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Author:  SnowElf24 [ Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:52 am ]
Post subject:  dwemer theory *spoilers*
just finished the lost to the ages quest added with the dawnguard expansion. at the end you get 3 choices of things to craft from the atherium, i saved befor and had a look at all three. When i was using the staff i noticed that when u summon the automatons they seem to appear through time if anyone gets what i mean. It looks just like the time wound upon the throat of the world. Just wanted to see if anyone else noticed because like others i really wanna know what happened to the dwemer.
Author:  Kestral [ Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: dwemer theory *spoilers*
According to lore, all of the Dwemer on Tamriel disappeared and/or disintegrated into ash. (See: Tribunal, Morrowind) This happened when the tools of Lorkhan were made.
Author:  philfredobob [ Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:54 pm ]
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Kestral wrote:
According to lore, all of the Dwemer on Tamriel disappeared and/or disintegrated into ash. (See: Tribunal, Morrowind) This happened when the tools of Lorkhan were made.


Dont you mean it happened when they were Used ? not when they were made ?
Author:  Br3admax [ Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: dwemer theory *spoilers*
I think they tried to escape Mundas by fusing into their god, the Brass Tower, i.e. Numidium.
Author:  SajuukKhar [ Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:12 pm ]
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Br3admax has the right of it.

The currently most accepted theory, the one that Bethesda seemingly confirmed in Skyrim, is that the entirety of the Dwemer race, except Yagrum, were fused into their giant god robot Numidium, and became its brass skin.

Numidium was destroyed by The Underking, although he had destroyed it before and The Empire rebuilt it.
Author:  Pilaf The Defiler [ Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:59 am ]
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The Numidium is also currently not physically present on Nirn. Its whereabouts is unknown.
Author:  SajuukKhar [ Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:30 am ]
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Actually it is both on Nirn and not.

There is a time-echo version of the Numidium, from when Tiber turned it on, still fighting the Altmer time-mages in the siege of Alinor, something it will continue to do well into the 5th era.

And there is the actual Numidium whose body was destroyed somewhere in the Illiac bay area, and whose pieces are presumably somewhere in that area still.
Author:  Pilaf The Defiler [ Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:00 am ]
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Or are they? DUN DUN DUNNNNNNN
Author:  Br3admax [ Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:03 am ]
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Pilaf The Defiler wrote:
Or are they? DUN DUN DUNNNNNNN

Time to ask MK, his word is law, and he writes Elder Scrolls.
Author:  Pilaf The Defiler [ Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:06 am ]
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Br3admax wrote:
Pilaf The Defiler wrote:
Or are they? DUN DUN DUNNNNNNN

Time to ask MK, his word is law, and he writes Elder Scrolls.


I wish there was a jpeg of Talos doing a facepalm, because I'd have posted that just now.
Author:  Br3admax [ Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:15 am ]
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Why would he face palm whe he's got this.
Spoiler:
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Author:  Pilaf The Defiler [ Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:24 am ]
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^ That guy is too busy directly quoting MK's forum posts to facepalm. ;)
Author:  Gideon Dragontongue [ Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:35 am ]
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MK is a menace. It seems to me like it's almost reached the point where, when there's multiple theories on a certain subject, and MK appears to confirm one of them, you can wager that Bethie's official direction will not be that.
Author:  SajuukKhar [ Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:41 am ]
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Bethesda has yet to take an official stance on anything that contradicts MK, if anything, they have gotten ever increasingly more supportive of his theories.

Pilaf The Defiler wrote:
Or are they? DUN DUN DUNNNNNNN

Well, IIRC The Greybeards say the dragonborn's arrival coincides with the turning of the era.

