Things I could do to run oblivion better on my computer?

Maxrebo · **Posted:** Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:41 am

I was wondering if anyone could tell me what I could do to make it run better on my computer.Do you know I were I could find my spec so I can put them down.

Leilah · **Posted:** Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:52 am

In the "Best Mods" thread, somebody recommended "Streamline", which is supposed to reduce lag and all that bad stuff. I've only just downloaded it, so I don't know how well it works, but it may be worth a try.

BFG · **Posted:** Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:59 pm

You should check out the Must Have Mods page. There's numerous things that you can do to optimize or stabilize Oblivion. Here are just a few of the more popular ones:

Streamline
Oblivion Stutter Remover
Operation Optimization
BOSS (Better Oblivion Sorting Software)
the Unofficial Patches
Oblivion Script Optimization
kuertee's CleanUp
PyFFI optimization of every mesh and BSA
TweakOblivion (to alter settings in your Oblivion.ini file)
Oblivion Crash Prevention System
FastExit2 (prevents crashes on exit, and exiting Oblivion only takes 1 or 2 seconds)

I run all of these and collectively, they make a HUGE difference. The PyFFI one is the only one that's semi-complicated to use, but it's also the one that probably makes the largest difference.

Maxrebo · **Posted:** Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:15 pm

Sorry but it took me awhile to respond since I busy playing battlespire here is my dxdiag.
OS-Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit(6.1,build 7600)
Model-Inspiron 530s
BIOS phoenix AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor-Intel Core 2 Duo CPU E7300 @ 2.66 GHz 2CPU's,2.7 GHz
RAM-4096MBs of ram? I have 3 or 4 GB so something here is a ram fiend
Page file-1387MB used 6798MB available
DirectX Version Direct X 11
GPU-ATI Radeon HD 3400 PCI Express 2041MB
That's all the relevant info,I cant decide whether to upgrade it,or to just wait and eventually just get a gaming computer which we be awhile from now.

Tim Faal · **Posted:** Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:33 pm

I have similar spec (If not a tad less RAM!) and all I find I need to to do is use the console command 'tg' to toggle the grass off, very playable once that's done. Slight dent in atmosphere maybe but at least it's easier to find you loot!

RobotNixon · **Posted:** Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:38 pm

I tried Streamline and it didn't seem to have much of an effect when I used it,
but the extra autosaves called "Streamsaves" it made were very useful when the game crashed.

However, I remember editing the Oblivion.ini file to allow multithreading, which gave me a 20 FPS boost.

If I remember how I did it I'll post it here.

Maxrebo · **Posted:** Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:08 pm

I need to find out whats eating my RAM for breakfast.I run the game on high because medium looks like crap and ultra high runs to slow.I wonder what needs upgrading.I tend not to use graphics updating mods because I like the game the way it is.For me its usually gameplay mods but I don't use a lot at least not till I get a better pc.

Prophet · **Posted:** Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:57 am

Maxrebo wrote:

I need to find out whats eating my RAM for breakfast.I run the game on high because medium looks like crap and ultra high runs to slow.I wonder what needs upgrading.I tend not to use graphics updating mods because I like the game the way it is.For me its usually gameplay mods but I don't use a lot at least not till I get a better pc.

I'm not sure I understand why you think all of your RAM is being consumed in the first place, what makes you think this? Just so you know 4096MB of RAM = 4GB of RAM. Is your system giving you low memory errors or something when running the game? One thing that you should be certain is NOT running when you play the game is Firefox, Firefox uses unnecessarily huge amounts of memory. If you insist on having web pages open when you're playing and you normally use Firefox, install Google Chrome for just this purpose. (I have Chrome installed, but never use it...)

H8Ball · **Posted:** Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:51 am

With that spec, you should be able to max out ALL Video Options and run Oblivion butter smooth. I have an old 32-bit PC with a single-core 2.1GHz CPU, 2Gb RAM and 512Mb Geforce 7900GS. I'm running Oblivion at 1360x768 with Distant Land, HDR and Grass enabled, and all Video Options maxed out except for Specular Distance (50%), Shadows (50%) and Window Reflections OFF. I average about 20fps outside, up to 100fps indoors, and I have Qarl's Texture Pack III Redimized installed for almost photo-realistic hi-res textures! Without it, I used to get 25~30fps outside!

