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hi there . i have problem in the fighetrs guild quest : hist tree .

i went to blackwood company hall and the khajit called me traitor and they attacked me . i killed them but they cant be killed . i attack ja fazir and i see message : Ja fazir is uncounsious . anybody has this problem ? i think they shouldnt be uncounsious cause in the mission i must kill them all

Try reloading a savegame before you talked to Ja'Fazir.

Snake33 wrote:....cause in the mission i must kill them all

Actually you don't have to kill any but the ones in the basement.

but i must get a key from ja fazir , so i must kill him , but he is uncounsious . anyway if they attacked me i must kill them but they are essential

I always just got the keys by pick-pocketing. Poss helps to get their disposition up first as well.

well , i pickpocked ja fazir and i got the key but when i ry to unlock the jetum ze door the message shows that i must find a key cause doors wont opened LOL . and when i go in blackwood hall and they attacked i cant ill them !

PLEASE HELP

I think the key in in his desk or it is on the guy on the very top level took me a bit to find it too

Take the key to Jeetum-Ze's room from Ja'Fazir's body.

Enter Jeetum-Ze's room and kill him. Get the key to Ri'Zakar's room from his body.

Enter Ri'Zakar's room and kill him. Get the key to the 'Blackwood Company Basement' from his body.

They are not supposed to be essential. I am not sure what problem you have there. They may have been essential, so that they would not die until this quest. Somewhere, you might have missed a stage, that would trigger them to be made Non-essential, or the script didn't take effect.

if i finished the quest they will die ? i cant only kill the first three enemies . thanks a lot guys

Spoiler....

There are two Blackwood employees in the Basement that you must kill, and then when you leave the Basement, the guy from the Fighter's Guild will attack, and you need to kill him. Other than that, it's optional, depending on how you like to play, if you kill anyone else at Blackwood company or not.

If not, you can still call in to visit them whenever you're in Leyawiin.

true , yes . but anyway i kill the others and now i m a master . going to furnish the bruma house and maybe buy house in skingrad . but still i dont know how to put nicely books on the shelves with telekinesis

Snake33 wrote:but still i dont know how to put nicely books on the shelves with telekinesis

You can just hold items without Telekinesis, which allows you to move items without putting them in your inventory (although if you still get reported as if it's stolen if it's owned property) - see here for how. Use that to decorate your house. Might take a while though.

Placing books is a pain. It was difficult enough in Morrowind, but in Oblivion it's almost impossible. There are mods, but not any good ones.

it takes time and practice I have filled one book shelf in Rosethorn hall and it took me a good amount of time to place about 15 books

Hmmm... never tried to place books to shelves.got to try