Which dual-wield option would you want to play the most?

Chaos the N'wah · Post by **Chaos the N'wah** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:01 am

I wonder if you'll be penalized for using magic with a 2 handed weapon

Dark Spark · Post by **Dark Spark** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:10 am

I'll let all of you know this right from the start— I haven't read any online articles, seen any of the interviews, or bought any of the magazines featuring stories on the upcoming game...

...they're still going to have bows in Skyrim, no?

Dlarsh · Post by **Dlarsh** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:13 am

Dark Spark wrote:I'll let all of you know this right from the start— I haven't read any online articles, seen any of the interviews, or bought any of the magazines featuring stories on the upcoming game...

...they're still going to have bows in this game, no?

Yes. Supposedly they'll be slower but much more powerful, but I don't think you can duel-wield a bow

Dark Spark · Post by **Dark Spark** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:21 am

Dlarsh wrote:...I don't think you can duel-wield a bow

Well, I could. But it'd look silly with me lying on my back, both feet set against two bowstaves, with arrows nocked back in each hand.

JockoBeans · Post by **JockoBeans** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:27 am

Dlarsh wrote:
Dark Spark wrote:Yes. Supposedly they'll be slower but much more powerful, but I don't think you can duel-wield a bow

Not if you aare using crossbows

Dlarsh · Post by **Dlarsh** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:30 am

Dark Spark wrote:
Dlarsh wrote:...I don't think you can duel-wield a bow
Well, I could. But it'd look silly with me lying on my back, both feet set against two bowstaves, with arrows nocked back in each hand.

A fair point indeed.
Another question arises though; while I'm sure h2h will be included, does anyone have any thoughts on its implementation with duel-wielding?

ch00_bakka · Post by **ch00_bakka** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:40 am

JockoBeans wrote:
Dlarsh wrote:
Dark Spark wrote:Yes. Supposedly they'll be slower but much more powerful, but I don't think you can duel-wield a bow
Not if you aare using crossbows

But how would you reload? Although, if Akavir will be involved, maybe there'll be repeating crossbow crossbow crossbows.

Dark Spark · Post by **Dark Spark** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:43 am

Dlarsh wrote: ...Another question arises though; while I'm sure h2h will be included, does anyone have any thoughts on its implementation with duel-wielding?

My idea?

Tap right trigger: Right jab (quick, but weak)
Tap left trigger: Left hook (stronger, slower, with a chance to bypass a block)
Hold right trigger: Right cross (slowest, but hardest-hitting)
Hold both triggers: Block
Hold left trigger: Grapple (chance to immobilize target temporarily, allowing you to jab with the right rapidly)

ch00_bakka · Post by **ch00_bakka** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:50 am

Dark Spark wrote:
Dlarsh wrote: ...Another question arises though; while I'm sure h2h will be included, does anyone have any thoughts on its implementation with duel-wielding?
My idea?

Tap right trigger: Right jab (quick, but weak)
Tap left trigger: Left hook (stronger, slower, with a chance to bypass a block)
Hold right trigger: Right cross (slowest, but hardest-hitting)
Hold both triggers: Block
Hold left trigger: Grapple (chance to immobilize target temporarily, allowing you to jab with the right rapidly)

What would the bumpers be for, then? And how to implement it on a PC?

Dark Spark · Post by **Dark Spark** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:53 am

How would I know? I haven't read a thing about the game, so I'd most likely fail at designing it.

JJSmart · Post by **JJSmart** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:54 am

ch00_bakka wrote:
Dark Spark wrote:
Dlarsh wrote: ...Another question arises though; while I'm sure h2h will be included, does anyone have any thoughts on its implementation with duel-wielding?
My idea?

Tap right trigger: Right jab (quick, but weak)
Tap left trigger: Left hook (stronger, slower, with a chance to bypass a block)
Hold right trigger: Right cross (slowest, but hardest-hitting)
Hold both triggers: Block
Hold left trigger: Grapple (chance to immobilize target temporarily, allowing you to jab with the right rapidly)
What would the bumpers be for, then? And how to implement it on a PC?

Right and left click?

Kestral · Post by **Kestral** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:56 am

Left hand: ~~Electro Bolt~~ Shock spell
Right hand: ~~Shotgun~~ Awesome Sword of Whupass

MasterShadow · Post by **MasterShadow** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:23 am

Dean wrote:True, it did. Hopefully it will be a bit more...speedy, then the momentous amount of time it took to switch between sword and spell.

It could be something simple like spells are more effective with a free hand. That would work nicely I think.

Actually, there is nothing in the gameinformer article's section on combat (page 50) which implies that you can use spells if you don't have a free hand. From how I read it, you appear to have to have a free hand to designate for casting. However, if you have two free hands, it states that you can "combine the spell to extraordinary effect". Sounds like spell casters with no weapons will be more effective casters. All of this actually sounds like a step in the right direction, IMO. I like it alot.

Edit:
Oh and basically, my character will be using several different combinations, very likely:

1. Spell and Dagger (for my illusion spells to screw with my opponent's head before I stab him in the back
2. Dual swords or daggers (depending on how I feel, but it will be dual daggers most of the time to satisfy the rogue/assassin in me)
3. Two handed swords (mainly thinner ones, such as dai-katana's for speedily dispatching foes when I'm surrounded, or heavily outnumbered.

tobascodagama · Post by **tobascodagama** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:14 pm

Long blade/short blade, as Musashi intended.

hoodedrobin · Post by **hoodedrobin** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:35 pm

Left hand bow, Right hand arrow... thats all i need.

Painlee · Post by **Painlee** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:08 pm

Mattbott wrote: i'd go with sword/shield or dagger/sword i think

they probably be my most common too but of course i will mix different stuff once in a wile.

Doctor Meaticus · Post by **Doctor Meaticus** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:57 pm

Hopefully we can dual-wield repeater crossbows. Otherwise, I want to have a crosswbow in one hand and a shortsword in the other. Badass.

Rat Kiosk · Post by **Rat Kiosk** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:45 pm

longsword in the right hand and a reverse grip shortsword in the left

I.e. the longsword is held normally but the shortsword is held with the blade pointing down.

The_Noob · Post by **The_Noob** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:44 pm

Two shields at once.

River · Post by **River** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:49 pm

I start out with longsword and shield. But it sounds like you switch between set ups quickly and intuitively, so I'd be ready to drop the shield and go for a spell or pull a reverse short sword.

PinballWizard · Post by **PinballWizard** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:09 pm

None of the above. Shield / Shield is where it's at. Just gradually walk towards enemies shrugging off their attacks only to stick the shield in their throat, for a measly -6 HP. Still, it'd be worth it.

Icyblaze13 · Post by **Icyblaze13** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:59 pm

Does the Dragonborn have an off-hand with a penalty like the PC does in the KotOR games or does it not matter which hand you use for what?

nick the beast · Post by **nick the beast** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:17 am

lancer/hammer of dawn

wait wrong game dual crossbows if they comeback or sword sword

Symphonic · Post by **Symphonic** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:29 pm

PinballWizard wrote:None of the above. Shield / Shield is where it's at. Just gradually walk towards enemies shrugging off their attacks only to stick the shield in their throat, for a measly -6 HP. Still, it'd be worth it.

Well, give it a short stun and a scaling damage component, and it could be beast. Smiters were one of the wonkiest and unbalanced builds in Diablo II, and were for a long time, if they aren't still, one of the only characters capable of soloing the Ubers.

Incarnal · Post by **Incarnal** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:50 pm

You just know you're going to have to try out every single possible combination. I know I will!

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