.
I can just imagine diving to the cities down deep in the swampy lands, which can only be reached with water breathing.
This would be one of the most incredible natur experience i could imagine.
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Re: Can the next elder scroll live up to skyrim's beauty?

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Hissien wrote:I'm more worried nothing will be able to top the great forest of cyrodiil. Those redwoods are the best landscape of any elder scrolls game for me.
I totally agree....I found the Skyrim lands too boring, too much snow. In Cyrodiil, if you want to see snow you go to Bruma, if you want swamps then Leyawiin, beach then Anvil. And of course, nothing compares to the big Imperial City, perhaps only Vivec city is bigger...
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scribbane wrote:
Evil-i wrote: Threads like this tell game studios that we are concerned with fluff and eye candy above all else. I'd rather have more steak and less sizzle.
I'm not seeing it. We have a plethora of other threads devoted to these other topics, and even a stickied thread concerning glitches. This thread tells Bethesda that we really liked the look of Skyrim, and we'd like to see it matched, if not outdone. That's not a problem.
Exactly. They already know about the bugs and what we did and didn't like about the game in technical aspects or story aspects. This is more for the scenery than game play.

Yeah most probably it will be Black marsh. I wonder when it will release though. Not in 2014 I think :(
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Re: Can the next elder scroll live up to skyrim's beauty?

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*sigh*

You guys just don't get it. Pontificating over the location of the next game is pointless. It sends Bethesda the message "We forgive you, we can't wait for more, and we're prepared to lap it up, no matter if it's the typical Beth bug-fest." They need to be reminded constantly that they need to pull on their big-boy developer pants and bolt things together in a much more professional manner.
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Re: Can the next elder scroll live up to skyrim's beauty?

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I'm sure the next true Elder Scrolls game with have great scenery. I'd personally love to see Elsweyr or Valenwood, but I think any of the provinces we haven't seen in full will be stunning.
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Re: Can the next elder scroll live up to skyrim's beauty?

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Evil-i wrote:*sigh*

You guys just don't get it. Pontificating over the location of the next game is pointless. It sends Bethesda the message "We forgive you, we can't wait for more, and we're prepared to lap it up, no matter if it's the typical Beth bug-fest." They need to be reminded constantly that they need to pull on their big-boy developer pants and bolt things together in a much more professional manner.
Well said man....No more "rain of mammoths" or deer...we need quality, better quests despite the graphics...
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Re: Can the next elder scroll live up to skyrim's beauty?

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Evil-i wrote:*sigh*

You guys just don't get it. Pontificating over the location of the next game is pointless. It sends Bethesda the message "We forgive you, we can't wait for more, and we're prepared to lap it up, no matter if it's the typical Beth bug-fest." They need to be reminded constantly that they need to pull on their big-boy developer pants and bolt things together in a much more professional manner.
imo the sales figures constantly remind them the fans do , in fact, forgive and forget

unofficial patches ftw!

I would like to see Elsewheyr next time out, the Thalmor have laid a huge buzzkill factor on my desire to see Summerset isles (unless its in this dlc and i get to invade)
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