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I haven't read the full copy of the Infernal City, but I have seen that not very many people with how it affected the Lore of the ES.

OblivionDuruza wrote:In response to the OP, is that Darothil the trainer of Illusion in Morrowind?

Yes, he's the Master illusion trainer (who sells more destruction spells than illusion oddly enough) that 'lives' in Dirty Muriel's Cornerclub

Also Wooly/mars, I specifically stated to put anything related to the novels in spoilers

On to another book, or more specifically a series: A Dance in Fire, this chapter/volume series is great for it's look into what Valenwood is like and the usual Waughin Jarth Fanfare of comedy and intrigue. It also takes place within the Five Year War, lore/book-buffs will remember this war mentioned in another one of my favorites Mixed Unit Tactics (Numerous types of Khajiit are stated here, along with the Dagi)

The book is [&@%!], in my opinion.

Erm, I've never read an ingame book... except for that one time... yes... that time...


RED, RED, RED, RED, RED, RED.

You know the book

Sorry about that Duruza, forgot about this thread.

Some interesting reads on Dunmeri faith:

• The Book of Dawn and Dusk - Common idioms associated with the Temple ~ Rather funny
• The Book of Life and Service - a short snipit of Dunmeri ancestral undead ~ one of the few instances of the necromancy employed by the Dunmer being somewhat explained
• The Homilies of Blessed Almalexia - moral dunmeri children stories ~ like most children stories, good lessons learned and absolutely terrifying when you stop to look at what is in fact happening within the stories themselves
• The House of Troubles - a book on the four 'bad daedra' ~ a good look at how the Tribunal inserted themselves into Veloth's teachings
• Lives of the Saints - A list of the Saints of the Temple ~ a good list of some of the lesser known Dunmeri Saints
• Saryoni's Sermons - Sacred text of the values the Temple upholds ~ Lead by example, in this case do as Vivec does
• Vivec and Mephala - the Dichotomy of Vivec and his Anticipation ~ demonstrates how the Dunmer come to terms with deities that may not be all sunshine and glory

I apologize for the double post in advance...
I have additional Dunmeri books of mention...

• Blasphemous Revenants - a view on how Dunmer think of the undead outside of ancestor worship
• The Eastern Provinces - an imperial view of guarding Morrowind...
• Progress of Truth - How the Dissident Priests view the temple and their doctrines
• The Consolations of Prayer - another good list of the Dunmeri/Chimeri Saints

On the Morag Tong...

• Fire and Darkness - a look at the guild's history

On an unrelated note, I came across some books on some lesser known deities...

• The Ebon Arm - a brief book of the lesser known god of war
• Ius, Animal God - as the name says
• Of Jephre - God of Nature and a major figure in Bosmeri religion (see Green Pact)

Thanks for the links Chaos, here's my Dunmer list:

(spoiler tagged for a reason, it's pretty long):

I like The Lusty Argonian Maid. It's nice to see that not everyone hates the beast people.

I also like the history books that you can find.

The novelletes is where it's at. Palla!

To anyone who has read The Infernal City, would you recommend it? I've been considering buying a copy for a long time now, but a lot of mixed reviews have kept me from getting it.

I'd like to ask if anyone has actually found, in Morrowind, All Thirty Six Sermons of Vivec?

My highest count so far is about twenty eight I found around the Temples and Archives of the various temples.

Though the, Chaos, the Dissident Priests are a bit wrong on the Daedra. Mostly on their ability to reproduce for one quest, involving Curing your Vamprism, you must kill one of Molag Bal's child.

That and one must dare wonder how he made so many Vampires. Though; the story involving it is...bizarre. The Sermons give us a headless Vivec whom stayed with Molag Bal for eighty days and eighty nights. Imagine that. The Horror is vast.

Is the book called "small diary" that is found at the beginning of the mehrunes razor quest listed in the UESP library, and if not can we add it?

I believe if it recall correctly, it was written by Frathen Drothan's cousin, and it reveals the password to gain entrance to the dungeon.

It is a book though, and not a letter or note. Its the only book that i've found in Oblivion that hasnt been listed in their list of books, which is why i was kinda surprised when i found it. Granted, its short, but its not the shortest book out there.

I tried to quickly count how many books are in Oblivion, including SI, and came up with 286. This could be off due to the fact that my brain gets bored counting that much, but it should be fairly close.

So far it sounds like there will be 300 books in the initial release of skyrim, and given the fact that for their DLC they sound like they want to do 2 or 3 big expansion packs, which going by SI's model would have 30 or so each, we could have a pretty sizeable amount of books by the time this game is totally released.

I'm also thinking that since its been 200 years, a lot of these books should be new. Im not sure what the timeframe between daggerfall and morrowind was, but from what i understand between MW and OB it was like 10 years or so, and while i didnt play morrowind too much and havent gotten into their lore yet, it seemed like a pretty good chunk of the books in OB were new.

Sadly I never read any of the books for the first 95% of the time i've played oblivion, but since ive gotten into it its becoming a favorite part of the game for me, so i expect to be collecting the books right off the bat this next time around.