I strongly suspect it's not RAM that Oblivion needs, but CPU time. If you have too many programs/services running in the background, they eat up CPU time which causes Oblivion to suffer. Here's a few tips to get the CPU load down...

First, Google for ["windows 7" + services +disable] to find web pages with good info on stopping/disabling as many background services as possible (you'll have to figure out which ones you don't need running). If Windows 7 is anything like XP/Vista, Microsoft leave a LOT of unnecessary services running by default. They start up when Windows does and consume RAM and CPU time as they run in the background. The more services you can disable, the more RAM and CPU time you'll free up. Be warned, though, certain key services SHOULD be left running, as they're absolutely required for Windows to function correctly.

Your Antivirus may be a major culprit for hogging CPU time. Norton Antivirus is notorious for it! Also, by default, your Antivirus background scanner (normally called the Shield or Guard) will virus scan EVERY file your system reads, including those read by games like Oblivion. This is a MAJOR cause of stuttering in games. I use Avira Antivir (free) and ALL games (especially Oblivion because it's so taxing) used to stutter like mad until I configured Antivir Guard to exclude E: drive (on which my games are installed) from scanning. Since then, stuttering has been almost non-existent!

If your games are on C: drive, the only way around the stuttering is to disconnect from the Internet (pull the Broadband/Phone cable out of the back of your modem or router) and either disable or terminate the Antivirus, usually by right-clicking on its system tray icon and selecting a Disable or Exit option. Oblivion doesn't have multiplayer, so you don't need to be connected to the Internet while playing. After exiting Oblibivion, start the Antivirus up again, THEN re-connect to the Internet.

Another area is background programs that start via the registry Run key after Windows starts up, commonly termed "Startups". Many installed programs use the Run key to start superfluous little background utilities that sit in your system tray and which you never use. They can usually be safely disabled to save RAM & CPU time. Here is a good page that tells you how to use the MSCONFIG utility under Windows 7 to disable unnecessary "Startups". Go through the list on the Startup tab, make a note of everything with a tick next to it, then Google for them to find out what they do. Untick the unnecessary ones and reboot Windows. They'll no longer start automatically.

My Startups are limited to about 8 necessary utilities, most of which just run once then exit. I've disabled ALL the ones that place unnecessary junk in my system tray. There are just TWO necessary icons in there now, my Firewall and my Antivirus!

Hopefully, this will get your bloated 64-bit PC slimmed down and toned up so it runs WAY better than my old 32-bit one-legged dinosaur can. Currently, it's the opposite way around, and that SHOULDN'T be the case, not with that spec <drool, drool>! :wink:

Maxrebo · **Posted:** Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:43 pm

Thanks for the tips man I knew it was a good build but not that good.It was just a standard build they had at dell and one of the cheaper ones and I got gold.Well talk about luck.Also by any chance does anyone know a good battlespire build.

H8Ball · **Posted:** Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:31 am

Sorry. I just spotted something in your spec that may "burst the bubble". You state the Radeon HD 3400 as having 2041Mb of VRAM (Video RAM), which is a weird figure because VRAM amount is usually a power of two (i.e. 64Mb, 128Mb, 256Mb, 512Mb, 1024Mb=1Gb, etc, each 2x the previous). The nearest to your VRAM would be 2048Mb=2Gb. NO Radeon 3xxx series card would have that much. Even most top-end cards only have 1Gb!

Integrated chipsets are notoriously slow, and the high allocation of nearly 2Gb System RAM would explain why Oblivion is performing badly. Almost HALF your RAM is in use as "virtual" VRAM, then you have to figure for Windows using some, and any services and programs running under Windows. When Oblivion runs, there's insufficient RAM left and Windows starts paging memory blocks out to the Page File, resulting in almost constant disk access (called "disk thrashing")! While this is going on, Oblivion slows waaaaaay down and stutters like mad. In fact, ALL games will suffer the same problem to varying degrees.

