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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:58 pm 
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I envy you people for having the patience to do this. I've tried so many times to roleplay this game but it's too hard for me to do, because after a while I just want to finish the quests and I end up rushing through dungeons, don't sleep, eat and the whole roleplay thing is gone. So for you roleplay experts, this is what I'm planning for my new character. I'm on PC so I'm gonna use these mods: RaceMenu, Frostfall, Immersive armors and weapons, Cloaks of Skyrim, Norther ranger campingkit and some bugfix and graphic mods.

My character will be a Mage, not sure about the race but not a Nord, feeling lonely in a land that does not like her and does not understand magic. She will be staying out of the cities mostly camping in the wilds and setting traps to catch her own food (yay for the norther ranger mod). She will wander Skyrim asking people about magic, ending up Winterhold to join the mages guild. Because people shun upon magic she might turn out to be pretty evil, maybe joining the DB after the mages guild. I like the idea of collecting Dwemer objects so I'm definitely saving Dwemer stuff that I find. But I still need a convenient safe storage place near Winterhold to save my precious items.

Any expert tips on making this more interesting?

The wardrobes and nightstands in your room at the college are safe for storage, as far as I know.

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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
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Everything except the barrels in the room they give to you is safe for storage, IIRC.


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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
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I fast travel and sleep/eat whenever, but I will roleplay characters by acting out preferences - favorite towns, followers, merchants. My Khajiits buy from the caravans, my Bosmer archer frequents The Drunken Huntsman. For many of my characters, I choose a few NPCs who will be their closest friends. I avoid leveling up skills I want a character to be "bad" at. I've walked into spike wall traps on purpose to roleplay someone kind of stupid.

I like to give my favorite followers appropriate gifts, if a character is the gifting type. It serves no real purpose to put moon sugar and a copy of Ahzirr Traajijazeri in J'zargo's inventory, but happy birthday dude.

I will also let a character's personality change over time according to events in-game. A meaner character became more compassionate after seeing good people die, a loner starting looking for love after doing The Book of Love, and another grew far more cynical after multiple betrayals.

Oh, and none of my characters join all the guilds. Two at most. I don't have any werewolf assassin college thieves.


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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
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I'm roleplaying for my first time on my current Bosmer hunter, Thorinaer. As a hunter I keep him in armor that can only be made out of what he kills; fur, hide, etc. Currently he has Savior's Hide as a reward for the hunt of all hunts. Has not joined any guilds but might become a mercenary Companion but most likely join the ranks of the Thieves Guild. He carries his hunting bow that will never depart from him as he's had it since he was a lad and also carries his trusty hatchet (steel war axe). He eats and sleeps but also has some sleepless nights when something troubles him.

All of this on the 360. It really just depends on creating a character that you'll like playing and you don't have to sit there and think about a backstory or "would he do this". It's just like writing lyrics, poetry or a book. Whatever flows out of your heart will usually work best.

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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
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I like that last line you wrote, Zack. Roleplay ideas will just pop into your head and it all pieces together.

Console, absolutely the pc needs best friends to share secrets with over a tasty ale. My characters also have friends they visit in certain towns when they are in the area and people they prank. Oh yeah. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:21 am 
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I had this whole post typed up this morning and my school's wi-fi ate it when I tried submitting it. Gah. (Started typing it in one building, moved to a different one and lost the wi-fi signal which evidently logged me out. Didn't know that until I hit "submit" without copying my post first.) Now that I'm over my annoyance I'll try re-creating it as best I can.


I do a bit of roleplaying on my character. I don't bother with worrying about food, but my way of playing is normally to try and not fast-travel unless the location is really far away and there's not a convenient way of getting to it. I prefer carriages and riding my horse. I also try and have my character realistically travel only during the day - at night she'll stop at an inn and either rent a bed or just hang out, or if she owns a home in the town she'll sleep. If she's traveling and not waiting for the shops to open she leaves town around 6am as the sun is rising so she can make the most of her day. No matter whether staying the night or not, though, she loves the inns and will always stop by if she's in town in order to buy a drink and sit around the fire and listen to the bards sing. And there's a couple friends she visits from time to time as well. If an enemy tells her that they yield, she'll yield as well. Mostly bandits are just faking it and will attack again, but occasionally they'll mean it and run, and Alarra lets them go (unless they were attacking her homestead; she shows no mercy when her family is in danger). Once I even had a thief that stopped fighting me, and I healed him and he thanked me and gave me the generic friendly greetings after that.

