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 Post subject: Re: Stormcloaks (Club/Faction)
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:31 am 
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On another topic, who do we think the Blades would support in the civil war? (Ignoring the actions or decisions of a Dragonborn)

The Blades have made it clear that their sole purpose on Mundus is to serve the Dragonborn (although I have to admit that they have a funny way of showing obedience :lol: ) so I guess they will follow him wherever he chooses to go.

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Unless he refuses to do something they want him to do.

Whats happening in terms of the video, so far song sugestions are "The Sacred War" or "The Age of Oppression", anything else?

Any suggestions for content. It would be really easy to make a video from screen shots of all our characters. A little more work would be to make it from videos of our characters fighting the war.

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Hmmm, I may be wrong but I though they were disbanded as part of the WGC. I think re-guarding the Mede empire there is no alliance or loyalty with the blades. They do hate the Thalmor though and as Talos was a Dragonborn they would probably have served him at one stage assuming they go back that far. I think they would assist whomever was willing to fight the Thalmor (which is not the Empire), its probably safe to assume there is a large number of them, if not splintered and disorganised left in Hammerfell.


They have existed since the Second Empire, as the Dragonguard. And yes they did serve Talos. The Remanada gives evidence of this.


As for video content, I personally think it would depend on the song. I think an army of Stormcloaks marching (in formation) through the streets of the major cities, footage of Stormcloaks flooding into Whiterun and Solitude, and ultimately, the execution of Tullius (perhaps he is decapitated in front of the people of solitude?).

I think something specifically we can do is, perhaps having a line of Imperial soldiers drawn up, only to be crushed by a Stormcloak charge.

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 Post subject: Re: Stormcloaks (Club/Faction)
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Talos made the Blades, an official organization, after the Sacking of Sancor Tor, they were only the Dragonguard before that. The Blades have only "served" the Septim Emperors, but the organization itself only serves it's own purposes. With Alduin dead, I doubt they will help the Stormcloaks.

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 Post subject: Re: Stormcloaks (Club/Faction)
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Talos made the Blades, an official organization, after the Sacking of Sancor Tor, they were only the Dragonguard before that. The Blades have only "served" the Septim Emperors, but the organization itself only serves it's own purposes. With Alduin dead, I doubt they will help the Stormcloaks.


Yes, but my point was they will probably not help the Empire. Thus I think they'd be rather neutral.

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 Post subject: Re: Stormcloaks (Club/Faction)
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"I'm part of a group that's been looking for you... well, someone like you, for a very long time. If you really are Dragonborn, that is.

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"I'm one of the last members of the Blades. A very long time ago, the Blades were dragonslayers, and we served the Dragonborn, the greatest dragonslayer. For the last two hundred years, since the last Dragonborn emperor, the Blades have been searching for a purpose. Now that dragons are coming back, our purpose is clear again. We need to stop them."

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"Exactly. Nobody even remembers our name these days. We used to be known across Tamriel as the protectors of the Septim Emperors. Those days are long gone, though. For the last two hundred years, we've been searching for the next Dragonborn to guide and guard, as we are sworn to do. But we never found one. Until now."

Three things give the Blades purpose :The Dragonborn,dragons and the Thalmor.
They will not serve anyone except the Dragonborn so they will not help either the Empire or the Stormcloaks.
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Unless he refuses to do something they want him to do.

Fear is what drove them to make such a stand in regards to Paarthurnax
(Both Arngeir and Paarthurnax himself acknowledge that their fear is understandable.)
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The Blades have only "served" the Septim Emperors, but the organization itself only serves it's own purposes.

I can't fathom what gave you that idea.

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 Post subject: Re: Stormcloaks (Club/Faction)
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Uh, who hired the assassin that killed Reman Cyrodiil, the Blades, who threatens to not help you unless you do what they want, the Blades. Whose very reason for even coming to this land was finding someone to kill Alduin, the Blades. Just because they say something, it doesn't make it true.

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 Post subject: Re: Stormcloaks (Club/Faction)
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Uh, who hired the assassin that killed Reman Cyrodiil, the Blades, who threatens to not help you unless you do what they want, the Blades. Whose very reason for even coming to this land was finding someone to kill Alduin, the Blades. Just because they say something, it doesn't make it true.


At the risk of starting a "Blades V Greybeards" argument, I will say that firstly, Versidue-Shaie hired the Tong to kill Reman, not the Dragonguard.

Secondly, he was not the only one after the blood of Reman III.

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 Post subject: Re: Stormcloaks (Club/Faction)
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He was still part of the same group, with the same agenda, and what about the other stuff?

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 Post subject: Re: Stormcloaks (Club/Faction)
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He was still part of the same group, with the same agenda, and what about the other stuff?


I won't debate the other stuff, they are true (But I can't see their desire to kill Alduin as a bad thing).

And yes, he was part of the group, but what evidence is there that the dragonguard wanted Reman dead. He was a rogue who wanted to advance his own position.

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 Post subject: Re: Stormcloaks (Club/Faction)
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And installed a whole line of rogues, "When the Dragonborn Ruler loses his throne..." They just got the wrong Dragonborn Ruler.