Integrated video chipset drivers allocate shared System RAM, which means your GPU and CPU are both trying to use it via a single RAM controller. This is called "contention". While the CPU is using the RAM controller, the GPU is forced to wait its turn, and vice versa, so they're slowing each other down significantly. The only way to resolve this and get the best gaming performance is to buy a dedicated video card. These have the GPU, VRAM and VRAM controller ALL on a separate video card. It;s a "dedicated graphics computer on a card", with the GPU having exclusive access to VRAM via VRAM controller, and CPU having exclusive access to RAM via RAM controller. They're now "parallel computers" with ZERO contention, so both can run at full speed! Also, because there's no longer almost 2Gb RAM allocated as "virtual" VRAM, your WHOLE 4Gb RAM is free for use, not just 2Gb or so!

How to check: Select Run from your Start Menu and enter DXDIAG to run the DirectX Diagnostics Utility. Click the Save All Information button and save the DxDiag.txt file. Open it in Notepad and scroll down to the Display Devices section. If there's a Shared Memory entry, you have integrated video (slow). If there's NO Shared Memory entry, you have a dedicated video card (fast). I strongly suspect it will be integrated video, due to the odd VRAM amount.

How to solve: It's a goforyerwallet job, I'm afraid... Only a dedicated video card will resolve the contention and disk thrashing problems. Good news is you can pick up a decent Geforce 200 series or Radeon 4xxx series card fairly cheap nowadays, and they WILL run Oblivion at maxed out video settings.

Apart from that, your PC is a great build. Wish I had one. Trouble is they typically skimp on the video/sound cards, using integrated video/sound instead. Means they can get more profit because the PC is cheaper to build. The first thing hard-core gamers always do is to disable the integrated video/sound and fit decent dedicated video/sound cards instead. That's what I've done, and it's the main reason I get good performance on an older PC! :wink:

KrisCrash · **Posted:** Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:31 am

It's a good idea to get a graphics memory for this... Oblivion makes a lot of disk paging already for loading meshes and data, constantly. I have a brand new GPU but all the rest still makes my PC groan. Of course if it was a 64bit game ... >_>

Nice advice in here

Maxrebo · **Posted:** Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:53 pm

Which card is best the could thing is it is integrated but one of the seared to you motherboard types because when I had to clean the insides I could see the card can't mistake that ati video card red hue that and it said ati on it and was in the pci express or what ever is the newest type of slot.Not to make anyone else jealous but I guessing now other than the video card which still checks out on system requirements lab says crysis would run like butter and this pc cost less than $700 so you could imagine the look on my face. :shock:

Also can you recommend places to look and how much one would cost for a great one because my parents would have to buy it or I would once I get a job or some income because I almost 18.

Maxrebo · **Posted:** Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:09 pm

I found some good ones on newegg.But man some are more expensive then the computer.Is this a good one.
Brand EVGA
Model 512-P3-N871-AR
Interface
Interface PCI Express 2.0 x16
Chipset
Chipset Manufacturer NVIDIA
GPU GeForce 9800 GTX+
Core Clock 738MHz
Shader Clock 1836MHz
Stream Processors 128
Memory
Effective Memory Clock 2200MHz
Memory Size 512MB
Memory Interface 256-bit
Memory Type DDR3
3D API
DirectX DirectX 10
OpenGL OpenGL 3.1
Ports
DVI 2 x DVI
TV-Out HDTV / S-Video Out
General
RAMDAC 400 MHz
Max Resolution 2560 x 1600
RoHS Compliant Yes
SLI Support 3-Way SLI
Cooler With Fan
System Requirements Minimum of a 450 Watt power supply.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 24 Amp Amps.)
Minimum 550 Watt for SLI mode system.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 30 Amp Amps.)
Power Connector 6 Pin
Dual-Link DVI Supported Yes
HDCP Ready Yes
Card Dimensions Height: 4.376 in - 111.15 mm
Length: 10.5 in - 266.7 mm
Packaging
Package Contents 512-P3-N871-AR
Driver Disk
User Manual
Power Cable
DVI to VGA/D-sub Adapter
Manufacturer Warranty
Parts Lifetime limited
Labor Lifetime limited

H8Ball · **Posted:** Mon Jun 14, 2010 7:39 pm

Good card, and usually fairly cheap now that the 200 series is above it. But don't make any decision to buy just yet! We need to confirm a few things first...

