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giskard wrote: Thing of it this way, every time an empire crumbles, a new dragon arises and starts a new chapter

Wolfie wrote:there is more then one dragon born blood line, no one says a dragon born is a septim

wise_ginger_fox wrote:After viewing the new screen shots which looks awesome btw, and also thinking about the story plot that you are "The Dragon Born". Haven't all decendents of Tiber Septum been human(ish) character's/people (nords, britons etc). If you are part of that bloodkine or distant relation hoe can you be an Orc or Argonian for example. Surely had you been some form of relation your culture/race would be diluted or mixed?Sorry for picking holes .

He isn't. This we do know. Martin was the last heir, we played an entire game that explained to us this very fact.

The illegitimate son of Uriel Septim VII and a mysterious mother by the name of Gemile, Martin was spirited away as an infant by Jauffre, the Grand Master of the Blades. As a young man, Martin worshipped Sanguine, before turning away from Daedric Worship after tragedy befell him, and becoming a Priest in the Kvatch chapel. When Uriel Septim VII and his heirs were assassinated by the Mythic Dawn, a Daedric Cult, Martin became the last remaining Septim, forcing Jauffre to tell Martin of his parenthood. Martin fought against the Mythic Dawn in a struggle to keep Mehrunes Dagon from controlling the mortal plane. The fight would eventually claim Martin's life as his body was consumed when Akatosh appeared and defeated Mehrunes Dagon, but his sacrifice ensured that the forces of Oblivion could never again threaten Tamriel. Because of this sacrifice, Martin was proclaimed as the greatest of all the Septims by some.

Uriel Septim VII and all of his known heirs were assassinated. Shortly afterward, Oblivion gates to the Deadlands realm opened across Tamriel and poured out Daedra as the result of a fanatical Mehrunes Dagon worshipping cult known as the Mythic Dawn. Widespread devastation and casualties resulted across entire provinces, including Cyrodiil and Morrowind. Many of the old holds in Skyrim were destroyed. The city of Kvatch was entirely destroyed. The Empire was near collapse, but Uriel VII's illegitimate son, Martin Septim, ended the invasion with the help of a mysterious hero. The Amulet of Kings and Martin Septim, the last of the Septim bloodline, were lost. This event marked the end of the Third Era.

Hejerrick wrote:Or how about this:

Uriel Septim VII and all of his known heirs were assassinated. Shortly afterward, Oblivion gates to the Deadlands realm opened across Tamriel and poured out Daedra as the result of a fanatical Mehrunes Dagon worshipping cult known as the Mythic Dawn. Widespread devastation and casualties resulted across entire provinces, including Cyrodiil and Morrowind. Many of the old holds in Skyrim were destroyed. The city of Kvatch was entirely destroyed. The Empire was near collapse, but Uriel VII's illegitimate son, Martin Septim, ended the invasion with the help of a mysterious hero. The Amulet of Kings and Martin Septim, the last of the Septim bloodline, were lost. This event marked the end of the Third Era.

Not trying to be rude... But I think you missed some of the plot of TES 4

Hejerrick wrote:You are postulating that the Mythic dawn wasn't actually trying to end the Septim bloodline?

If they were really trying to end the Septim they wouldn't leave that possibility open would they?

Anyone (human) could be related to the Septims for that matter, but after a while it'll be so far of the main bloodline that it is completely irrelevant.

It has been made quite clear that it is the main bloodline that matters, otherwise most of the plot of Oblivion would become extraneous. Would Bethesda want that? Not too sure about that.

Since they already pulled the "hidden away heir" card I doubt they're going to do that again for some time. anyway, 200 years is a long time to keep a bloodline pure in secret...

wise_ginger_fox wrote:So in theory, and I use that term loosely, you in effect are creating a new chapter in lore that will not be followed but manipulated to fit potentially a future story line beyond skyrim