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 Post subject: Re: Stormcloaks (Club/Faction)
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Uh, who hired the assassin that killed Reman Cyrodiil, the Blades, who threatens to not help you unless you do what they want, the Blades. Whose very reason for even coming to this land was finding someone to kill Alduin, the Blades. Just because they say something, it doesn't make it true.

Exactly what I thought,you are basing your argument on two incidents and a handful of people while neglecting thousands of years of history,deeds and the other Blades you meet in TES games (especially Oblivion).

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 Post subject: Re: Stormcloaks (Club/Faction)
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Where else do I gain evidence for an in-game group, than constantly in-game proof, over a more than a millennium.

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 Post subject: Re: Stormcloaks (Club/Faction)
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I wasn't aware that the assassination of the Reman Emperor was featured in-game (as in you being there and seeing what happened).

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 Post subject: Re: Stormcloaks (Club/Faction)
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That is not what in-game proof mean, an in-game book is in-game. And it is not a bias one.

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 Post subject: Re: Stormcloaks (Club/Faction)
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You know as much as I do that books can be biased and I wasn't saying that actually being there is the only way you can give valid proof.Still,you have two games in which you can see that the Blades are exactly how the books portray them and one with a different,yet similar,portrayal of them (caused by the war,paranoia and the fact that there are only two Blades still alive).
So,again,I don't see were you came up with that conclusion.

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 Post subject: Re: Stormcloaks (Club/Faction)
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Stormcloaks in this thread guys.

As for the video are we all going to record a few bits of footage each and then edit them together or is it going be one person making it?

I also made a new character recently and as I have pretty much never made a mage I thought I would make one, but since its a mage I choose High Elf :? How could I make him join the Stormcloaks RP wise?

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As for the video are we all going to record a few bits of footage each and then edit them together or is it going be one person making it?

I also made a new character recently and as I have pretty much never made a mage I thought I would make one, but since its a mage I choose High Elf :? How could I make him join the Stormcloaks RP wise?


In regards to the video, I'm useless with technology, but I think I can give some ideas.

In regards to the reign of Versidue-Shaie, he ruled from the beginning of the Second Era for 324 years (Given that the Tsaesci are often refereed to as 'Vampire-snakes', this may very well have been possible), and had one successor. That's not a line of rogues.

Regardless, even if he did start a long dynasty, that's not to say the Dragonguard wanted to rule Tamriel. Its much more likely that he was acting on his own ambition (and his actions as ruler support this).


In regards to the Altmer Stormcloak:

"Even and Elf can be born with the heart of a Nord".

Perhaps you backstory could involve having troubles with the Imperials and the Thalmor. Perhaps you always felt in a hostile environment in Summerset Isle, and decided to move away, eventually landing in Skyrim (walking into an Imperial trap).

You follow Hadvar out (as the Thalmor and Imperials may both want you dead), and befriend both him, and the land of Skyrim. You join the College of Winterhold, and you realise that Skyrim is your true homeland. For this reason, you join the Stormcloaks.

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I'm not looking to join your club. But I wanted to take the survey to shape my current character backstory, I thought I'd post my answers as it is nice to share.

1. Why did you choose to side with the Stormcloaks?
That [&@%!] Legion Captain tried to kill me for deserting the Legion

2. Who is your favourite (in-game) Stormcloak or Stormcloak supporter?
Ralof

3. What do you make/think of the Markarth Incident?
I don’t

4. What are your feelings towards the White-Gold Concordat and ultimately the surrender of the Empire that ended the great war?
Spineless [&@%!] giving in to damn elves

5. Do you hate elves/outsiders?
Who doesn’t hate elves/I am an outsider

6. Is there anything special you do when playing a Stormcloak character (roleplaying-wise)?
Nothing really I’m an assassin not a soldierr

7. What is your favourite Stormcloak related quote?
Can’t think of one right now, maybe DAMN ELVES

8. Do you think an independent Skyrim under Ulfric would be stronger than one united with the Empire?
Weaker, Ulfric is a total pillock only surpassed in idiocy by Galmor Thunder Butt

9. Have you ever completed the Imperial side of the civil war?
Yes, lots of times, I prefer to play as an imperial because Ulfric and Galmor are such utter knobs

10. If you talked to Torygg in Sovngarde during the quest "Sovngarde" what did you make of his words and how it related to Ulfric?
I’ve never found him


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I'm not looking to join your club.


He doesn't want to join, was just taking our survey. Thank you Stormborn for contributing to our thread.

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Ah sorry about that :lol: It was late and I was tired.

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I'm interested in the exact nature of the Bard rank.

I know I've recently been promoted to Snow-Hammer, however, I'm wondering.

While it obvious that they have a musical background, on a few occasions, it is indicated that they are more than musicians. It is implied by the college and some of its students, that they are also a part of the intelligentsia, acting as historians.

Anyone else have opinions on this?

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Well bards in other series have also been capable of weaving magic with said songs. If nothing else a bard would be extremely useful for scouting enemy ranks under the guise of.... a bard i guess.

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Brothers and Sisters of the Stormcloaks

I'm sorry to crash your thread again.

However, some of your fellow forumites are planning a little shindig for the anniversary of Skyrims release. We would appreciate it if the Stormcloaks would join us in our fun. We want to include you so can you let us have a challenge and location to raid by Monday. Our thread can be found here.

http://forums.uesp.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=33246

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P.S. This offer is being made to the other clubs so don't be left out.


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