Your 2nd last post is difficult to make sense of, first sentence being too long, unpunctuated and grammatically incorrect. You seem to be confirming that you DO have integrated video AND also a dedicated ATI video card in the PCI-E slot...

Some video drivers can allocate Shared Memory anyway, regardless of whether the video hardware is integrated or dedicated. If your ATI drivers have a "Use Shared Memory" option (or anything that reads "Allocate System RAM" or similar), you should disable it, reboot, run DXDIAG again, re-save a new DxDiag.txt file and see how much Display Memory it THEN states the card has. That will give you the REAL amount of dedicated VRAM. If it's at least 256Mb, you should be OK with the HD 3400.

Also, if you do indeed have a video card in your PCI-E slot, check your PC's BIOS settings and make sure the integrated video IS disabled. Normally, on installing a dedicated video card, it's auto-detected (presence of card in slot) and integrated video is overridden automatically because it's not needed (even though it reads as enabled in the BIOS, it's not actually in use). However, in rare cases, the integrated video remains enabled and conflicts with the dedicated video card. The best thing to do is to manually disable the integrated video to avoid any possibility of a conflict.

Can you post your DxDiag.txt file in [ spoiler] [ /spoiler] tags, please? I'll take a look and see if I can figure out what hardware you have and whether there's an obvious conflict.

Hope this helps. :wink:

Redguard Mage · **Posted:** Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:15 pm

I upgraded an old Gforce 5200 FX which could run most old games ok but it stood no chance with newer games. I was limited because I only have AGP slots but managed to find a Gforce 7600 GS with 512mg RAM. To seal the deal I noticed the ones with 256 RAM were the same price and one left with the 512. The box had some damage so it came with %10 off. £59 all in. I also upgraded the system RAM from 512 to 1.2 gig (2 x 512 and 1 x 256) For some reason when I added another 256 RAM stick to the forth slot it slowed the system down and I didn't want to keep swapping them around as I had no static matt.

Also, the watt output of my PSU is lower than the minimum requirement for the GPU but it works fine.

I'm not sure what significance the RAM is on a GPU but I imagine it takes a lot of strain off the processor. I can say this with confidence because I still only have a hyper-threaded P4 2.8GHz processor which is unheard of these days yet I can now run many resource-heavy games like Oblivion, COD4 and CoH all on very high settings with at least 30FPS.

My point is that for less than £100 I was able to upgrade my pc with a graphics card, 2 RAM sticks and a high speed optical drive. Its not a power house but it serves me. Laptops and towers that have 2gig+ RAM but with integrated graphics are mis-sold I think.

Maxrebo · **Posted:** Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:40 pm

Do you now how I would go about doing that it says I my vram is 2047mb and hyper memory.It's a dedicated card because I didn't turn of shared memory because I don't know how but dedicated memory is 249MB.Close but now cigar can you recommend a good card and a place to buy it unless this is good.Though with what you mentioned that pretty underhanded of them to do that, because if i gonna spend that much money I better get the value. They better not cheap on us that kind of stuff otherwise they need to be regulated and held accountable man can anyone sell an honest product anymore.

Prophet · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:53 am

Maxrebo wrote:

Do you now how I would go about doing that it says I my vram is 2047mb and hyper memory.

Perhaps I missed something, do what?

If you're asking about how to reduce your amount of shared video memory, you typically do that from the BIOS. The BIOS is what appears when you first turn on your computer, before Windows starts. (Typically you have to press F2 or some other key to access the BIOS menu.) This is not, however, always the case. I just purchased a new laptop which uses shared video memory and it automatically manages my memory, giving me no control whatsoever. :Angry:

Maxrebo wrote:

It's a dedicated card because I didn't turn of shared memory because I don't know how but dedicated memory is 249MB.

I've never heard of a video card with it's own dedicated video memory and shared memory. Perhaps someone can confirm or deny this possibility? I'll review your specs in more detail tomorrow... (It's almost 5AM here, prolly time to go to bed)

Maxrebo wrote:

can you recommend a good card and a place to buy it unless this is good

I pretty much always buy my computer parts at newegg.com - many people prefer tigerdirect.com because they are sometimes cheaper but I've had less-than-ideal experiences with them in the past. I'll find a card to suit your machine tomorrow...

