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Which is better?
Ring of Hircine 55%  55%  [ 12 ]
Saviors Hide 45%  45%  [ 10 ]
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 Post subject: Ring of Hircine or Saviors Hide? *SPOILERS*
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Which did you choose? I'm having trouble choosing so I want to know, is one more valuable than the other? (I'm a major hoarder of unique items) Thanks in advance.
By the way, I am a werewolf.


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While I'd rather have the Cuirass of the Savior's Hide,
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I don't feel comfortable killing Sinding in cold blood.
So I usually end up with the ring, even though the Cuirass is worth more than six times as much.

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Gideon Dragontongue wrote:
While I'd rather have the Cuirass of the Savior's Hide,
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I don't feel comfortable killing Sinding in cold blood.
So I usually end up with the ring, even though the Cuirass is worth more than six times as much.

Thats my problem,while the hide is cool looking, I'm kinda sensitive about killing a guy who just needs a little help and is not bad at all.


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 Post subject: Re: Ring of Hircine or Saviors Hide? *SPOILERS*
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Which did you choose? I'm having trouble choosing so I want to know, is one more valuable than the other? (I'm a major hoarder of unique items) Thanks in advance.

You can actually get them both but it requires you to become a double crossing jack'''s.If thats ok with you I can tell you how.If you're the sensitive type then take the Ring

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 Post subject: Re: Ring of Hircine or Saviors Hide? *SPOILERS*
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Go ahead, I might as well know all my options.


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 Post subject: Re: Ring of Hircine or Saviors Hide? *SPOILERS*
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If he lacked the self-control and attacked a young girl, he lacks the self control to stay in his cave. If you worship Hircine, obviously kill him. The Ring of Hircine isn't really useful, but nither is the Savior's Hide. One transformation per day is typically plenty, but if you find yourself in need of more, take the ring. If you have no emotional connections to Hircine or a problem with killing the werewolf, you can get both. Depends what standpoint you want to take.


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")It is entirely possible to obtain both the Ring of Hircine as well as the Savior's Hide. In order to do so:
Help Sinding eliminate the remaining hunters.
Talk to Sinding and tell him you will spare his life.
Leave the cave, where you will meet the White Stag and receive the non-cursed version of Ring of Hircine.
Return to the cave, kill Sinding and take his hide."

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Thanks, I'll save first and see if I feel horrible about it later. :wink:


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Thanks, I'll save first and see if I feel horrible about it later. :wink:

Glad I coud be of assistance.

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 Post subject: Re: Ring of Hircine or Saviors Hide? *SPOILERS*
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Mefris Elmek wrote:
")It is entirely possible to obtain both the Ring of Hircine as well as the Savior's Hide. In order to do so:
Help Sinding eliminate the remaining hunters.
Talk to Sinding and tell him you will spare his life.
Leave the cave, where you will meet the White Stag and receive the non-cursed version of Ring of Hircine.
Return to the cave, kill Sinding and take his hide."


I've read this on the Wiki, and although I haven't done this quest yet, I am skeptical about this info. Shouldn't the quest be over and flagged as "Complete" once you obtain the Ring from the White Stag? I don't see how killing Sinding after the quest is completed will advance it into yet a further completed state.

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 Post subject: Re: Ring of Hircine or Saviors Hide? *SPOILERS*
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Evil-i wrote:
Mefris Elmek wrote:
")It is entirely possible to obtain both the Ring of Hircine as well as the Savior's Hide. In order to do so:
Help Sinding eliminate the remaining hunters.
Talk to Sinding and tell him you will spare his life.
Leave the cave, where you will meet the White Stag and receive the non-cursed version of Ring of Hircine.
Return to the cave, kill Sinding and take his hide."


I've read this on the Wiki, and although I haven't done this quest yet, I am skeptical about this info. Shouldn't the quest be over and flagged as "Complete" once you obtain the Ring from the White Stag? I don't see how killing Sinding after the quest is completed will advance it into yet a further completed state.


Nope, I can confirm from personal experience it works doing just that. I have both quest rewards myself.


