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But they only increase magic skills so dose that mean you need to be powerful in magic to wear.

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But they only increase magic skills so dose that mean you need to be powerful in magic to wear.

I believe it raises the magic skills because the books themselves are talking about magical things. Portals, Daedra, and so on. So the idea is that you're learning something from reading the books. Like normal skill books if you read them.

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Some books in the game, while aren't connected to anything but add a background history to different things. Take mixed Unit Tactics, has nothing to do with anything current, funish read, does nothing for the game. Its purpose is to tell you about the history of the Empire.

This book my also serve as a source of information to some. It could serve as an explanation for why Mancar can wear the AoK. The books purpose beyond finding the place cannot be proven unless someone who made the game says one way or another. Now there may be no real answer for why Mancar can wear the Amulet with the information given to us about the amulet and about him, and we may never get a straight answer. This isn't always bad because it provides players with a chance to come up with our own answers

I think many of the answers mentioned if not all answers are pure speculation. How detailed people need their answers to be is connected to how much into the game they are and how much they care about this subject.


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a deadric prince has power beyond what is yet known


According to notes on the Tribunal, the Almsivi are actually more powerful than the Daedric Princes. Although, since they lost Sunder and Keening (and eventaully the Heart istelf :roll: ), they have grown into nothing, given into despair, reclused, and died. The Tribunal might be more powerful but the Daedra are longer lasting. However, I don't think the Daedras' power is more than what is known.

Probably not.

The notes were made by the Tribunal Temple. They essentially, distort the Tribunal's power, censor anything challenging that, and persecute anyone who does so, as well. But, yes, the Tribunal's power is close to nothing. Both Sotha Sil and Almalexia are dead, and Vivec is no where to be found. The Tribunal only serve as a figure in Dunmeri history, and off and on Tamriellic history.


Well considering that the three "good" Daedra Princes bacme Anticipations of the Tribunal, I'd think some Almsivi supremecy was not untrue; however, to support your argument, Azura, when the Tribunal spat in the Daedras' faces, turned the entire race of Chimer into Dunmer. Drawing from parallels of the Dwemer disappearance and contrasts by known Almsivi interevntions, the amount of power that it takes to manipulate every member of a specific race is far greater than what the Tribunal can perform. On the other hand, Vivec, alone, was able to maintain a reasonable barrier between the blighted Red Mountain and the rest of Vvardenfell in his weaker stages. I'm thinking that at the height of their power, the moments after they had forged the connection with the Heart, they might have been equal, or maybe even slightly more powerful, than the strength of the most involved Daedra Princes (Mephala, Boethiah, and Azura).

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While the Tribunal were powerful, I think the Chimer turning into Dunmer is something far above the Tribunal's powers. Also, wasn't the Ghost Fence a creation of the Dwemer? Or is that just to keep the Corprus beings out.

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The Gostfence was actually made after the Dwemer went god-knows-where.

I think, though, if they all three tried in unison, they could pull off something like a massive dermabrasion. :wink:

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The Gostfence was actually made after the Dwemer went god-knows-where.

I think, though, if they all three tried in unison, they could pull off something like a massive dermabrasion. :wink:

You good sir, proves my knowledge on lore needs to be buffed.

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Well think about it: Dagoth Ur wasn't a problem until after the Dwemer left. Since the Ghostfence was constructed to keep his blighting in, it makes sense that it was not a Dwemer creation.

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Alright, i have a theory:

If Tiber Septim did indeed become a Divine, then all his descendants carry Divine Blood, and so they can wear the Amulet, simply because they are descended from a Divine. If this is true, then Mankar Camoran should be able to wear the Amulet, because he has the Blood of a Daedra (I believe, or something equivalent to Daedric blood).


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Darkheart wrote:
Alright, i have a theory:

If Tiber Septim did indeed become a Divine, then all his descendants carry Divine Blood, and so they can wear the Amulet, simply because they are descended from a Divine. If this is true, then Mankar Camoran should be able to wear the Amulet, because he has the Blood of a Daedra (I believe, or something equivalent to Daedric blood).

How is Camoran related to Tiber Septim?

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Not to Tiber Septim,but to Mehrunes Dagon, who is a Daedra. Opposites, perhaps, but still both able to wear the Amulet.


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Darkheart wrote:
Not to Tiber Septim,but to Mehrunes Dagon, who is a Daedra. Opposites, perhaps, but still both able to wear the Amulet.

Mankar isn't related to Dagon. >.<

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That's what I was afraid of.
Who is he related to?


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That's what I was afraid of.
Who is he related to?

He's related to Cameron Usurper, and a bosmer woman. (Parents.)

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