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Faendal...

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 6:08 pm
by Vahrukiv
Why do I always find him dead on new games?

It's a brand new game, I haven't activated the vampires yet, or anything, and yet still he's dead.
Right in the center of Riverwood, just... dead. WHY?!



Oh well, time to start over. :/

Re: Faendal...

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 6:34 pm
by Just_Mad
Firstly, this upsets me greatly, secondly, when you say new game, are you literally just leaving Helgen and arriving at Riverwood, or just haven't been to Riverwood yet, after having played since leaving Helgen

I ask, because to my knowledge, the vampires attack cities regardless of you having started dawnguard, though it might be a level requirement trigger, I know that Durak only spawns at level 10+

And I assume by 'I always find him dead' part, this has happened multiple times, but is it always the same character that you keep reloading, or each and every new character?

R.I.P Faendal :'(

Re: Faendal...

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 6:35 pm
by Frost Mage
I assume it's the same thing that killed the "crazy" lady talking about dragons in Riverwood. Maybe a random encounter gone wrong. ;o;

Re: Faendal...

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:51 pm
by Aarah
MadAndyD wrote:Firstly, this upsets me greatly,

R.I.P Faendal :'(
I get the feeling you're a Faendal fan. I too have spent many a quest with the blonde ponytailed elf. Ah, a sad loss indeed Vahrukiv.

Re: Faendal...

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:01 am
by Pilaf The Defiler
He's usually the first follower I take and survives well into the game. It's sad when I lose him but I've never found him dead at the very beginning. Sounds like a horrible bug indeed.

Re: Faendal...

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:13 am
by Finn Wolfshorn
Had him as a follower on my first Breton pure mage and sent him home after a few dungeons because I didn't want to be responsible for his death. I feel your pain.

Re: Faendal...

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:11 am
by Alarra
If you have Dawnguard, and are on PC (not sure if you can do this on Xbox), maybe turn off Dawnguard for a while until you're ready to fight vampires? (If you don't know how to do this, on the main screen where you can click play, options, etc., click "Data Files" and then uncheck Dawnguard).

Re: Faendal...

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 6:36 am
by Frost Mage
Alarra wrote:If you have Dawnguard, and are on PC (not sure if you can do this on Xbox), maybe turn off Dawnguard for a while until you're ready to fight vampires? (If you don't know how to do this, on the main screen where you can click play, options, etc., click "Data Files" and then uncheck Dawnguard).
I think you'd have to completely uninstall Dawnguard for that to work.

Re: Faendal...

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 9:05 am
by Belthazor
Frost Mage wrote:
Alarra wrote:If you have Dawnguard, and are on PC (not sure if you can do this on Xbox), maybe turn off Dawnguard for a while until you're ready to fight vampires? (If you don't know how to do this, on the main screen where you can click play, options, etc., click "Data Files" and then uncheck Dawnguard).
I think you'd have to completely uninstall Dawnguard for that to work.
No reason to uninstall it. Whether you don't have it installed or simply not loaded makes no difference to the game.

I encountered a dead Faendal in one of my games, too. Came right out of Helgen, Riverwood was my first stop and he was lying there dead on the road in front of Lucan's shop. Reloaded a save from when I came out of Helgen Keep, went to Riverwood again and he was alive.

Re: Faendal...

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:19 pm
by soda popinski
Sven must have spotted him checking Camilla's oil and went into a fit of rage

Re: Faendal...

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 8:16 pm
by Just_Mad
Aarah, I think 'fan' is a little too weak of a statement :)
I once had to reload a save some 2 or 3 hours back, purely because he fell in battle, too precious.

I'd have to ask the OP again, is this a recurring problem, and can you *holds back tears* cope with it?
I suppose ultimately it's either going to be a one off, or a recurring glitch, and either way your progress is based on whether or not you want to continue with out this pointy-eared incarnation of Green Arrow/elderly Legolas. Whichever you want to call him :)

Re: Faendal...

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 9:35 pm
by JaggedyJack
I have had this happen to me as well even before Dawnguard came out. I didn't see him when I first arrived at Riverwood however after a nights sleep I go out and behold that he is dead in the middle of Riverwood. I couldn't for the life of me think of any event like a Dragon or something happening while I slept but it ruined that game for me and I started over. Kinda heartless how everyone in town just walked by him not even caring, just buisness as usual.

Re: Faendal...

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:38 pm
by Mr.Argonian
I have encountered this as well, I think I read somewhere Sven gets into a fight with Faendal and one will end up dead.

Re: Faendal...

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:48 pm
by Aarah
I think once a day you should be able to use a resurrection spell to restore a fallen comrade. For those times when youve just spent ages in battle, finish in triumph, then notice your followers dead.
Its so sad seeing that ' search Faendal' text that you see when looting just a stranger. Did you manage to fix the problem Vahrukiv?

Re: Faendal...

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 3:16 am
by Alarra
Frost Mage wrote:
Alarra wrote:If you have Dawnguard, and are on PC (not sure if you can do this on Xbox), maybe turn off Dawnguard for a while until you're ready to fight vampires? (If you don't know how to do this, on the main screen where you can click play, options, etc., click "Data Files" and then uncheck Dawnguard).
I think you'd have to completely uninstall Dawnguard for that to work.
No, you don't, because that's what I did for my second character, Ganvar. I just turned off Dawnguard and Dragonborn before starting him, and haven't seen/heard anything from those expansions.

Re: Faendal...

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:23 am
by Vahrukiv
MadAndyD wrote: ...when you say new game, are you literally just leaving Helgen and arriving at Riverwood...
Yeah, as in following Ralof/Hadvar into Riverwood from Helgen Keep.
MadAndyD wrote: ...the vampires attack cities regardless of you having started dawnguard
I'm almost positive it's level specific.
MadAndyD wrote: And I assume by 'I always find him dead' part, this has happened multiple times, but is it always the same character that you keep reloading, or each and every new character?
Yeah, this has happened multiple times, all new games, all new characters, all starting at the opening ride into Helgen. (But, it doesn't happen every game, just 1 out of every 5 games.)

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Alarra wrote:If you have Dawnguard, and are on PC (not sure if you can do this on Xbox), maybe turn off Dawnguard for a while until you're ready to fight vampires? (If you don't know how to do this, on the main screen where you can click play, options, etc., click "Data Files" and then uncheck Dawnguard).
I play on Xbox, so that wouldn't work.


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Sorry for not responding sooner. I was... preoccupied.
And also, i went ahead and started another new game yesterday, and he's alive and well.

Re: Faendal...

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 5:14 am
by Marelo
They start at level 8. I really doubt this happens because of vampire attacks. It's likely an unrelated bug.

Re: Faendal...

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 5:24 pm
by CBR JGWRR
But they aren't likely to occur until level 10 or later.