One of the most memorable parts to me was when I first got the game and didn't even know about the "wait" or "fast travel" features. It was kind of enforced roleplaying, plus I was just mesmerized by how detailed the world was, NPCs following their own schedules and all; Skyrim was my first Elder Scrolls game. Those first few hours of playing are some of the most vivid to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:40 am 
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I like this thread; it's interesting that quite a few people share the habits of eating and drinking. Like Alarra above me, stopping at inns of a night when upon the road has become totally natural to me. It was a habit I got into when doing the Pilgrimage quest in TES Oblivion that I have never been able to shake.

The inns of Skyrim add a lot to the RP atmosphere for my current character. I'm sick of hearing Ragnar the Red though.


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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
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Niid Onikaan wrote:
I like this thread; it's interesting that quite a few people share the habits of eating and drinking. Like Alarra above me, stopping at inns of a night when upon the road has become totally natural to me. It was a habit I got into when doing the Pilgrimage quest in TES Oblivion that I have never been able to shake.

The inns of Skyrim add a lot to the RP atmosphere for my current character. I'm sick of hearing Ragnar the Red though.


You and the shieldmaiden Matilda would probably get along well. :D

I've been getting into the RP stuff a bit lately, albeit "enforcing" it with needs mods + Frostfall. I know this doesn't go for everyone, but for me it's more enjoyable when there are some concrete measures in place forcing me to stick to that style.


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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
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YES!! UP DATE THE [&@%!] PUB MUSIC. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
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Don't think a patch that adds music will be available soon. Maybe as part of a bards DLC though. But I really can't complain about the music, there's about four hours of music in this game which is more than most games


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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
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Hrolf Alfblod wrote:
When I play my main, one of the things I make sure to do is play his worship of Talos. When coming across a shrine in his travels, he will stop and pray for an hour or more. Whenever in Whiterun, he will listen to the sermons of Heimskr, sometimes all day. Before a battle he'll spend the night before, praying, in the Temple of Talos in Windhelm.


How does he react when Thalmor ask him wether he worships Talos ? I suppose he can't lie about this.

Concerning RP, I played a lot of table top RPGs and I never forced my players to mention eating or sleeping. We found that making decision at important moments was more meaningful for their roleplay experience. Which may be the flaw of TES (and FO : NV's biggest advantage) : even though we are free to do a lot of things, are choices in quests are limited or have little consequences on the flow of events.

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 Post subject: Re: I can't not roleplay
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Elenath wrote:
I once heard a distinction I really liked: "Micro" roleplaying versus "Macro" roleplaying. Micro is paying attention to food and sleep and little details like that. Macro refers to overall character, which quests you take and which people you kill and so on. Big decisions.

I tend towards macro roleplaying,



yeah i'm also a macro roleplayer, though i do like to pick up unique items to remind me of places (eg a roast head and leg of beef from Sovngard which i have on my dining room table in my first home, stuff like that)

in do all my eating and sleeping and walking the dog in RL

once i have played a character through the game once, i like being able to plot a new characters course through the game, eg the sort of things he'll do, which quests he'll accept and the groups he'll align with - which quests would be good as a mage or as a stealthy character, that sort of thing.. that's the longevity of the game and where character specialisation comes in for me


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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
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Black_Dog wrote:
Hrolf Alfblod wrote:
When I play my main, one of the things I make sure to do is play his worship of Talos. When coming across a shrine in his travels, he will stop and pray for an hour or more. Whenever in Whiterun, he will listen to the sermons of Heimskr, sometimes all day. Before a battle he'll spend the night before, praying, in the Temple of Talos in Windhelm.


How does he react when Thalmor ask him wether he worships Talos ? I suppose he can't lie about this.

Concerning RP, I played a lot of table top RPGs and I never forced my players to mention eating or sleeping. We found that making decision at important moments was more meaningful for their roleplay experience. Which may be the flaw of TES (and FO : NV's biggest advantage) : even though we are free to do a lot of things, are choices in quests are limited or have little consequences on the flow of events.

They don't have time to ask, as he tends to kill them on sight.

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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
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I roleplay everything, like the roleplaying page, albeit for oblivion it works out the same, says so

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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
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I've gotten into the habit of Roleplaying properly, as a khajit ranger, I'll aim to be the best shot possible. Planning on starting a nord stormcloak who only uses what he can loot from his enemys. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
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I originally intended for my new Bosmer archer/thief to just be another (ordinary) citizen of Skyrim, but I had this idea that what if she was just ignorant of her Dragonborn nature for the longest time and eventually came to realize it? With the dlc coming out soon, I'm thinking of having her explore the island anyway.

Does anyone have roleplay suggestions for this?

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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
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You don't have to be dragonborn to go to solstheim, but the things to do are much more limited if you aren't.


