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Anonymous98223 wrote:I was under the impression that Daedra and Ehlnofey where different things. I pretty sure that the Ehlnofey are the spirits or something that became part of Nirn, creating its physics and becoming its inhabitants where as Daedra didn't want anything to do with it.
Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:09 am
Pilaf The Defiler wrote:edit: Hold on. Forgot Orcs and need to clean it up.
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Honest to god am I the only one here that reads the ingame books?
The Ehlnofey were clearly physical entities . . . they had a culture, and conflicts . . . even language
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Pilaf The Defiler wrote:Spoiler:
A simplified list based on my research.
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please tell me what is wrong with it
Daedra do not reproduce an therefore can not evolve or transform into new creatures. It's also deeply flawed to put them on a chart as descending from the Ehlnofey.
A simplified list based on my research.
I cant take your version as canon dude, it seems to be based on mostly dismissed pieces of lore . . .
Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:13 am
Pilaf The Defiler wrote:Spoiler:
A simplified list based on my research.
edit: To clarify, I'm trying to illustrate Bretons are Aldmer + Nedes but it's confusing on this chart. It looks like I'm saying Aldmer became Bretons became Nedes, but that's not the way it's intended.
Chaos the N'wah wrote:The term 'Star Orphans' comes up in some of MK's works and refers to them as "a pantheon of forgotten deities" of which it is implied Anu was a part of.
But like much of MK's works, it's questionable about both their implications and whether Bethesda considers them as canon.
Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:53 pm
Ralok wrote:why would you place the "star orphans" as the progenitor of Anu?
it seems implied that they are et'Ada that fled, such as Magnus . . . (hence Magne Ge)
and like me you didnt include the tamriellec aboriginals
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Ralok wrote:I am working under the assumption that Daedra are created from mortals . . . As Daedric princes cannot actually create life, only alter it . . . thus their thralls must be of mortal origin.
I include daedra on the chart simply because they had to have been derived from something, this is less an evolutionary chart . . . and more . . . a chart showing where verything came from
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Ralok wrote:I am working under the assumption that Daedra are created from mortals . . . As Daedric princes cannot actually create life, only alter it . . . thus their thralls must be of mortal origin.
Ralok wrote:I consider the Falmer and the Dwemer to be descendants of the Ayleids . . . for two reasons, geograppy, and language.
Meric folks would have settled in Cyrodiil first, and spread outward from there . . . skyrim, and the dwemer lands are outward from cyrodiil
as well both the falmer and the dwemer written languages are highly similar to the Ayleid written language . . .
of course this written language probably goes way back to the Ehlnofey, seeing as the Ayleids pained themselves to preserve the Ehlnofey languages . . .
Dunmerdude wrote:Pilaf, why do you have Khajiit and Bosmer descended from "forest people" ?
The Bosmer are an Evolution of the Aldmer, yes. But the Khajiit are beast folk that existed in Tamrial since before Topal the pilot.
Ralok, your chart is totally wrong, physical similarities do not mean direct descendence.
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