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Skyrim Footage, not leaked, by Todd Howard

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:58 am
by Frogmander
This material be leaked, eh. You may or may not have seen this footage, it is similar to the demos but has quite a bit more content (40 minutes worth, while the demos only have about 25 minutes worth) plus it has the crowd included so it is funny to hear them be like "MURDER ZE CHILDREEEEEEEEN"

Re: Skyrim Footage, not leaked, by Todd Howard

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:00 am
by Kestral
This hasn't been posted already? It was pretty wide-spread.

Re: Skyrim Footage, not leaked, by Todd Howard

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:33 am
by Pobatti
You sure that's not leaked?

Sometimes these sorts of events are not intended to be filmed. I haven't seen past the first few minutes yet, so it could be really obviously ok - just thinking about the possibility this could be another problematic clip before I disappear for a while to watch.

EDIT: What I mean to say, it looks like amateur footage from someone in the crowd with a concealed video camera. Bethesda could consider these videos an infringement too. Unless they've officially stated otherwise, we have no way of knowing that Bethesda were cool with the event being filmed and passed around.

EDIT (again): Scratch that - it's been there since September 1st. If it was a problem it would have been pulled ages ago.

Re: Skyrim Footage, not leaked, by Todd Howard

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:58 am
by MARS
Firstly: this footage is leaked. Secondly: It's old.

Re: Skyrim Footage, not leaked, by Todd Howard

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:59 am
by OblivionDuruza
If you watch the first few minutes, Pete explicitly asked people not to film. It is a leak, or at least, it was illegally obtained.

Re: Skyrim Footage, not leaked, by Todd Howard

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:17 pm
by Hejerrick
aaaaand, it's months old

Re: Skyrim Footage, not leaked, by Todd Howard

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:48 pm
by dubq
People need to stop throwing around the word "illegal" when they're talking about video/photo leaks and stuff like this. Against the rules? Yes. Illegal and will land you in jail? Definitely not.

Re: Skyrim Footage, not leaked, by Todd Howard

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:49 pm
by MARS
Leaked footage is illegal...

Re: Skyrim Footage, not leaked, by Todd Howard

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:53 pm
by dubq
Would love to see the specific statute on that, then, and please don't cite movies as a precedent. Video games are a completely different medium.

To clarify, how the footage is obtained (pirated copy of game, etc) is obviously illegal, but I have never heard of someone being in legal hot water over leaked footage or photos of a game. In the case of the above, which is even more muddy, it looks as if it were filmed at a conference, or a public gathering of some sort.. Filming could get you banned from the event, but I highly doubt that the local popo were on standby to slap the cuffs on anyone filming a presentation.

Re: Skyrim Footage, not leaked, by Todd Howard

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:03 pm
by MARS
As far as I understand it is illegal to take screenshots and/or film videos of a game prior to its release. It's also illegal to distribute them on the itnernet. It's not illegal to watch them or discuss them. That is my knowledge on the legality of leaked footage.

Re: Skyrim Footage, not leaked, by Todd Howard

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:07 pm
by dubq
Fair enough. It's all moot anyway since we are all in different countries and are no doubt going to have different laws in place depending on where we live.

Re: Skyrim Footage, not leaked, by Todd Howard

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:48 pm
by OblivionDuruza
Both of you raise valid points, but at the end of the day, it is illegal, but more than that, it's disrespectful. Pete asked explicitly for people not to film, and he gave reason: Beth don't want crappy film of their game spreading, they want it released in full HD goodness. People should respect that. No poster here has done anything wrong, but there doesn't seem much more point in this discussion.

Re: Skyrim Footage, not leaked, by Todd Howard

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:50 pm
by Argonanza
I'll go ahead and lock this thread.