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Different game, different bonuses.

If these skill boosts are accurate, I must admit I'm a bit disappointed, particularly with the Dunmer stats.

It looks like the Khajiit get a good head start as a pure assassin type player, and Impirials look alot better for combat.

However, if there are indeed no attribute differences in the races, I would think these skill bonuses would be much less important. A +10 archery stat is nice for bosmer, but its the added agility boost that really makes being bosmer the hands down best choice for a markmen in oblivion.

I'm very foggy on how Skyrim's system works though, so I may be missing something

Yeah this would be a shame if it's true. I mean, take Nords. They're supposed to be okay at restoration magic, good with both armor types, block, etc. But if you had given the Nord skills (in skyrim) to the Redguards, maybe swapping one handed to +10 instead of two handed, I wouldn't have been surprised.

If it's about balance, surely they could do it without hurting their racial identities.

And if Nords do have speech, then the reason being it's their homeland doesn't make sense imo. In Morrowind, the Dunmer had no speech bonus, but due to the large number of Dunmer in the game, they often had it easier in speechcraft because the starting disposition of most other Dunmer was higher. Same should be done with the Nords.

And seriously, if Imperials don't have a speech bonus, wtf.

Imperials without Speech and Redguards with boosts in Destruction and Alteration..

Not even a million chimpanzees with typewriters could describe the confusion I'm feeling right now.

The thing that has always bothered me with Morrowind and Oblivion is that - despite them being sandbox games, where you can go where you want, do what you want, and be any kind of character type you want - you were always railroaded when it came to race. If you didn't want to hamstring your character from the get-go, you were forced to play certain races for certain character types, and frankly I find being coerced into "racial stereotypes" rather aggravating.

i do not find this... I've played orcs as mages just fine

It definitely made it harder to play certain characters (especially at low levels), but once you start to flesh out your characters stats it became a non issue.

Travyond states that he had to leave Hammerfell in order to pursue his career and that he is still prejudiced against some schools of magic. Not probable.

I also notice that the only race with a magicka bonus are altmer

bretons get good mage skill stats, but with no extra magicka from the start it seems that there will be more races that could make for a better pure mage character, especially dunmer, and oddly enough, redgaurds

Argonians seem to be getting a bad hand as far as offensive combat skills

I've always done a Bosmer stealth assassin, but those Khajiit's are looking pretty tempting. I heard someone in another thread mention seeing a white one. If I can make a black one, I'm sold

I like the power they gave the Khajiit. It makes using handtohand with them much more appealing.

If you look on the older sources redguards clearly had some good connection to magic once, before the killed off their homeland. But why would it resurface now? (the magic skills not their homeland). I even can adapt to the dunmer changes as they maybe needed the more sneak skills during the red year and following conflicts and the change of imperals may be attributed to the now other "imperial" politics.

What people also should consider is that not all race skill bonuses are something that comes from birth, it also has to do with your culutre and what you are trained/learned in your youth.

But what I mostly like is that almost all activate race spells are unique and seem usefull for the full game, only maybe the dunmer spell which does a fix amount of damage instead of some damage related to your level.

Maybe they got some more information how and why it sank/was destroyed and it wasn't their fault as it seems atleast now.

The other question is how good the altmer magicka bonus is as the bretons lost their bonus and also 25% resistance in turn for a absorb spell, and the altmer lost their weakness, altmer somehow seems superior than breton.

Khajiit seems to be the best stealth-aligned character type with Bosmer. Dunmer skill boosts are confusing, and Altmer losing their weaknesses makes for terrifying mages (which i totally like, but perhaps not lore-wise).

I think I've decided to make my stealth character a Khajiit

With the 15 points of claw damage along with a +5 in one handed, it seems like they will be able to hold their own in close combat early in the game, while being able to focus on leveling the archery skill. Unfortunately no bonus for light armor, but for a player who will l likely deal most of the damage from afar and getting sneak attack bonus, shouln't be that big a deal

I have to believe these stats are incomplete and the Altmer have magick weakness. If not, they really are scary

It appears that Redgaurds are the new Dunmer

cant wait!

I got the idea that every time you level you can chose a +10 bonus to stam/heath/mag.
The +50 magic bonus the Altmer get would be worth 5 levelup stat boosts then. Sounds pretty good to me.