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 Post subject: Re: New rules regarding the General Banter subforum
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:23 am 
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I like how everyone is reading the title of the thread.

In short, we don't like arguments or personal attacks. If we see those going on anywhere we will take action.

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 Post subject: Re: New rules regarding the General Banter subforum
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I have a couple problems, and maybe its just me, but here goes.

First, I keep seeing people talk about a "select few" and the minority. If these people are so obviously repeat offenders, were they given proper warnings by the mods? Temp-banned? If not, then that's a problem. And I'm not just blaming the mods there. If any user sees a problem post, first PM that person and politely explain your problem with it. If that doesn't work, take it to a mod. This stops people from ganging up on users in a thread, and can bring it to the mods attention, because guess what, they don't see everything. This also let's the person know they are causing problems, because they may not be aware. Especially now with this talk of the minority, maybe they still don't know who they are. I know I've PM'd userrs before if I have a problem with a post, and it can be a great and easy solution to a problems, with no drama. I don't like when people won't just say what they want to to someone, especially if they keep causing problems and everyone is apparently in agreement on it. You got a problem with a user? Either tell them, or keep it quiet. None of this, "Well, some people do ABC and I don't wanna say any names but they know who they are." No, maybe they don't and maybe that's why we have some problems.

Second, we're not going to have proper debate threads here. As has been pointed out many times, this is a game forum, and if you want to debate or argue, look elsewhere. Setting up a thread specifically for a topic shouldn't happen here. However, we do have the general section, and what do you talk about in general? Well general stuff. "Hey did you hear about this XYZ topic?" If the topic is hot enough, a thread gets made. Good enough. Doesn't clog up the General Discussion thread and now it can gain more focus. The problem here is that once you focus in on a specific subject, you tend to start voicing more opinions on it, and that's where arguments happen. I do think we should be able to discuss some of these matters, the Chik-Fil-A being a good example I think, but at the same time we've seen that it doesn't work. Talking about a recent event, whether its political, religious, economical, whatever should be permitted, but I think possibly in just a hey passing way. Since we can't seem to do that properly as a forum (and that's not a bad thing, again its a game forum), then I suppose it makes sense to do away with the topics.

Ideally, I think that we should be able to discuss the majority of topics, as long as it can be done in an appropriate manner. Keep it "family friendly" and if arguments start flying, keep it civil. People are always gonna disagree and cutting out major discussions simply for that fact is silly. I think that in these threads, more moderation should be present (again, I'm not referring solely to the mods), and I think that would help keep control. However, at the end of the day, the Mods have agreed to keep an eye on a forum, not deal with drama in debates. The less they need to do, the better, and these topics have caused nothing but problems. If they decide that they don't want to deal with these topics, that's fine. One more time, this is a video game forum, and you can find another forum elsewhere to discuss these things. If there was a ban on something much more game specific, then I can see reason to get upset. But not being able to discuss for the 400th time why gays should/shouldn't be allowed to eat chicken is nothing to cry home about.

Ultimately, I think I like the idea of no General Forum. When I joined, I spent 100% of my time in Morrowind and Oblivion. I made friends talking about the games, which I think should be how it is. I know the General Forum now encompasses much more, but it ultimately comes down to general banter (clever name there), and we now even have a chat room for that. I bring this up because I saw mention a few times in this thread that the other subforums need more attention. I don't know about that, but if you wanna talk to a user about your day, send them a PM. If you wanna talk to a few of them, get on the chat. Hell, if you are actually friends with somebody on here, chances are you'll talk to them somewhere other than on the forum. And if you wanna discuss these things, you can do it there.

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Read my post. I didn't write it all for it to be ignored. I know this got a bit ranty, and I may have gone off on a few tangents, but I wanted to say it.

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 Post subject: Re: New rules regarding the General Banter subforum
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Thanks for taking the time to post that. I agree 100%.

Double-post, I know..but had to share this:


Puts things nicely, even though I've been guilty of the latter portions a couple times:

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 Post subject: Re: New rules regarding the General Banter subforum
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Double-post, I know..but had to share this:


Puts things nicely, even though I've been guilty of this a couple times:

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That. . . is basically every internet "debate" I have ever witnessed.

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 Post subject: Re: New rules regarding the General Banter subforum
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Mutiny.

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 Post subject: Re: New rules regarding the General Banter subforum
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I say we should bring back the political and religious threads but you can only use those phrases as insults.

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 Post subject: Re: New rules regarding the General Banter subforum
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House of the Wolf wrote:
Double-post, I know..but had to share this:
Puts things nicely, even though I've been guilty of this a couple times:

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That. . . Is basically the best internet "debate" I have ever witnessed.

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 Post subject: Re: New rules regarding the General Banter subforum
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Ooooh, Christ. Back to this bullcrap again?

Seriously guys? No, seriously? Banning so-called "controversial" discussions was one of the main reasons why members were jumping ship back in the day. And now, just when things are going good, you're going turn back the hands of progress?

