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 Post subject: Constant Crashing near Ghostgate
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:46 am 
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I've been playing morrowind constantly since get my new computer in early November and had few if any repeatable crashes.Its crashed less than 10 and one was because I had forgotten to reapply the 4GB patch and the other was do MWSE mod going all wonky.But now I have been getting this repeatable crash when enter the cell right outside Ghostgate and another one when I try to enter Fadathram Ancestral Tomb. I have no clue what could be causing it.I tried disable MGE XE internal MWSE,disable my only MWSE dependent mod and the my only other idea which was to disable the Julan Companion mod but none of those stopped the crashes.


Here is my mod list in its load order
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Morrowind.esm
Tribunal.esm
Bloodmoon.esm
Morrowind Patch v1.6.6_beta.esm
Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm
Texture Fix 2.0.esm
Tamriel_Data.esm
TR_Mainland.esm
Poorly Placed Object Fix 1.2.esm
Tamrielic Lore.esm
MAO.esm
multipatch.esp
New Boots of Blinding Speed.ESP
RR_Melchior's_Mudcrab_Merchant_Eng.ESP
Dwemer Gauntlets.esp
PB_AStrangePlant.esp
Windows Glow.esp
Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp
JEB_muffin_fix.esp
gr_ScriptImprovements.esp
Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp
Better Skulls.ESP
Illy's Solstheim Rumour Fix.esp
Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.esp
Particle Arrow Replacer.esp
Psy_VGR_Armour.esp
OTR_Coast_Variety.esp
Dagoth Ur Fix.esp
PB_IngredientWeight.esp
PB_SmallerPotions.esp
Canton Bridge1.2.esp
PB_GondolierDestinations.esp
Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.esp
correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.esp
Bloated Caves.esp
SirLuthor-Tools.esp
Unique Banners and Signs.esp
Statue Replacer - Normal.esp
bones.esp
Shieldfx.esp
Book Jackets - Morrowind.esp
Book Jackets - Tribunal.esp
Book Jackets - Bloodmoon.esp
NewBlood_MwTbBm1.1.esp
abotWindowsGlow.esp
KS_Julan_Ashlander Companion_2.0.esp
BB Dark Brotherhood by Westly.esp
Visible Temple.esp
Unique Jewelry and Accessories.esp
Clean MCFC_1.0.esp
LeftGloves_Addon_v2.esp
Nil-Ruhn.ESP
Vurt's BC Tree Replacer II.esp
New Bodies - Clean.esp
Better Robes.ESP
COI.ESP
Face of the Hortator.esp
Alchemy Book_1.3.esp
Book of Disease.ESP
Hortator Nerevarine Fix.ESP
Eternal Skeleton Key.ESP
bw_striderports.esp
Illy's Akatosh II.ESP
cXI+GH_fix.ESP
cXI+GH_extra_fix.ESP
Books of Vvardenfell.esp
TR Unique quest daggers.ESP
Z_AncestorGuardian_01.ESP
UFR_v3dot2.esp
Trays Itemized.ESP
Your Indoril Armour.esp
Westly_Presents_Unique_Corprus_Stalkers.esp
Westly_Presents_Unique_Winged_Twilights.esp
RunFaster-Faster.ESP
Suran_Underworld_v3.ESP
Sea Rover Tent.esp
FLG - Balmora's Underworld V1.1.esp
PB_SignpostsRetextured.esp
PB_SecretApperatus.esp
New Black Hands Dagger.ESP
New Widowmaker.ESP
LGNPC_NoLore.esp
ExpandedBirthsigns4Purists.esp
Battlespire Books.esp
Neo's Unique Creatures.esp
BetterClothesForTB.esp
Improved Umbra.esp
Psy_UniqueDremora_T.esp
abotSkarPlatforms.esp
Better Bodies.esp
Barabus' fireplaces 2.esp
Vurt's Grazelands Trees.esp
New Voices.esp
Sleepers, Awake!.esp
Better Clothes_v1.1_nac.esp
Clear Your Name.esp
Caius Constant effect items.esp
BetterClothesBloodmoonPlus.esp
Buy A House (Mournhold).esp
DB_Attack_Mod.esp
frostmoth_repaired_v0_31.esp
New Bow of Shadows.esp
More Better Clothes.ESP
AuriOrdCompanion.esp
Ahnassi's House - Refurbished.esp
Encumberance increaser StrX10.esp
graffhelm replacer.ESP
New Randagulf's Fists.ESP
Creatures (lore).esp
New Bloodworm Helm.ESP
New Lord's Mail.ESP
Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.esp
LowerFirstPersonSneak.ESP
Norenen-Dur's Throne(clean).esp