The 5th era may well be upon us soon, so Numidium may stop.
Author:  Mattbott [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: dwemer theory *spoilers*
the Aetherium forge makes an item which summons a dwemer robot, a crown which uses magic powers more efficiently in allowing you to store two stone powers at once. Both of these are skills/abilities we know the dwemer had

the shield tho is a bit of a mystery to me, the idea that you strike an enemy and make them ethereal is a new power for the dwemer to have. It got me thinking that perhaps they were experimenting with the etherial and perhaps this is what happened to them
Author:  Imperfect Three [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:20 pm ]
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There could also be other Dwemer like Yagrum that weren't on Nirn at the time of the disappearance who just haven't come back yet.
Author:  Goldbrand [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:15 pm ]
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Isn't it the quest in the college of winterhold when one of the mages tried to recreate the dissapearance of the dwemer using keening and a charged corrupted soul gem to replicate the heart. The first two strikes it does nothing, and on the third when he REALLY hits it, there's a blinding flash of light and he disappears without trace. The explaination given is the fact that the power in the corrupted soul gem was only enough to "transport" or kill or whatever happens, that one mage, whereas something the size and power of the heart of Lorkhan could wipe out the entire race.
Author:  Mattbott [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:05 pm ]
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maybe the black soul gem traps him as well, cos the dwemer are able to squeeze twice the magic into a small space (see aetherium crown)

i need to do that quest
Author:  SajuukKhar [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: dwemer theory *spoilers*
Goldbrand wrote:
Isn't it the quest in the college of winterhold when one of the mages tried to recreate the dissapearance of the dwemer using keening and a charged corrupted soul gem to replicate the heart. The first two strikes it does nothing, and on the third when he REALLY hits it, there's a blinding flash of light and he disappears without trace. The explaination given is the fact that the power in the corrupted soul gem was only enough to "transport" or kill or whatever happens, that one mage, whereas something the size and power of the heart of Lorkhan could wipe out the entire race.

No explanation is given at all for Aurinel's Endeavor, especially not "it could only transport or kill him".

The explanation, if any, that was given was that it causes people to become bound to the closest divine source. In the mages case it was you, the closest peron with divine blood, in the Dwemer's case it would be the god-machine Numidium.
Author:  howiesoares [ Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:50 am ]
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I am still starting this one.
Author:  RedDeadFred [ Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:48 am ]
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SajuukKhar wrote:
Goldbrand wrote:
Isn't it the quest in the college of winterhold when one of the mages tried to recreate the dissapearance of the dwemer using keening and a charged corrupted soul gem to replicate the heart. The first two strikes it does nothing, and on the third when he REALLY hits it, there's a blinding flash of light and he disappears without trace. The explaination given is the fact that the power in the corrupted soul gem was only enough to "transport" or kill or whatever happens, that one mage, whereas something the size and power of the heart of Lorkhan could wipe out the entire race.

No explanation is given at all for Aurinel's Endeavor, especially not "it could only transport or kill him".

The explanation, if any, that was given was that it causes people to become bound to the closest divine source. In the mages case it was you, the closest peron with divine blood, in the Dwemer's case it would be the god-machine Numidium.

Wow, that actually makes a lot of sense. That would explain why you gain the ability to summon Aurinel.
Author:  Mattbott [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: dwemer theory *spoilers*
Goldbrand wrote:
and on the third when he REALLY hits it, there's a blinding flash of light and he disappears without trace.


dose he leave behind a pile of ashes ?

thats a big piece of forensic evidence from TES3 (imo the falmer got rid of the skyrim ashes in a huge spring clean)
Author:  Goldbrand [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: dwemer theory *spoilers*
Mattbott wrote:
Goldbrand wrote:
and on the third when he REALLY hits it, there's a blinding flash of light and he disappears without trace.


dose he leave behind a pile of ashes ?

thats a big piece of forensic evidence from TES3 (imo the falmer got rid of the skyrim ashes in a huge spring clean)

No ashes, he disappears entirely without trace, leaving the gem and keening clattering to the floor.
Author:  Mattbott [ Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: dwemer theory *spoilers*
hmmm

whilst i would love the dwemer to return or some crazy snow elf invade tamreil with a horde of automatons (like hellboy golden army), i think they are far more fun as a mystery - in fact, i would say the dwemer are the most culturally distinctive race in the game
Author:  jros83 [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:18 am ]
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the Dwemer are a massive plot device and will make no overt appearances in any future installment of TES. the "truth" of what happened to them is, and will always be, purposely vague, as the best "fluff" is always vague "fluff."

this isn't my wish at all, and it would be nice if I end up being wrong.

that's my 0.02 Septims
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