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Vampire Reproduction
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:12 am
by Woolymammoth
Arch-Mage Matt wrote:A very odd yet interesting read on races:
Here.
This brings me further to question if vampires can reproduce.
It was thought impossible, but after the Grey Prince in Oblivion, who knows. He was obviously an Orc, like his mother. But he had some Imperial traits (greyer skin, etc.). Would you think that only the good effects of vampirism are passed to the offspring if only
one parent has the curse? It would almost work like selective breeding, in a sense.
Re: Vampire Reproduction
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:01 pm
by OblivionDuruza
I would have thought vampirism was non-genetic being a disease, that's not to say diseases can't be passed on, but I'm not too sure that's just my gut instinct. I haven't seen any lore regarding this topic in my travels.
Re: Vampire Reproduction
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:13 pm
by Argonanza
Pregnant women with aids can get babies with aids, so I don't see why you couldn't be born kind-of-vampire.
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But it was the father who was a Vampire. Hmmm..
Re: Vampire Reproduction
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:37 pm
by Woolymammoth
Argonanza wrote:Pregnant women with aids can get babies with aids, so I don't see why you couldn't be born kind-of-vampire.
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But it was the father who was a Vampire. Hmmm..
We obviously know from the game that it's possible.
So perhaps if the mother has the curse, the baby does receive more of the actual effects (both positive and negative), while if the father has the curse, then the child would only receive some physical benefit, with no disadvantages.
Re: Vampire Reproduction
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:43 pm
by Trelares
Maybe a bit to scientific for TES, but if you think that vampirism greatly changes your appearance, attributes and skills it maybe could be said that it alters the dna slightly to achiev this "improvements". So this can mean that if the father was the vampire only some of the characteristics, like the appearance, the strength are passed down to the child.
Re: Vampire Reproduction
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:08 pm
by JockoBeans
In the games it is a disease, so they are not truly dead. That's my opinion. I don't know what the Lore necessarily contains on this subject.
Re: Vampire Reproduction
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:30 am
by Woolymammoth
JockoBeans wrote:In the games it is a disease, so they are not truly dead. That's my opinion. I don't know what the Lore necessarily contains on this subject.
In lore it is a Daedric curse that effects one much like a disease. However, it is still a God-given curse.
Trelares, what you say makes complete since. That's what I was hitting on earlier. I don't think anything would be too scientific, considering magic is actually very scientific in some aspects- implosion, explosion, etc.
Re: Vampire Reproduction
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:43 pm
by BootySweat
Woolymammoth wrote:Arch-Mage Matt wrote:A very odd yet interesting read on races:
Here.
This brings me further to question if vampires can reproduce.
It was thought impossible, but after the Grey Prince in Oblivion, who knows. He was obviously an Orc, like his mother. But he had some Imperial traits (greyer skin, etc.). Would you think that only the good effects of vampirism are passed to the offspring if only
one parent has the curse? It would almost work like selective breeding, in a sense.
I think he was simply half-Orc / half-Imperial, siince Lord Lovidicus was Imperial.
Re: Vampire Reproduction
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:22 pm
by legoless
JockoBeans wrote:In the games it is a disease, so they are not truly dead. That's my opinion. I don't know what the Lore necessarily contains on this subject.
They are certainly undead. The infected dies before they become a vampire. This is made obvious in Daggerfall, which places you in a crypt.
Re: Vampire Reproduction
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:25 pm
by Argonanza
So.. When you're cured from Porphyric Hemophilia you are also brought back to life?
Re: Vampire Reproduction
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:45 pm
by legoless
Well, no. Porphyric Hemophilia is the disease that kills you, which can be cured like any disease. But yes, curing vampirism involves resurrection. That's why it can only be done with witch/Daedric magic. The later games don't show this too well, but in Daggerfall you lose your reputation and essentially become a "new" person after you become a vampire.
Re: Vampire Reproduction
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:59 pm
by POMC S117
Are you sure. It sounds a bit far-fetched.
Re: Vampire Reproduction
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:46 am
by OblivionDuruza
No, I've heard about this too, I'll try and find a link. I've never played the game, but I do a lot of Elder Scrolls reading when I can.
Edit: Okay, this article sums it up, and actually answers this threads question.
UESP wrote:It is only by spreading their affliction can they "reproduce"; or at least a perverted mimicry of reproduction.
This book is also a good idea to read.
Re: Vampire Reproduction
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:25 pm
by legoless
Obviously, Daggerfall info might clash with the events of more recent games (such as the Grey Prince in Oblivion vs. "no reproduction"). In that case, the Daggerfall info shouldn't be viewed as 100% fact - although, to be honest, making the arena champ "the son of a vampire" is pretty cliche and shouldn't be viewed as lore-revolutionising stuff.
Re: Vampire Reproduction
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:28 pm
by Jake-uh
Slightly offtopic.
Are vampires immortal in TES?
Re: Vampire Reproduction
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:44 pm
by legoless
Jake-uh wrote:
Are vampires immortal in TES?
Only from age/disease, obviously. Yes.
Re: Vampire Reproduction
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:54 am
by OblivionDuruza
Read the article I linked too, it covers everything. The short answer is they don’t die from natural causes, but can be killed.