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Just wondering if anyone else would like to see an elder scrolls game done in the same vein as games like Shadowrun (SNES version) & Deus Ex. i personally would love the mix of machine guns & mauls, ghosts & gadgets and such. Any thoughts?

I just cant seem to imagine a futuristic Elder Scrolls game.

i'll admit there arent many free-roam games that include guns apart from the GTA series and such... but an elder scrolls shoot-em up, in my opinion that would suck so bad.

hey bradleemilk,

I did not mean an elder scrolls shoot-em up, you can play that right now on Oblivion by using only your bow & spells. I was just thinking of a change of scenery. I think that a cyber punk setting could be an interesting spin-off, maybe like Cyber Scrolls or some such. The way I would piture it, guns would only proform the same actions as bows do now and I think most other things could be merged into a future setting.

I see what you are saying, but I think that the time period and scenery of the Elder Scrolls games are what make it so cool. A cyber punk sort of future game would be very awesome, but I just don't think it would be a good Elder Scrolls game.

Whatever it is, the next one should be set in the whole of Tamriel. I will accept no less.

There is a German game like that. It is a cyber punk MMORPG. I think that a future Elder Scrolls could be great or horrible. It would have to be online. Like MMORPG!

Quiglesigles wrote:There is a German game like that. It is a cyber punk MMORPG. I think that a future Elder Scrolls could be great or horrible. It would have to be online. Like MMORPG!

Hey Quiglesigles,

you don't happen to remember the name of that game do you? sounds good.

I don't think I explained myself very well with this post. I did not want the next elders Scrolls game to be futuristic (totally agree with you, r), I was just interested to see if anyone else wanted a futuristic game with Elder Scrolls playability. I play alot of other games of the same genre, which are apprently open ended but none compare to the Elder scrolls in my opinion for playability, depth, re-playability and polish. All the rest are just pretenders to the crown.

I think it would be really interesting to see bethesda working outside their comfort zone on different genre's. Maybe their could try a fuedal china or european setting. I guess what I am saying is that Bethesda has reached the peak of the industry with the elder scrolls series and I am just asking the question that if they can acheive this high standard game within the fantasy genre, what could they do in a different setting.

Rave off.

Shaithys wrote:

Quiglesigles wrote:There is a German game like that. It is a cyber punk MMORPG. I think that a future Elder Scrolls could be great or horrible. It would have to be online. Like MMORPG!

Hey Quiglesigles,

you don't happen to remember the name of that game do you? sounds good.

I don't think I explained myself very well with this post. I did not want the next elders Scrolls game to be futuristic (totally agree with you, r), I was just interested to see if anyone else wanted a futuristic game with Elder Scrolls playability. I play alot of other games of the same genre, which are apprently open ended but none compare to the Elder scrolls in my opinion for playability, depth, re-playability and polish. All the rest are just pretenders to the crown.

I think it would be really interesting to see bethesda working outside their comfort zone on different genre's. Maybe their could try a fuedal china or european setting. I guess what I am saying is that Bethesda has reached the peak of the industry with the elder scrolls series and I am just asking the question that if they can acheive this high standard game within the fantasy genre, what could they do in a different setting.

Rave off.

Yes, it would be great if Bethesda, or any other s/w company could match the open-ended playability of Oblivion.

This game, as great as it is has ruined me for all others, including 'Gears of War', which, although it has its merits, is still linear and closed, in that you have to move where ever the programmer intended you to move, in order to advance to the next level. Even something like being forced to walk down a set of stairs, instead of jumping off a balcony [&@%!] me off about other games. There was complete freedom of movement within Oblivion, and I could do quests, or not do them, as I saw fit, and still I was able to advance within the game.

No doubt about it - Bethesda has raised the bar with the whole open-ended concept of Oblivion and any new RPG game will have to measure up to that.

r wrote:Whatever it is, the next one should be set in the whole of Tamriel. I will accept no less.

You'll accept less. If they release new content for Oblivion, or an entirely new game based on the Elder Scrolls series you, and I, and everyone who's ever played Oblivion will buy it, and you, and I, and everyone else knows that!

Besides, covering the whole of Tamriel again with an acceptable level of 'density' would require some kind of random generator, like in Daggerfall. Which means, in order to produce enough different stuff to create the illusion of it not being random ( ie, not ten identical towns next to each other ), it needs to have a *lot* of different components to assemble into random towns/NPC/quests/etc.

Which means, exponentially harder to avoid weird, unexpected outputs.

Not that I think its impossible to do, but I'd rather they focus instead on working the kinks out of RAI, so that they can actually implement it without the world dying in a wave of blood and fire.

