What Elder Scrolls language is this?

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Re: What Elder Scrolls language is this?

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Mattbott wrote:i hope the devs spend as much time thinking about this stuff as we do, and don't just re-use textures in different places cos of time/personnel resource restraints lol
There is the example of the Elder language, as used in the Elder Scrolls themselves, which, to my knowledge, has not as yet been translated and may not even be translatable. But I do hope this mysterious language, that some are calling the language of Hermaeus Mora, is able to be translated.
Mickey wrote:with words and whole sentences being coherent forwards, backwards, or inverted.
You missed "vertically, both up and down". The Diiv Word Wall has sections where the text is seen scrolling vertically. Gah!
Ilaro wrote:The sentence isn't even backwards. You can just turn it over, you don't need a mirror... So mabey you need to turn the Eye upside down to read this sentence.
However, the example shown that has a phrase inverted isn't from the Eye, it is from the Diiv Word Wall.
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Maybe it's like the Dwemer Script in Morrowind? It's translatable, but in game it's either used in gibberish text or easter eggs.

Edit: An I'm strongly against associating it with HM, I'm sure the Apocrypha has a Copy of Boethiah's pillow book, doesn't mean Hermy wrote it.
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Aren't all the "chapters" books in apocrypha using this same language?

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I do see at least one common symbol there, yes. The one that looks like a 3.
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the two symbols on the top left, above the second line that crosses the page, look just like 2 symbols on the word wall
the ones with the dots in them
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Thanks for contributing that image, SmallFries. I don't suppose you could edit your post above and put the image inside some [hide] tags, as I've done below, could you? Otherwise it unnaturally stretches the thread horizontally. Thanks.

I've found the same pattern repetition in the Black Books, thanks to the image that SmallFries posted. I've used the same colour-code to mark the three common phrases. In fact, if you look closely at the image, those same three phrases are repeated throughout the image, and constitute the only text in the image.
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This same repetition is the same as is found on the Diiv Word Wall. The reason for this is that the texture used for both appears to be drawn from the same source, which is this image...
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The text on the Eye of Magnus, which Avron the S'wit posted above, contains other glyphs, some that are not seen in the three common phrases, and some that are. I'd like to see the texture file for the Eye of Magnus from the main Skyrim game data, as we have seen the texture file from Dragonborn. It think it might reveal something about this language.
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Post by AbiwonKenabi »

It may be that this is some lost or forbidden language yet to be revealed. After all, Hermaeus Mora is the Daedric Prince of Knowledge, especially forbidden knowledge. I definitely see the consistencies in the characters though. I think Bethesda is usually pretty good at keeping track of details like this, so here's hoping we can one day translate this :)
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There's actually some faded Daedric script in Mora's realm, which some fans recently ciphered as being an exert from "Mysterium Xarxes". The line about the weak being winnowed, etc. Makes sense as Xarxes was Mora's personal scribe.
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