Maxrebo wrote:

Though with what you mentioned that pretty underhanded of them to do that, because if i gonna spend that much money I better get the value. They better not cheap on us that kind of stuff otherwise they need to be regulated and held accountable man can anyone sell an honest product anymore.

Well I wouldn't consider it getting ripped off, really. You have to understand that video cards are really non-essential equipment for anyone who does not play video games. Video cards are sort of a 'niche' product, only for people that perform graphics-intensive operations such as video gaming, video editing, 3D animation, etc. The average user (i.e. document editors and web surfers) can get by just fine on integrated graphics and shared video memory.

Maxrebo · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:06 pm

Sorry for the bad grammar but I was never that good with that stuff.It is a dedicated card because its in the pci-e slot where most intergrated cards are part of the motherboard from what I here and hypermemory is something ati has where it allows the card to access the same ram as the rest of the computer along with its one VRAM.Dxdiag says my dedicated VRAM is 249mb.

Prophet · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:29 pm

Maxrebo wrote:

Sorry for the bad grammar but I was never that good with that stuff.It is a dedicated card because its in the pci-e slot where most intergrated cards are part of the motherboard from what I here and hypermemory is something ati has where it allows the card to access the same ram as the rest of the computer along with its one VRAM.Dxdiag says my dedicated VRAM is 249mb.

Okay that helps me understand

Just to clarify, "integrated graphics" means that the GPU is integrated into the motherboard, so integrated graphics are ALWAYS a part of the motherboard. So yes, your PCI-E card is a standalone video card.

Also, I'm not sure you actually need any new components. As others have already stated, your system is more than capable of running this game. I'm using a Radeon HD 3200 (compared to ur Radeon HD 3400) integrated with significantly less VRAM than you, and my game's graphics are acceptable. Of course my processor is a single-core 1.6Ghz instead of a dual-core 2.7Ghz (so my computer's processing power is roughly one fourth of yours) so the game lags a lot, but you should be having no trouble whatsoever.

Is there a specific problem with your game? Are loading screens taking forever? Does the game stutter when you're: indoors, in combat, etc.? Where exactly is the problem? There should be some software tweak which you can perform to make things run smoothly, but you'll need to provide more details on the issues you're having before I can help.

H8Ball · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:01 pm

How do you go about posting your DxDiag.txt? Select Run from your Start Menu and enter DXDIAG to run the DirectX Diagnostics Utility. Click the Save All Information button and save the DxDiag.txt file. Open it in Notepad, delete the Machine Name for security (no-one needs to know it), press Ctrl+A to select ALL text then press Ctrl+C to copy that text. In the forum editor, click the Spoiler button to insert [ spoiler] [/ spoiler] tags, put the cursor between them and press Ctrl+V to paste the text you copied. The correct position for the cursor is [ spoiler]|[ /spoiler] where | is the cursor.

For example: Here's the text from my DxDiag.txt file, enclosed in Spoiler tags to keep my post nice and short for other forum readers (my comments are in colour & prefixed by three asterisks ***):-

Spoiler:

PLEASE post your DxDiag.txt so I can help you further. If you're still uneasy about posting a long list of detailed system specs on a public forum, you could always post it in a PM (Private Message) to me and I'll treat it as completely confidential.

Hope this helps. :wink:

Maxrebo · **Posted:** Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:11 pm

The loading is fine but there is some lag at times,so I am trying to figure out how to fix it.Heres my dxdiag

Spoiler:

Now I just need redguard and I will have every game and so I can move onto morrowind,because I am so ocd about game order,I also should have not been so bored in english class but american school stinks especially in rhode island.

H8Ball · **Posted:** Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:32 am

Did you follow through my previous post which recommended disabling as many background Windows services/processes as possible? If not, have another read. It's amazing how much unnecessary junk Microsoft leave running by default! And, when manufacturers like Dell pre-install Windows for you, it's amazing how much of THEIR junk they "cram into the dumpster" as well, which makes the problem even worse!

