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Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:51 am
by VirtualWeasel
Alright, here's how this is going to go. I want no one criticizing anyone else's religion/philosophy. No arguments, please, but a discussion of friendly grounds is okay. No Aethiest vs. Super-Religious discussion, as this will end VERY badly. If someone says something that seems offensive, but not extremely intentional, please don't respond badly to it.
I am my own religion. I believe in a spiritual force, not a great white bearded man in the sky. Kind of like the Druid religion, where they believed in a spiritual force, not a "god".
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:10 am
by Chaos the N'wah
I'm an atheist with a pension for romanticism
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:30 am
by Dark Lord Cam
I am agnostic.
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 5:40 am
by Veck
I'm a Buddhist, I think. I say this because I recently had a mini crisis of faith where I suddenly lost the tiny amount of belief in a diety that I had, which let me embrace Buddhism, as I'd been quite closely linked to it before. I wouldn't say I'm a religious person, as it's more of a philosophy than a religion, and I'm obviously atheistic for following it. I also believe in karma being another natural force of existence, reincarnation, eternal existence of reality, bodhisattvas, and natural order and chaos.
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:56 am
by JockoBeans
I am an orthodox Roman Catholic. I believe that there is truth in all forms of religion or belief and so I will not antagonize people of other faiths.
By the way... Veck, you probably that denominational, but I will ask anyway. Do you lean toward the Theravada, the Mahayana or Zen?
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:43 am
by Generalno1
I'm Hindu, Not religious enough to remember all the pooja dates, but religious enough to remember the important ones. I'm not all that religious, just spiritual. Hinduism doesn't actually count as an Regular religion, we don't have a holy text, or rules to live by, Its more of a lifestyle really.
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 9:06 am
by Veck
@Jocko I'm Zen, but in terms of the big two I lean more towards Mahayana. I tend to like to interpret things for myself and I don't agree with some of Theravada's set-in-stone traditional principles, so the choice is natural for me.
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 9:49 am
by MARS
I believe in a cycle. The universe is created, blossoms whilst moving towards a state of total entropy. It withers and falls apart until it returns to its "initial" state of beginning and the cycle is repeated.
I don't think about deities much. There may be one, but unless I see proof of it I don't believe it and I wouldn't follow or worship it unless I had a reason to. I've never needed faith in a deity. I have faith in myself.
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 9:52 am
by Moeboid
I don't believe in a god or any other supernatural/spiritual force, so I guess you could call me an atheist. Not sure how much I want to call myself that though, since I fear I could be stereotyped.
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:18 pm
by Lindai
Catholic,but I don't believe everything it says. The God and Jesus thing, I believe. The moral code and teachings that come hand in hand with Catholicism are ones that I respect greatly and do my best to follow/uphold.
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:29 pm
by Wolfie
Christian, I'm not really any type of them as which ever church i can go to I will go
I how ever do have so things i dont agree with in evrey one of them
but for the most part I keep it to my self
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:32 pm
by Mucro
I'm pretty opinionated on the subject, but I try my best to stay away from pee'ing anybody off, at least most of the time. I do have intelligent debates about it at school though.
I'm not a follower of any religion. But if I would, I'd follow buddhism.
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:35 pm
by Veck
Mucro wrote:I'm not a follower of any religion. But if I would, I'd follow buddhism.
NOT A RELIGION!!!/buddhistrage
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:36 pm
by Mucro
It's a religion based on a philosphy.
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:38 pm
by Wolfie
I'm not going to argue but i just want to say a religion dose not need a god, many kings where "worshiped" not as god's but as them self
you follow Buddha and i consider that a religion
"imitation is a form of worship"
anyways no auguring on this thread if you must PM me your rant
jk
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:40 pm
by Veck
Taken from Wikipedia:
El Wikipedio wrote:Religion (from O.Fr. religion "religious community," from L. religionem (nom. religio) "respect for what is sacred, reverence for the gods," "obligation, the bond between man and the gods"
As Buddhism has no belief in respect, reverence or bonds with gods or spirits, it can't really be classed as one.
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:41 pm
by Wolfie
don't you "respect" Buddha as a spirit?
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:43 pm
by Mucro
Das Wikipedia wrote: Buddhism (Pali/Sanskrit: बौद्ध धर्म Buddha Dharma) is a religion and philosophy encompassing a variety of traditions, beliefs and practices
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:46 pm
by MARS
Post removed
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:46 pm
by Wolfie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worship#Wo ... n_Buddhism
Worship in Buddha Dharma may take innumerable forms given the doctrine of skillful means. Worship is evident in Buddhism in such forms as: guru yoga, mandala, thanka, yantra yoga, the discipline of the fighting monks of Shaolin, panchamrita, mantra recitation, tea ceremony, ganacakra, amongst others.
You don't have to be a "god" per say to be worshiped
Look at animal and tree worships (to be fair some do call them gods but most dont)
He said we could have freidnly debates mars
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:48 pm
by MARS
In that case ignore me.
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 5:06 pm
by Veck
Fair enough, but I still consider it more of a philosophy for me than a religion, as I treat it more as a realistic outlook for me than a theistic or spiritual form of worship.
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 5:13 pm
by OblivionDuruza
If you regard it as a philosophy rather than a religion, than it is a philosophy and not a religion. I believe that our belief systems are purely our own. Yes we borrow from others, but at the end of the day they are whatever we make of them.
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 5:17 pm
by Veck
Dang straight. I should probably also add that I take a tiny bit of influence from some more traditional religions and philosophical followings, such as Bahai and Stoicism.
Re: Religion and Philosophy
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 5:27 pm
by Wolfie
I'm not sure I understand that at all
Religion and Philosophy are night and day in this case
If i said Christan was not a religion it would not be true would it?
Maybe I'm ocnfuing the two defnitions