Take a look at this thread. Most, if not all, of the users commenting are against this "change in policy". Assuming for a minute that UESP is a community, one created by the users, and not simply a rubber daycare room, I'd say the mods should take the hint and ease up a little. Or rather, stay eased up, and not needlessly revoke our freedom of expression. If there are one or two members who can't handle political or religious discussions, then it's on them to not click on topics like that. If there are one or two members who are going out of their way to be flagrantly disrespectful, then it's on you mods to deal with them, individually, on a case by case basis (sucks when your power leads to responsibility, huh?). Deleting everything just because you're worried that there may or may not be problems that you will then feel obliged to deal with? Come on, guys. You're smarter than this.

Now, I'd actually take things one step further: I'm opposed to moderating any discussions for any reason, or at least any content-related reason. While I'm willing to concede the utility of moderators as a block against spam and automated advertising, I don't accept the idea that they have any valid, ethically or practically justifiable reason for meddling in any other affairs. I'd be perfectly happy with a completely unmoderated forum, one in which users are free to say what they want, about any topic they please. This was, after all, the whole POINT of the Internet. In fact, I'd even go so far as to say that UESP should have- no, NEEDS to have- a subforum explicitly dedicated to free expression, one in which individual users have to take responsibility for themselves, and in which individual users cannot use bureaucratic intimidation in order to control the thoughts, behaviors, and stated opinions of others. Basically, a "Pit" forum, in which mods may only be called in to remove content that is blatantly illegal, namely CP... and that's about it.

But that's just me. I'm perfectly aware that I'm probably in the minority on that. However, I am not in the minority when it comes to calling for the moderating staff to show a basic level of respect and maturity in regards to what the community can and can't voluntarily participate in... a level that already existed up until a few days ago, a level that we- the "community" that constitutes UESP- are clearly comfortable with, a level that has been, is, and will continue to work, even if it requires one or two mods to take an extra five minutes out of their month to do their jobs.

For Sithis' sake, man, don't make us create another Cactopia.

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 Post subject: Re: New rules regarding the General Banter subforum
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...Guys, come on.
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I do somewhat agree with Doros though. >_>

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 Post subject: Re: New rules regarding the General Banter subforum
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Ed somewhat agrees with Doros. Can't deny a textwall.

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 Post subject: Re: New rules regarding the General Banter subforum
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I don't know, Doros sort of has a point...

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 Post subject: Re: New rules regarding the General Banter subforum
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Yeah, in all seriousness, I do somewhat agree with him.

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 Post subject: Re: New rules regarding the General Banter subforum
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I think if the moderators can successfully moderate political and religious-based debates like we were having, I think it would work. However, in the past few months something has definitely been wrong. It was impossible to have ANY debate without someone beginning to sling mud. I really wanted a lot of topics like that to be, interesting discussions, that make you think, but no, all we got were people calling other people ignorant, stupid, selfish, immature, blah blah blah. If we bring back debate threads, they need to be done right.

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 Post subject: Re: New rules regarding the General Banter subforum
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Perhaps just having a usergroup for people who want to debate and take part in such discussions?

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 Post subject: Re: New rules regarding the General Banter subforum
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A few words from me, as this was my decision and I basically told the moderator team that if they didn't do it, I would. Least you forget I am also the admin for this forum, for all intents and purposes, and it is my duty to try to lead this site in a direction that jives with its members, its audience, and most of all its community. The forums are but a small part of the community that makes up the UESP site, and we must make sure it is a welcoming and warm place to be, which, historically, it has been. In fact, the one often repeated line about the forums is that it is so unlike other places due to the friendly and warm atmosphere maintained by the members here. For that – kudos!

Now, granted, moderating is not an exact science, and I myself have wavered in my efforts and position to keep the forums running smoothly and without issues, as I am likely to do again. Of course, I think anyone who knows me knows I aspire to build the forums into the greatest they can be, and I cannot do it without your feedback.

I also cannot do it when I am getting buried in complaints about your behavior. Contrary to the popular belief, being a member of the site staff does not mean we get to sit back and lord over everyone else. A good staff member is active behind the scenes and is trying to not only maintain law and order but to endorse, create, and embrace ways to build the site for everyone. It is rather difficult to do this when I am reduced to babysitter because a lot of people on the internet do not know the difference between a debate and an argument, or because they are busy making issues out of things that are misconstrued nonissues. When subjects poised to expand your mind, introduce you to contrary and different ways of thinking, and challenge you to think outside of your own comfort zone and see a different worldview become nothing more than a thin veil for you to attack others, it becomes downright unacceptable.

When these topics were directly introduced, as a direct result of staff discussions with the group of UESPF members known as The Dissidents – the same movement that spawned ex-moderator Cactus’ Cactopia forums - it was intended that they would be first approved by our so-appointed “debate moderators,” as noted here. This was not properly followed through both by members and the staff, and for the latter we alone are accountable. It was also intended to be on a trial basis, with one or two threads at a time. While UESP is a positively delightful and polite forum, it is easy to forget your manners and maturity when you feel you are being attacked, and sadly that was happening much too often with these threads.