Personaly i think that an Elder Scroll MMPORPG would kill a lot of the great aspects of the game that we all enjoy, take WOW for example they had to make factions so everyone would kill each other. Imagen a game where you could kill anyone and your loyalties were only to yourself and if you die the game ends for you but contiues for others. It would be nice that you and your friends and your friends friends and your friends friends friends could come together and play the game with each other. The world would have to be much bigger, i too would like to see all of tamerial. The dugeons could be a little bigger and more faction quests would be nice. It would also be nice with those friends to form factions with each other and start faction wars. I think that a game where theres a smaller amount of people would creat a very unique experience. The kind of play would produce lies, murderer, lust (ok mabey not lust...), power struggle, assassination, misleading to the weaker. Imagen a friend comes over and gets [&@%!] at you and the next day, on the way to the imperial city Arean your ambushed by 5 assassins. That game would kick ass. I mean seriously choosing to become an assassin and live underground only coming out to kill and get payed by those who have people 'in the way.' Or choosing the path of the noble worrior and starting a guild of those like yourself. Perhaps you would anger rogues with your shivlerish additude and at one of your guild meetings your suddenly sword to sword with the same rogues you [&@%!] off. Personaly i think that people would shame WOW addicts with the amount of thier life they waste playing, i personaly would be putting in A LOT of hours.

mandangalow wrote:
Personaly i think that people would shame WOW addicts with the amount of thier life they waste playing, i personaly would be putting in A LOT of hours.

Why would you consider it as 'wasting their lives playing WOW', compared to spending time playing Oblivion, or any other game?

How much time playing Oblivion would you put in, before someone accused you of 'wasting your life'? You would put in 'a lot of hours', as you indicated, but that wouldn't be considered a waste?

Why suggest that anyone else 'wastes' anything, be it their own time/lives, by playing anything - 'Worlds of Warcraft', or 'Oblivion', or anything else?

I use the word waste as a joke, seriously man chill. Not to mention the fact i said id be one of the people playing a lot. Im not trying to poke fun at people who play the game relgiously, i myslef probably have played far more oblvion than you. Really, was that nessacary? Do you need to be that defencive? My bad if that [&@%!] you off.

mandangalow wrote:I use the word waste as a joke, seriously man chill.

I am quite chilled, thanks to Winter's hold. Seriously, man, perhaps you should articulate your views more efficiently then, because it's easy to get a different impression from what you write. Chill chill chill chill...

mandangalow wrote:I use the word waste as a joke, seriously man chill. Not to mention the fact i said id be one of the people playing a lot. Im not trying to poke fun at people who play the game relgiously, i myslef probably have played far more oblvion than you. Really, was that nessacary? Do you need to be that defencive? My bad if that [&@%!] you off.

I'm not defensive, nor did you [&@%!] me off. But, it's clear enough from your retort that it's you who's being defensive. Chillllllllllllllllllllll

I don't really care about futuristic games, I like Elder Scrolls as they are. I woulden't mind a post-apocalyptic, but such can still be medival.
But I think it would be awesome to come to Skyrim... i'd like if Bethesda made a skyrim-game (Skyrim for Oblivion, Yaay!). But again, i adore snow and cold tempratures.

I think a futuristic (or similar) game done in the style of Oblivion would be good. I wouldn't like it ina future Earth as that would be boring, but somewhere with a lot of imagination.
The classic warhammer games roleplaying game did a similar thing with warhammer 40k.

I think it would have to be careful not to fall into being a 'shoot'em up' and stay being an adventure style game.

Has anyone played the Jedi knight game? I've never seen the gameplay but someone described it once as being a bit like this with freedom of movement and quests etc. Only using lightsabres instead of swords.

I've played several of the jedi knight games. The maps are quite large, which makes it possible to walk around quite a bit. But it's not like you discover new places and such, like TES series. But it's entertaining games, and the moves and saberattacks are awesome. The MP is also very nice. Well worth a try.

Looks like I will get want I wanted with Bethesda taking the reigns with Fallout 3. Looks bloody awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

a cyberpunk game in the style of oblivion could be great, mostly because that entire genre has become passe and needs a breath of fresh air...seriously, when's the last time you played a truly killer cyberpunk game that wasn't tabletop? i don't think bethesda would ever take the risk.

Let's see....

There is no way we're getting Tamriel in 200 years to be that much more technologically advanced than Tamriel 200 years ago. Seriously, the intelligence level of the residents of Tamriel are way too low. Besides, there is no such thing as reproduction organs in Tamriel, so there won't be any people to be living in 200 years. You'd have to wait for the Gods to make more people. Hopefully they'll be smarter.

In sum, without being retarted, I don't see it to be probable.

ALSO, we're all wasting our time right now, if you haven't noticed.

Elder Scrolls will be the same setting I think, but why already thinking about it... Next one coming around 2009-2010... Bethesda is working on Fallout 3, wich many Elder Scrolls fans should like too.

instead of a futuristic oblivion, what would it be like if the map was ALL of Tamriel, not just the different parts but all of them together, imagine all the quests and all the people

Son of Sithis wrote:instead of a futuristic oblivion, what would it be like if the map was ALL of Tamriel, not just the different parts but all of them together, imagine all the quests and all the people

Imagine the hardware you would need to run it.