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I'd also like to thank icyblaze for having the "stones" to open up such a controversial topic for discussion, and the moderators for letting everyone have their say. I wouldn't have expected it would end on a positive note, but this has actually been a very therapeutic discussion. maybe what we need most is more open communication and dialogue where people don't have to be afraid to openly express themselves. just for the record, I'm heterosexual. the "partner" I referred to is my ex-wife. I wasn't trying to mislead with the phrasing, but to illustrate the point that regardless of the fact that I'm not emotionally (romantically) or physically (sexually) attracted to men, a person is still a person, and regardless of what your "orientation" or preference is, a partner is still a partner, so maybe we're not so different after all. I think our society and culture places far too much emphasis on things that don't or shouldn't matter. to try to answer your question ...
if I'm interpreting this correctly, no, I wouldn't disagree. it sounds like pretty much the same thing, which is why I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. as for the rest, well, I thought there might be more to add to the discussion, but at this point I'll spare the unsolicited profundity.Wolf wrote:First I'd like to address something you,ve said:
If I remember correctly, the chemical Oxytocin is released during and after sex. It is the chemical responsible for bonding with other human beins. Psychologically, through a reward learning-system, it can be argued that sex with a person would make someone want to be around that person more, as being around that person is more likely to provoke those good feelings. I don't know much about intimacy, experience or knowledge, but I do know about bonding through a general study of psychology. I'm making an inference, and I'm wondering if you would disagree and why.Chromalfean wrote:there are only two reasons to engage in sex. the first is procreation, and the second is self-gratification. we do it simply because it feels good. the reason I'm saying this? my point is, sex has nothing to do with intimacy or love except for the connection we make between them in our minds, and this is usually a romantic/romanticised process, but both of the latter can be achieved without the former.
But... but you are a bigoted Nazi! Even then, I'm still willing to accept you as a human being so that we can gather 'round and love one another and put an end to this whole argument. 
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