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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
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So I've read, although that's not the reason why I'm doing it. Perhaps its because she keeps coming across these wordwalls in abundance.

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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
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Or she got bored of Skyrim and wanted to go to Morrowind?


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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
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I think for me the Civil War remains the biggest challenge to RP in Skyrim but not necessarily in a bad way. Choosing a side based on what you think your character would do despite what you already know from previous experience is a hard call to make, espescially how after the questline is completed the gameworld has changed quite a bit.

I had a hard time choosing a side for my Swordthane due to the emphasis I put on loyalty to his Jarls. Coupled with his respect for strength and never refuse a fight mindset, his respect for Balgruuf wavered because of that Jarl's refusal to pick a side. Liking Balgruuf as I do and knowing what side he eventually chooses I was tempted to not choose a side at all and remain neutral despite how out of character that would be.

Anyone else have a hard time roleplaying through the Civil War unless you make a character specifically for it?


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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
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My Altmer main eventually went imperial - in her opinion, while she doesn't believe in Talos as a god, the humans have every right to believe in him, and she would fight against the Thalmor for their right to do so, but she knows that the humans need every ally they can get, and fighting a pointless civil war only leads to a Thalmor victory if the stormcloaks win.

Also, the stormcloaks wanted to attack Whiterun. Since she lives there and loves the city, she kind of had only one option.

Galmar being an utter Cee yoU Next Tuesday towards her didn't help their chances of securing her help.

ETA - She did do the stormcloak questline once, but couldn't live with herself after deposing Jarl Balgruuf... (She got him to execute her for treason. And then restarted.)


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I think it's fair to say that I didn't do much role-playing with Oblivion; quests were chosen more to suit the preferences of the player instead of the character. When I graduated to Skyrim, I envisioned three separate characters, only two of which I have actually started. My first Skyrim character didn't bother much with sleeping and eating beyond the game effects of Lover's Comfort and Homecooked Meals.

With my current Skyrim character, I started out developing distinct opinions on every NPC with whom he had protracted interactions. I had a backstory with some grievances and idiosyncracies, but more importantly he let NPCs and events alter his character. This process is more genuine when I'm following a quest I've never done before, so my character tends to "subconsciously" avoid questlines that previous characters have completed.

The biggest aid has been using the Journal feature over on Elder Stats. Not only does it force me to keep realtime notes, it prods me to pay attention to where my character sleeps each night (I don't know if I'll start tracking meals). Another option has been to record observations by NPCs, giving my character's relationships more dimensions.

As to the Civil War, my current character started with a chip on his shoulder against the Empire, and the injustice of Helgen should give all the justification anyone might need for joining the Stormcloaks. At first he was just about revenge and cruelty, which ought to have precluded Galmar from letting him take the oath. But falling in love with a Nord turned out to be a sufficient proxy for desiring the "Liberation" of Skyrim. If he hadn't married Ysolda, he might never have taken sides.

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 Post subject: Re: Roleplaying in Skyrim
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I fast travel and sleep/eat whenever, but I will roleplay characters by acting out preferences - favorite towns, followers, merchants. My Khajiits buy from the caravans, my Bosmer archer frequents The Drunken Huntsman. For many of my characters, I choose a few NPCs who will be their closest friends. I avoid leveling up skills I want a character to be "bad" at. I've walked into spike wall traps on purpose to roleplay someone kind of stupid.

I like to give my favorite followers appropriate gifts, if a character is the gifting type. It serves no real purpose to put moon sugar and a copy of Ahzirr Traajijazeri in J'zargo's inventory, but happy birthday dude.

I will also let a character's personality change over time according to events in-game. A meaner character became more compassionate after seeing good people die, a loner starting looking for love after doing The Book of Love, and another grew far more cynical after multiple betrayals.

Oh, and none of my characters join all the guilds. Two at most. I don't have any werewolf assassin college thieves.

This is pretty much how I do it. I don't have patience for scheduled eating/sleeping. My roleplaying is almost solely focused on personality and traits. I give them more or less imaginative friends, favorite towns/places, etc and I never make one character join all the guilds. There's certain ways I play them. Like... Yakov avoids unnecessary conflicts so when I play as him I won't randomly attack anyone. Not even Nazeem or other annoying characters since Yakov thinks getting angry over petty insults is a sign of weakness. Asul instead acts totally unplanned and may kill someone just because he "felt like it". His head is supposed to have few screws loose so I deliberately make him do stupid things. I also created a fanatical Stormcloak lady who I shall play as someone who's very stereotypical and prejudiced. Meaning: she shall avoid places inhabitated by elves, imperials, etc and attacks Thalmor patrols on sight. Especially if they have a nord prisoner.


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