Anyway, on to your DxDiag:-

Card name: ATI Radeon HD 3400 Series
Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x95C5)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Display Memory: 2041 MB <--- Sum of the two figures below
Dedicated Memory: 249 MB <--- Physical VRAM (if any) + driver-allocated non-pageable RAM (can't be paged out to Page File)
Shared Memory: 1791 MB <--- Driver-allocated pageable RAM (can be paged out)

Impossible to tell whether it's integrated or dedicated (the fault of DxDiag's wooly reporting). However, I've done some research for you and the HD 3400 only has a 64-bit memory bus (between GPU and VRAM), which neatly explains the slow performance because integrated video or low-end cards are 64-bit or 128-bit and mid-range or top-end cards are 256-bit or better.

A 256-bit bus transfers 256 bits in ONE operation, whereas a 64-bit bus takes FOUR operations to do the same, which is MUCH slower. The wider the memory bus, the better the card's performance. My 512Mb Geforce 7900GS is only one step down from the top-end 7900GT and thus has a 256-bit memory bus, one of the primary reasons I bought it. The performance difference is well worth it because I'm able to run Oblivion at near FULL details at 1360x768 and still get halfway decent framerates!

One thing I CAN tell from the above is that the Shared Memory is very likely due to ATI's Hypermemory. This is a fancy buzzword which basically means the ATI video driver WILL allocate RAM anyway in case the video card runs out of VRAM. Turbocache is nVidia's fancy buzzword which means the same thing as Hypermemory. Here's how it works:-

Physical VRAM = Amount the video device actually HAS on-board for its OWN use. For integrated video or low-end cards, as low as 64Mb, 32Mb or even NONE!
Dedicated Memory = Physical VRAM + driver-allocated non-pageable RAM
Shared Memory = Driver-allocated pageable RAM (excess paging causes slowdown/stutter)
Display Memory = Sum of Dedicated Memory and Shared Memory is the Hypermemory amount

Check your ATI Catalyst Control Panel and it will likely show Hypermemory = 2041Mb, giving NO indication of the actual Physical VRAM. I've found a way to find out how much Physical VRAM the card has, though. Go to Control Panel > Display and select the Adapter tab on the dialog that appears. Under Adapter Information, you'll see something like the following 4 entries listed:-

Total Available Graphics Memory: <sum of the three below, should match Hypermemory in ATI Control Panel>
Dedicated Video Memory: <driver-allocated non-pageable RAM>
System Video Memory: <actual Physical VRAM amount>
Shared System Memory: <driver-allocated pageable RAM>

Here is a picture of the dialog itself that one poster uploaded to ImageShack and provided a link to (it's under Vista, not 7, but the dialog shouldn't be too different, if at all). The figures in the picture show System Video Memory is ZERO, indicating integrated video with NO Physical VRAM. If yours is ZERO, Hypermemory should be left enabled. If it's at least 256Mb, Hypermemory could be safely disabled and Oblivion will still run OK. In either case, Hypermemory should be at least reduced by allocating less RAM.

As for HOW to disable or reduce Hypermemory, I've spent over an hour searching for answers on forums, etc, and I've drawn a blank. Many people have the same problems with Hypermemory even with top-end ATI cards, suffering system slowdowns and stuttering in games regardless of how much RAM they have, and they're asking how to reduce or disable it. Some answers say "ATI Tray Tools has an option to disable it", others say "Edit the Windows registry to disable it, but it only works for Windows XP" and I haven't found ANY answers specific to Windows Vista or 7. ATI's website has no information, either!

If there's no way to reduce or disable Hypermemory, the only option would be to switch to a video card whose driver DOESN'T allocate huge amounts of RAM! In any case, a video card "upgrade" will get shot of that slow 64-bit memory bus. Personally, I'd recommend a Geforce 200 series PCI-E card (better spec than the Geforce 9800 series). I've seen the 250 in PC World for £129 (about $200). You should be able to buy one on-line cheaper than that. Until then, you'll have to put up with slow performance and erratic stuttering certainly caused by that narrow 64-bit memory bus and possibly due to Hypermemory-induced paging.

Hope this helps. :wink:

Redguard Mage · **Posted:** Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:11 am

H8ball, you could help me build the ultimate PC machine!

I could win it all at Snooker!

Maxrebo · **Posted:** Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:29 am

The geoforce 9800 series 250, I will look that up.Sorry for not posting it spoiler area then but I was too busy watching the new Zelda video and eating my hat because of the ocarina of time remake.

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