Of Justice and Innocence.esp
OldVosTradepost.ESP
New Argonian Bodies - Clean.esp
New Khajiit Bodies - Clean.esp
A Hermit's Request.esp
DD Ajira's Alchemy Reports.esp
Balmora Redecorated v2.1.ESP
Daedric Not So Heavy.esp
DN_Adamantium.esp
Camping Kits.ESP
factorestateimprovedv1.ESP
Foodoftamriel.ESP
GednaNoLongerImmortal.ESP
Illy's Altered Altars.ESP
Imperial Legion Rank Rename.ESP
KirkbrideBooks.esp
Morag Tong - Methas.esp
Obscure_Texts.ESP
Of Dungeons and Abodes.esp
Daggerfall Collection Ver 1.1.esp
Less_Generic_Nerevarine.esp
LGNPC_SeydaNeen.esp
UMOPP GrurntheLich -- SaF AddOn.esp
Magical Missions.ESP
MoreQuests_0_12.ESP
UMOPP Siege at Firemoth Patched.esp
MQE_MainQuestEnhancers.ESP
Varo Manor v1.3.esp
Buy A House.esp
TR_Preview.esp
Trainer Log.esp
Imperial Legion Expansion.esp
The Doors of Oblivion 1.3sound changes.esp
Better Robes TR.esp
Lore-Consistent Kwama Eggs.esp
Lore-Consistent Alchemists Formulary.esp
Lore-Consistent Grazelands Dialogue.esp
Lore-Consistent Golden Saint Dialogue.esp
LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_20.esp
LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.esp
LGNPC_MaarGan.esp
LGNPC_HlaOad.esp
LGNPC_Aldruhn.esp
LGNPC_Aldruhn_suppl.esp
LGNPC_Pelagiad.esp
LGNPC_TelMora_v1_30.esp
LGNPC_Khuul_v2_21.esp
LGNPC_VivecFQ.esp
LGNPC_TelUvirith.esp
Wey_New_Argonians.ESP
Tireless running.esp
veg-TotW-books-MSrestored.esp
Walled city of Balmora 1.6c.esp
Twilight Heart Drops.ESP
veg-Velas_Manor-Complete.ESP
Unofficial Morrowind Official Plugins Patched.esp
LGNPC_SecretMasters_v1_30.esp
LGNPC_IndarysManor_v1_51.esp
LGNPC_VivecRedoran.esp
LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_20.esp
LGNPC_SoulSicknessPatch_v1_00.esp
PB_WelkyndStones.esp
PB_LegionUniforms.esp
Female Armor - Complete.esp
More Inns Barabus' Fireplaces 2 compatible.esp
BuyoantArmigersArmor_NPC.ESP
DN_1stPersonBodiesBBNB.esp
DN_1stPersonClothesBC.esp
DN_1stPersonArmorBA.esp
Intervention Improved - NoScript - Ghostgate.ESP
ArmoredRobes_NPC_Compilation.ESP
Better Weapons and Armors.esp
DBHQ.ESP
CreeperReplacer.esp
Kindi's Illegal Items.ESP
Fourth Era Solstheim.ESP
Clean Morrowind Unused Content.ESP
STA_guides_replacer.esp
guarskin_drum_replacer.esp
Spirit's MGSO Daedric Armor Fixes.esp
MW Containers Animated.esp
Graphic Herbalism.esp
Old_dwemer_books_Better_typography.esp
AtHomeAlchemyRedux.esp
Arkngthand_2.0.esp
Holidays Across Tamriel - Vvardenfell.esp
Pearls Enhanced - Colored Pearls Add-on.ESP
Ranked Dremora.esp
NON1.LoveintheTimeofDaedra.v1.03_Abot.esp
NON2.RoadtoMournhold.v1.0.2a.esp
MAO_GHerb.esp
md_Forge of Hilbongard.ESP
HopesfireEnhanced.ESP
Arthmoors_Merchants.esp
Ashlander_Transports.esp
Projectile Overhaul - All Modules.esp
ReclamationsInHolamayan.ESP
gr_Keys (Daduke compatible).esp
Improved Inns.esp
Dagger of Symmachus.esp
Better Morrowind Armor.esp
Snow Prince Armor Redux.ESP
The Doors - Caldera,Walls 1.3.esp
Texture fix 2.0 Caldera Patch.esp
Graphic Herbalism Extra (Correct UV).esp
Shrines - Restore Health and Cancel Options.esp
The Doors - Ald-Ruhn 1.4.esp
Telvanni Teleporter.ESP
Telvanni Cephalopod Armor.esp
Telvanni Cephalopod Armor plus Gothren (no helmet).esp
TamLore -- Wings of the Queen of Bats.esp
TamLore -- AddOn 1-MuseumAdditions.esp
TamLore -- Script Insurance.esp
The Doors of Oblivion 1.0.esp
Stav_Stormkiss Reforged.esp
SpeechcraftBalance.ESP
The Doors - Balmora, Suran 1.2b WCB.esp
Redaynia Village.esp
Suran Temple Door Fix.esp
GHE PEC Patch.ESP
Quorn Resource Integration.ESP
Adventurer's backback.ESP
Pelagiad Guard Tower Home.esp
Ebony Claymore.esp
Less_Generic_Tribunal.esp
BetterGoverningAttributes.esp
Graphic Herbalism TR.esp
PB_SignpostsRetexturedTR.esp
TR_Travels.esp
Graphic Herbalism TR Extra.esp
True_Lights_And_Darkness_1.0-NoDaylight.esp
True Skyrimized Torches.esp
Atmospheric Plazas - WG.ESP
MW Containers Animated exp.esp


