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I say maybe include a few old Nords with Thuu'm power, but that is it.

i could see a quest to "learn one" but it w2ill be treated as magic mabye (unless they 100% reamp the magic system

They could also use it as a greater power for nords..

Say that the Dragon Language is the true language of the gods, and not Dragon specific.

What makes you think we'll be playing as a Dragonborn in TES VI?

And yes I know that regular people can learn it, too, but it takes them years just to master a single word.

they could easily implement it by allowing characters to choose "dragonborn" as a trait or starsign, and then having npcs or quests allowing the learning of some shouts. They would be 'just' another major power in the game - it desnt matter if they were there instead of racial powers or stone powers or zodiacal powers - however they would need to be linked with the character for his/her entire life, ie no swapping this for another power mid game, if you are dragonborn then you are committed to that.

i dont think i'd like shouts in other games cos i prefer each TES to be unique and of itself, and i kind of like each game to have a reality of its own, so theres no levitation outside morrowind, no sigil stones outside cyrodiil, etc

Mattbott wrote:i dont think i'd like shouts in other games cos i prefer each TES to be unique and of itself, and i kind of like each game to have a reality of its own, so theres no levitation outside morrowind, no sigil stones outside cyrodiil, etc

Exactly. I can't really see Shouts being used in the next game without pushing it lore-wise. Bethesda will probably find some new implement that's unique to the main storyline and setting of TES VI, and I'd be on board with that.

I think Dragon Shouts worked for skyrim , but i hope they arent present in TES VI .

dont misunderstand , i do like dragon shouts , but i think they only suit Skyrim , and they shouldnt put them in any more games .

In fact , i dont think your character should even be originally part of a legend , i think you should make your way into the legend

The Dragon Shouts add nothing unique to the game. Removing them from the series will have little consequence.

legoless wrote:The Dragon Shouts add nothing unique to the game. Removing them from the series will have little consequence.

I agree that removing would have little effect (on me at least)

but they are in a way , unique
as no other game gave you the ability to do some of the things Dragon shouts let you do , like slowing time , or summoning whole storms

Cardbird wrote:Except that, you know, everything(Important) is in an Elder scroll.

philfredobob wrote:I think Dragon Shouts worked for skyrim , but i hope they arent present in TES VI .

dont misunderstand , i do like dragon shouts , but i think they only suit Skyrim , and they shouldnt put them in any more games .

In fact , i dont think your character should even be originally part of a legend , i think you should make your way into the legend

Except that, you know, everything(Important) is in an Elder scroll.

I know that , i said the legend , as in i think that while you are mentioned in the elder scrolls , the public and most people wouldnt recognize your prophecy , your legend , thats what i meant

None did in Oblivion, ARENA, or DAGGERFALL

Uh, Eternal Champion, anyone? I think they knew about Jagar Tharn, and how I blew him to pieces. Now Daggerfall and Oblivion, I call those the "Bethesda just gave you the middle finger" games. I mean, they even made you die in Daggerfall, and then made it cannon. Come on!

Wolfie wrote:None did in Oblivion, ARENA, or DAGGERFALL

I KNOW !

I want them to do it Again !!!! that is my point !!


Also i like what daggerfall and Oblivion did , not every hero is remembered perfectly , and most heros stories dont end happily ever after

The Thuum barely adds anything unique. It is pretty much magic for warriors who don't invest in magic skills. Ganted they can be usefull for mages and thieves, dragon shouts are most usefull to warriors. Of all the dragon shouts about 5 are usefull and unique. I feel it is a one time game mechanic, specific only to Skyrim and will be removed in TES:VI.

Br3admax wrote:I mean, they even made you die in Daggerfall, and then made it cannon. Come on!

You didn't die in Daggerfall. "Activating Numidium" by yourself isn't possible. The Warp in the West lore has little to do with the actual game.

I think we should keep the idea and gameplay mechanic of an ancient power associated with a particular culture, but it shouldn't be the Thu'um.

Here's an example. In Hammerfell there's this concept called Sword Singing, a form of spiritual magic. Masters of Sword Singing imprint their knowledge on memory stones. These could be collected by the player, and wind spirits or something could be defeated for their souls. You could then learn the Sword Song, and use it with a similar mechanic to the Thu'um, with the R1 trigger, with a cooldown.

Similarly, there could be a hero in Elsweyr who could access the hidden powers given by the phases of the moons by finding Moon Stones or something, and ingesting variations of Moon Sugar dropped by boss enemies.

See what I'm getting at here? They wouldn't be restricted to a certain race, but they would be associated with certain cultures.

I agree the protagonist of a elder scrolls game should be legendary. But Skyrim legend is dragon born I doubt the next elder scrolls games is in Skyrim but each legend in each elder scrolls game should have a power or something.

I think you all missed an important point:

Musicman247 wrote:And yes I know that regular people can learn it, too, but it takes them years just to master a single word.

I seriously doubt the PC will have the knowledge behind learning the thu'um in any way to make it plausible in an upcoming game. Unless you are Dragonborn (which you won't be), you would have to have invested years of singular study into even mastering the utterance. Besides, even in Skyrim, outside of the PC and the Greybeards (and their students, who admittedly aren't many), who else uses the thu'um? No one. Perhaps the appearance of dragons would reunite some vigor in the study, but even so, it's not a skill as easy to learn as the sword. It would take decades to perfect...decades that you probably didn't have.

Bethesda is nice in that they don't often recycle major hooks and powers like that. You're a Nerevarine once, a Champion once, a Dragonborn once. Let TES 6 bring you something new and fresh!

Uhmm, Champion twice.

Okay, twice, but in different concepts, times, and places. You know what I mean.

Im sick of being a legendary dude though , i want to go back to Oblivion styel , and build my own legend without any spiritual abilitys ..

i always feel like a cheater when i use the Thu'um ..

philfredobob wrote:Im sick of being a legendary dude though , i want to go back to Oblivion styel , and build my own legend without any spiritual abilitys ..

i always feel like a cheater when i use the Thu'um ..

the Emperor chose you in Oblivion because he was told you were important in a dream, in Morrowind as well you were the reincarnation of a saint

so i think being a hero is a doom all TES characters must bear.
imo the dragonborn thing was explored very well in Skyrim and has clarified a lot to me about the nature of the septim line and how nordic mythology shaped the empire, but i agree now its out there you would need a very good excuse to include it in any other games, whether they were mmorpgs or TES n+1. Having said that, i wouldnt mind meeting an npc or villain (or even a lich/dreugh in another game with a couple of shouts - lol perhaps a 'the thing' flavoured easter egg, where a remote coastal outpost finds an iceberg which floated all the way from Skyrim/Solstheim containing a body, which thaws out .. etc)

So nobody likes my idea?

About re using the mechanic but changing the lore to match other provinces? Because I really like the special moves idea, just not re-using the Dragonborn thing. It would be forced at best. It fit in Skyrim, but not anywhere else.