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 Post subject: Re: Ring of Hircine or Saviors Hide? *SPOILERS*
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Evil-i wrote:
Mefris Elmek wrote:
")It is entirely possible to obtain both the Ring of Hircine as well as the Savior's Hide. In order to do so:
Help Sinding eliminate the remaining hunters.
Talk to Sinding and tell him you will spare his life.
Leave the cave, where you will meet the White Stag and receive the non-cursed version of Ring of Hircine.
Return to the cave, kill Sinding and take his hide."


I've read this on the Wiki, and although I haven't done this quest yet, I am skeptical about this info. Shouldn't the quest be over and flagged as "Complete" once you obtain the Ring from the White Stag? I don't see how killing Sinding after the quest is completed will advance it into yet a further completed state.

I wouldn't say its possible if I didn't do it myself Evil-i

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 Post subject: Re: Ring of Hircine or Saviors Hide? *SPOILERS*
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It worked out fine. Needless to say, I felt compelled to leave flowers by Sindings body :cry:


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 Post subject: Re: Ring of Hircine or Saviors Hide? *SPOILERS*
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It worked out fine. Needless to say, I felt compelled to leave flowers by Sindings body :cry:

Funny,I Ieft some Taproot. :lol: (Over encumbered,I had to leave something )

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 Post subject: Re: Ring of Hircine or Saviors Hide? *SPOILERS*
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Mefris Elmek wrote:
I wouldn't say its possible if I didn't do it myself Evil-i


Did I say it was impossible? No. I said I was skeptical. The info doesn't follow the usual logic of how quests are typically coded and brought to a conclusion. If the uncursed ring is one of two possible final rewards for ending this quest, it doesn't make sense to me that you could still continue this quest after it would have been flagged as Complete.

In short, what has been presented doesn't make sense in terms of how quests are supposed to play through and terminate. If this quest's code is bugged, so be it. There's no reason to jump on somebody's case for expressing an observation based on simple reasoning according to the info presented.

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Calm down everyone, its clearly a glitch and Evil has a valid point, but it does work.


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Evil-i wrote:
Mefris Elmek wrote:
I wouldn't say its possible if I didn't do it myself Evil-i


Did I say it was impossible? No. I said I was skeptical.

And all I said is that I don't recommend things that I haven't done because they may turn out to be untrue.
I don't understand why you think "I jumped on your case".I didn't jump on anyone's case.You misunderstand the meaning of what I said. :lol:

Sinding is scripted to have the Saviours Hide if he dies.By exiting and re-entering the cave this script becomes active again essentially negating the effect of the choice.
This has to be fixed

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The way it works is basically that there are separate stages for killing Sinding or helping him, but one path isn't closed out by starting the other, so by "finishing" it the helping way, and then going back and starting again, it's possible to get both.

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i guess the ring would be better if u want to get unlimited transformations but but i doubt the saviors hide will do much good for heavy armor characters like mine she doesn't use light armor

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I always get both.

Because I can.

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I chose the Hide. Not because I desire it over the ring, but because Sinding, despite being somewhat innocent in all this, uncontrollably turns into a bloodthirsty monster that mauls the faces off of others. Therefore I feel it is a necessity to slay him.

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It's a tough choice because I'd take the Savior's Hide over the Ring of Hircine any day, but in doing so you must act in a manner that is hard to justify in a Dentological or Virtue Ethicist approach. I certainly see that in Skyrim, siding with the Daedra is actually quite morally difficult, as demonstrated by quests like this and Azura's, whereby the better items take the darker route, and by quests like Namira's and Boethiah's, which are down-right evil.

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I can see why people wouldn't go for the Hide, as they have to kill Sinding to get to it. But there is also a quite common glitch that will make a new Sinding appear in the world after the quest. Take my game, for example. I completed the quest, allowing Sinding to live. A few months later, I went back into the Falkreath jail. For some reason, Sinding was in his cell in werewolf form. He wouldn't follow me out of the cell, but spawned inside the barracks with me, and then again out in the town. The guards and people didn't seem to care that a werewolf had just appeared in their town, but he still ran off towards the cave. So basically, you can kill him, but then the game will re-spawn him like you never did.

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i cant vote because there is no both option

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Both is really the only option for me as well, I must obey the will of Hircine but why not hunt them all and claim the ability to unleash the wolf endlessly? However...I'm not pleased at the nerfing. 60% magic resistance down to this sillyness? Why is the Hide losing it's power?

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