I am using MGSO and other plugginless mods but nothing that should be causing this crash,mainly texture replacer's.


What could be causing this crashing and how do I fix it.I am absolutely loving this playthrough and I would hate to lose even more so considering this probably one of the most stable least crashy Morrowind install\Playthroughs I've have ever had.


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 Post subject: Re: Constant Crashing near Ghostgate
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:01 pm 
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Try using "Re-generate Distant Land" and "Sort Load Order" in the MGSO Options tool.

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 Post subject: Re: Constant Crashing near Ghostgate
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:55 am 
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I regenerated distant land using MGE XE and the game still crashes,I disabled distant still crashes,I disabled mge xe and it still crashes.So its not any of those.I sort my lord order using Mlox and I can't rerun MGSO Setup since that would mess up the Temporary Patch stuff.I have no clue what could be causing this crash.All my warnings.txt say is this Dialogue "" type "Journal" tried to become type "Topic". and I know which two mods those come from and I looked up the error and everyone said it was harmless.This issue is quite vexing.


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 Post subject: Re: Constant Crashing near Ghostgate
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:03 am 
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Sounds like it's time for a fresh install.

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 Post subject: Re: Constant Crashing near Ghostgate
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:44 am 
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I hope not,I really hope not.I have no clue at would be causing this.


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 Post subject: Re: Constant Crashing near Ghostgate
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:10 pm 
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i would advice to cut mod count to essential, i myself only keep mods i use on that playthru enabled and avoid "permanent" mods, maybe its your pluginless stuff that makes trouble

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 Post subject: Re: Constant Crashing near Ghostgate
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:08 am 
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ES Games: Arena-Beaten,Daggerfall-Beaten,Battlespire-beaten,Redguard-Still haven't Beaten,Morrowind GOTY-beaten,OblivionGOTY-beaten,Skyrim and its DLC Xbox360-Beaten,ESO-Beaten except DLC(PS4)
Platform: PC,PS4,Xbox One
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I did cut down my mod count some and was still have problems,but never fear for I found the culprit.Its Intervention Improved by Hollaajith specifically the Ghostgate no script version.With it disable,no crash when enter the cell containing the entrance to Ghostgate nor when entering Fadathram Ancestral Tomb.Now just to figure out how to make it play nice.I am really glad since this means I don't have make a new install or start a new game.


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