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A few ideas to make UESP more active...

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:36 pm
by Ayoub
Suggest ideas you have for the UESP forum here, assuming grand ruler daveh reads it.

I'll start...

- Merge Redguard, Daggerfall, Arena, Travels, and other 'dead' forums together. Only Arena gets the occasional post every few months by some n0ob asking where to download it. Keep Oblivion and Morrowind as they are, though.

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:45 am
by ace62394
Shouldn't you post this in the UESP site forum?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:57 pm
by Vesna
Why not just make the request on Daveh's user page? He is much more likely to get there first. But yeah, I agree the other topics are dead.

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:30 pm
by Jeff
Reducing the number of Forums may make things neater looking, it would make finding Specific Game related Topics more difficult. I think it would be best to keep it the way it is. Although, it is Daveh's decision, and a valid suggestion.

Vesna has a good point, as Daveh doesn't check here much, as running the Wiki is very time consuming. Although Nephele does check here more often, and she might pass it on to Daveh.

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:22 pm
by Nephele
I'd say this is probably the best place for a discussion about reorganizing the forums; it's why this particular forum was created in the first place. Keeping the discussion here allows the forums community to contribute more easily than a discussion on Daveh's wiki talk page. And with issues like this, it is really the community's decision that matters; Daveh needs to implement the change, but he doesn't necessarily want to make the decision unilaterally based only on his own preferences.

As for merging the forums, my opinion is that I don't think it's necessary. The topics are clearly separate topics, with basically no overlap in content. Forum members who are interested in Arena may have absolutely no interest in Daggerfalll, and vice versa: why force members to sort through unrelated threads unnecessarily to find the question they're looking for? The organization is also more similar to the wiki's organization where each game gets its own namespace.

But that's just my opinion, and I'm clearly not a regular forums user. I'd say it's more important to hear what the rest of the community thinks.

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:10 pm
by weka
I like it as it is. It's clear, concise and lacks ambiguity.

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:05 am
by Vesna
Wow, I think we jinxed the forum. In the same day we had this discussion someone posted in the Battlespire topic.....Now, someone start a thread titled "Money does not fall from the sky!"

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:29 pm
by Magnus
I try. ;)

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:56 pm
by Ayoub
Ok, here are my ideas. To put it simply, I think this is how the index should look

General Discussion
-Announcements
-General
Elder Scrolls Game Discussion
-Older TES Games
-Morrowind
-Oblivion
Elder Scrolls Modding
-MOD-General
-MOD-Morrowind
-MOD-Oblivion
UESP
-UESP Site

And then you could add other forums, such as Console discussion, Other games, etc....?

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:35 pm
by Vesna
Are the extra Arena/Daggerfall topics really such a pain to look at? Or are you complaining because you actually have to scroll down to click Oblivion?

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:25 am
by Ayoub
Vesna wrote:Or are you complaining because you actually have to scroll down to click Oblivion?
Yes, yes I am.

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:49 am
by Ayoub
Well, my monitor is on an extremely high resolution, so they both fit on one frame, but its the moving of the mouse up and down that bothers me. :cry:

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:23 pm
by Ayoub
HUZZAH! The solution is here!

Image

MUHAHAHA! :Twisted Evil:

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:24 pm
by Codex
Sorry, but I don't get the whole point in changing the layout on the forum. Improvements are fine, but imo the forum is fine as it is.

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:39 pm
by Daedra Prince
codex wrote:Sorry, but I don't get the whole point in changing the layout on the forum. Improvements are fine, but imo the forum is fine as it is.
Agreed. How would the Morrowind die-hards like it if someone wanted to merge them with Oblivion after TES 5, 6, 7, 8 & 9 clutter up the board?

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:53 pm
by Vesna
Well, I doubt there will be a computer in production or outside of an antique store that will be able to run MW after TES 5 6 and 7 come out.

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:04 pm
by Daedra Prince
Vesna wrote:Well, I doubt there will be a computer in production or outside of an antique store that will be able to run MW after TES 5 6 and 7 come out.
Well I can play Arena on Vista so....

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:06 pm
by Vesna
I'm playing Arena on DosBox. What's your point?

However, you nowadays can't go out and buy a Windows 95 to run Arena.

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:12 pm
by Daedra Prince
But in 10 or so years there will be a XP-box or something to allow people to run XP era games so there will be computers that can play it as well as all the old consoles sitting in cupboards and attics.

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:25 pm
by Ayoub
Well, I just thought that by making this forum more Oblivion-Morrowind based, and adding subforums related to each (like TES fanart, fan fiction, etc...) and some other, specific non TES related forums like Lifestyle forums etc... we could get people posting more....

Just my opinion for the day I guess.

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:37 pm
by Jeff
Why do people need to post more?

There is nothing wrong with the forum. If it is not broke, don't fix it, as there is nothing to fix.

This board was a test, and was not expected to really go anywhere. It is, and always has been tied to the Wiki. It was a place to discuss things going on with the Wiki. Then it became a help Forum, unintentionally, which was a good thing. People who dug into the game, to make the Wiki, would be here, and who better to give help. None of those people still post here anymore. :cry: The few exceptions are those of us who stuck around to make the Board an even better Help/Hint Forum. There are only about 4 of us left.

It was never inteded to be a fanboy site, to discuss your favorite weapon, or how to build a <insert Class> character. This was one of the reasons the "General Forum" was changed. To make it easier for people to search the Oblivion Forum, for help, and not have to wade through Favorite Weapon Topics.

Fortunately, some very awesome people stopped by, and hung around. The Board has become more of a Social Place, but still with the Main Point of Helping Others.

People post what they feel like posting. People post when they have the time. You can not cohearce people into posting anymore than they do.

Some people already post more than they should. If people do not have antything to add to a discussion, then they should not comment. There is no benifit to having a High Post Count. You do not become a mod by having the highest post count. Post Flooding is annoying, and clutters up the important stuff. It is a reason for not ever, ever becoming a mod. It was one of the reasons I was against the Rankings. I wanted to actually have Post Counts HIDDEN, so everyone was on the same page.

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:54 pm
by Ayoub
I know that there's more than enough posting on the forum, its just that it doesn't look as active unless you've been here for a while, because only about 3 (and sometimes a fourth) forum is active, with the rest being close to dead; it looks like wasted space.