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Daggerfall freezes when getting temple quests

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:16 am
by FrozenWolf150
I've searched around and have found similar crash glitches, but none under these specific circumstances. I joined the Temple of Stendarr and am trying to do a few quick quests for them to build up my experience. However, I've found that after the quest giver heals you, the game will lock up 50% of the time, forcing me to hit Ctrl+F10 and manually close DOSBox to get out of the game.

At first I thought it was due to the quest fix mods I installed, but I haven't found any evidence that they cause new crashes where there were none before. Then I thought it was due to running out of memory, but even when I took the "objmemsize 9000" line out of my Z.CFG, it still happened. I know some glitches, like the movement keys not working, can occur if you set your DOSBox cycles to "auto" or "max" so I set it to "auto limit 50000" which seems stable enough for everything else, but the freeze still happens.

The only way I've found to get around this is pure random chance, by reloading my game, talking to the quest giver again, and hoping he gives me a quest that doesn't immediately lock up the game. Does anyone have any advice for this?

ETA: I suppose I should mention. The first quest I took for the temple was "The Heretic" where I had to investigate the false prophet. Since my reputation with the lover's faction was zero (this was a new game) and I had exhausted all other options, including exploring the dungeon, I decided to wait for the quest to advance on its own. According to the wiki, a courier is supposed to deliver a message within 21 days. To pass the time I did some traveling, as part of the main quest, but the courier never came. I ended up failing the quest without realizing it. However, when I spoke to the quest giver at the Temple of Stendarr, he didn't inform me that I had failed the quest, he just gave me a new quest. Failing the quest did still impact my reputation, as the priest at the door (the guy who takes donations) rebuffed me when I tried to talk to him. I had to donate 2000 gp to raise my reputation before he would talk to me again.

The first crash came immediately after I talked to the quest giver after failing that quest. I didn't like the quest he gave me, so I reloaded my save and tried to get a different one, and that's when the game locked up.

Re: Daggerfall freezes when getting temple quests

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:01 pm
by Gilarius
Have you tried running Fixsave on your saved game?

Re: Daggerfall freezes when getting temple quests

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:27 pm
by FrozenWolf150
Gilarius wrote:Have you tried running Fixsave on your saved game?
I'm not sure how to use that utility. It asks me to insert the Daggerfall CD. I already told DOSBox to mount the directory containing all the CD information as the CD-ROM drive, but Fixsave doesn't recognize it, even though this setup does allow me to run the game as if the CD were there.

Re: Daggerfall freezes when getting temple quests

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:43 pm
by Crawldragon
The copy of fixsave that came with version 213 doesn't ask me to insert a CD :wat: What version of the game are you running--the official download off the Bethsoft website, UESP's download, or other? If "other," where did you get it and by what method did you install it?

Re: Daggerfall freezes when getting temple quests

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:20 pm
by Gilarius
If I remember correctly, you can get all sorts of error messages if you simply run fixsave without specifying the file you want fixed; I seem to remember that it works by dragging the file you want fixed onto the Fixsave .exe, although I might be mixing up two different things!

Re: Daggerfall freezes when getting temple quests

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:52 am
by FrozenWolf150
Crawldragon wrote:The copy of fixsave that came with version 213 doesn't ask me to insert a CD :wat: What version of the game are you running--the official download off the Bethsoft website, UESP's download, or other? If "other," where did you get it and by what method did you install it?
I'm running the version that comes with TES Anthology, which is installed off a CD. Prior to that I had been running the one from Bethesda, I think. However, the version of Fixsave was the one downloaded from the link on UESP. It's Fixsave version 175, and the .exe has a creation date of 4/23/1997.

ETA: I started a new game after installing DOS32A and the crash with temple quests didn't occur again. So I'm thinking it was likely a memory issue.