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I killed Vierra Lerus at Bravil got one serious question

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:04 am
by hata
So i started yesterday and started doing thieve missions and you know how they got the pay to get away with murder at half price well i killed the captain of the bravil guards lol. and i saved it before i killed her and toke her armor so i ran to the inn and paid the thief and i dropped all my things that i stole the keys and everything then i a guard came and said the usual things but, it was meant for arresting me so iam like hell yeah and it worked i went back in and picked up all my items SO MY QUESTION IS IF SHE IS IMPORTANT IN THIS GAME WILL SHE RESPAWN AGAIN? CUZ I SEE HER BODY LIEING NAKED WHERE I KILLED HER EVERYTIME I COME BACK TO THE CITY[/u]

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:55 am
by Vook
you're sick. I wonder if your mom knows you're playing the M-rated game.

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:07 am
by Ginnyfizz
Oh dear. If you haven't already done the MQ, you just wasted one of your best allies in a certain big fight. I don't think she will respawn - the generic guards do, but don't think she will. Nor do you deserve for her to.

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:36 am
by hata
Omg. o well i well have to start off before i killed her =) good thing i have it saved already man that sucks i want to kill Lex so bad he is a big jerk and take his cool looking armor for my level 2 without entering the codes.

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:40 am
by bmwsedee
I doubt it is possible for a level 2 character to kill a Guard Captain at all... Hoe did you do it with the Bravil girl anyway?
Aren't the guards supposed to be 10 levels higher than you are?

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:48 am
by cadahnic
At level 3 I was killing guard captains. a little poison and the right sneak attack and down they go. If you are smart at level two you will catch them while they are sleep, take their weapon and then sneak/poison attack and by the time the get up and put on their armor you have pretty much won the battle.

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:54 am
by Ginnyfizz
bmwsedee wrote:I doubt it is possible for a level 2 character to kill a Guard Captain at all... Hoe did you do it with the Bravil girl anyway?
Aren't the guards supposed to be 10 levels higher than you are?
Good point, and Hata, I'd suggest the Dark Brotherhood instead, you do (minor spoiler) get to kill a guard captain. But no, it isn't Lex, and no, you don't get his armour. Lex does feature in later Thieves Guild Quests. Mind you, sounds like you could be a bit undisciplined for the DB, you'd probably face the Wrath of Sithis right away.

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:54 am
by hata
omg lol i just looked up the code i have to enter to bring her back omg i love the PC version!

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:12 pm
by bmwsedee
So tou are using codes to bring people you murdered back to life, but you don't wanna use the codes to give yourself some nice armour?
How's that for logic?

Hmm

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:48 pm
by i9ub
Using the console to get armor severely imbalanced the game and makes an already easy game even easier. This makes the game less rewarding and in the end less fun.

Using the console to bring back a key player in the main quest that you have killed unknowingly just allows you to play through the main quest as it was intended to be played.

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:14 pm
by hata
bmwsedee wrote:So tou are using codes to bring people you murdered back to life, but you don't wanna use the codes to give yourself some nice armour?
How's that for logic?
Well, becuz i will only do cheats if necessary you know its gay if you get all armor cuz everyone will die so fast and get something like Dagger of
Woe (the one with all the buffs it can have on it) it makes the game less rewarding like that guy above my post just said GAMES ARE FOR FUN lol sure i like cheating but on a RPG? lol and its single player! lol i want to have some fun.

Hmm

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:21 pm
by i9ub
Yeah its not even like you get to pwn noobs if you cheat. In SP games, the only loser is you. :wink:

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:54 pm
by Akela
bmwsedee wrote:So tou are using codes to bring people you murdered back to life, but you don't wanna use the codes to give yourself some nice armour?
How's that for logic?
It's called thirst for blood. A bit puerile methinks.

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:29 am
by Ginnyfizz
Akela wrote:
bmwsedee wrote:So tou are using codes to bring people you murdered back to life, but you don't wanna use the codes to give yourself some nice armour?
How's that for logic?
It's called thirst for blood. A bit puerile methinks.
Well yes, if you just go wiping out folks indiscriminately and kill off quest characters . My char is DB Listener and still has only 28 murders on her record. And has not been caught for a murder because she is so sneaky. Like I said, even the DB doesn't go for random mass slaughter, although my Listener, officially retired from active assassination, still likes to keep her hand in and wouldn't have got where she is today without being rather bloodthirsty.

If you're really desperate for nice armour and don't want to console it in, tackle Umbra!

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:20 pm
by ScamIam
I killed Umbra at a really low level with the minor fireball spell I got from the Skingrad mage quest.

She got stuck in some kid of circular pathfinding loop and I rained down fireballs from the balcony with my right hand while drinking wine with my left.

The armor is really nice for a low level character, and I am still using the sword at 24th level.

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:25 am
by Wouldntyouliketoknow
alright....youll love my story.
I was doing the ultimate heist and when i was in the palace (where the monk sits and you hit the lever for the door) the monk turned and i hit "talk to blind moth monk priest"!!!! grey fox wouldnt do anything and when i REDID everything in the sewers i got to the secret door under the statue and it said "this door cannot be picked. you must have a key."!!! so the key is gone and the grey fox does jack [&@%!] to help....even going through the front door requires a key! being on an xbox 360 i cant console the theives guild quest line down and my saves are all after i escaped the palace!
if you want more detail look for the thread i made "Wtf! Plz Help! the ultimate heist!" it says everything you need to know
so now i had to start a new character cause i couldnt go farther iin the theives guid :( :cry: :cry: :(

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:02 am
by Akela
Skade, my first char murdered Umbra in cold blood and she still feels very bad about it. The armour served her well until she could collect and enchant daderic stuff and she still keeps the sword. However, Umbra's stuff is unfortunately (?) far too heavy for my frail little Breton girl.

Armor

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:15 am
by i9ub
Akela wrote:far too heavy for my frail little Breton girl.
This armor is perfect for a Breton girl. 8)

Image

Ahh

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:16 am
by i9ub
Ahh... attack of the giant picture.

*Edit* Fixed *Edit*

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:23 am
by Ginnyfizz
My little Breton girl wears heavy armour often, as she is a battlemage, although as she thinks Daedric is so fugly she stuck with the Blades kit until she got the Imperial Dragon gear. These days she usually wears the Black Hand robes and hood for their substantial stats bonuses, which as she is already Master of several of the skills they boost, makes her a pretty mean opponent.

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:09 pm
by Akela
Hmm I feel a strong urge to start a fashion thread, but I need to take some screenies of my girls first. I have a good pic of Skade on my blog, but that place doesn' offer much reading. How could it. I'm gaming or surfing this forum almost every free hour. :D