You can blame we moderators because we are responsible, particularly those of us who are not as active as we should be. However, on UESPF, we also believe and frequently promote the idea of “self-moderation.” If you are not mature enough to step back and say, “Am I really having a discussion here, or am I stepping over the line?”, and then to reply with silly replies such as "Lulz, guess someone's feelings got hurt!", then you are not mature enough to partake in these conversations and are not demonstrating taking these topics seriously in the first place, or at least that is the impression I am given. People who were curious about that took the time to PM me and ask their opinion, and I have always given it to them. But on more than one occasion I have even participated in a thread just to calmly state my opinion, why I believe it, and even ask other people about how and why they believe what they believe, in order to gain more insight. That is a discussion. And, sadly, even when I have said that I think some of you are being rude and this is not how discussions are carried out, you chose to ignore my tone and continue on as if you had either not read or simply ignored what I wrote. I am not sure what message you wanted me to get from that other than the one that you do not listen to moderators anyhow.

That being said, I have not ruled out the possibility of making a strictly moderated and limited debate subforum where we might be able to properly discuss these things, but quite frankly it is very low on my to-do list - do you want a better staff in which to moderate these forums, or a subforum let loose first, for instance? - and it is something I would like to debate together, as a site, before it is implemented. You are more than welcome, at any point in time, to demonstrate to me that as a community at large we are mature enough to have these conversations in the first place, but so far you have a failing grade…but you are so close to passing.

Furthermore, I would like to remind you all that you are more than welcome to go elsewhere for your daily dose of political, religious, nonsensical, and otherwise insane debates, such as the often referenced Cactopia. I will even give you the invite code to the site. Remember that your registration here is not a binding contract to force your attendance if you desire to go elsewhere. Our only request is that, in your time here, you have fun, be respectful, and follow the rules. However, UESP is not, and will never be, any other internet site. It is UESP. We are a site intended for two audiences: people who play and enjoy The Elder Scrolls games, and the niche of people, like myself, for whom games like Morrowind and Oblivion never get old. Everything else that we partake in, particularly here in the General Discussion subforums, is a gift to help strengthen the camaraderie between posters outside of the game subforums.

The downside to camaraderie is that sometimes we get so comfortable with each other that we forget how easily we can wound people or be overprotective of our own views and emotions. We all make mistakes. What we ought to do is step back, look at why people feel this isn’t working, and combine that with the ideas of people who think it does work to find the happiest medium without losing sight both of UESP’s goal as a site and the forums as a community. We should all enjoy the wonderful things that happen when people from all over the world come together in a place like this, because predominantly wonderful things do happen.

I apologize for the textwall, but I felt the need to explain myself adequately and wished to do so in a timely manner. Yes, I apologize for going on break and not being here to properly discuss things with you, but sometimes real life comes first, and I would hope you all understand this. I will be back, full time and well rested with many good ideas, shortly.

Additionally…come talk to us. We accept your advice and ideas, your complaints and your hatred, at any time – not just when the going gets tough.

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 Post subject: Re: New rules regarding the General Banter subforum
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Thank you too, Avron. Text walls aren't easy for anyone, least of all the author... Though they are appreciated. ;)


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Avron the S'wit wrote:
I have not ruled out the possibility of making a strictly moderated and limited debate subforum where we might be able to properly discuss these things.... You are more than welcome, at any point in time, to demonstrate to me that as a community at large we are mature enough to have these conversations in the first place, but so far you have a failing grade…but you are so close to passing.

A tantalizing carrot to dangle. But, realistically speaking, how large of a subset of the forum population would be interested in participating? Of that subset (and this is the important part that a poll would shed no light on), how many could demonstrate the discipline, skill, diligence, etc. to warrant their participation? Would a "pilot program" be appropriate? Not a haphazard and surreptitious "we'ze watchin' General Banter to see how those kids are getting along," but a formal trial where all the rules would be in place for evaluation, a controlled experiment, if you will.

As you recall, members batted the creation of a subforum around months ago in the "forum issues" subforum, where I think the consensus was that such a place would foster bad vibes and an adversarial spirit, or "raise the overall temperature of the the site," as I put it at the time. Theoretically, with a solid set of public rules and expectations (which could be hammered out without much fuss by our august mod panel, with optional member input), and the right people enforcing them, these debates/discussions (in which opponents argue positions, if we can get clear of the soft language for a moment) could be an asset and point of pride for the community, instead of a detriment and shame as they so often are now. They might even draw some of the lights from other sections of the forums into General, an enriching cross-pollination. And, as was mentioned before, done correctly it could serve as a place of education where younger or curious members can learn better ways to structure and argue their points.

P.S. the first half of this post was supposed to be a biting, critical satire of some of the more absurd reasoning given for the changes, but I shelved it in light of Queen A's thoughtful post. It was still awesome, though. And biting. Of that you can be sure.

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I'm going to pass over the rest of that text-wall with the comment that it was eloquent and fair. I might also add a bit of common wisdom: in cases such as these-- when decisions affect a somewhat major part of any complex or social structure-- patience must always be exercised. As Dark Spark once said, "The only immediate internal threat to any government is instability." That's true for any government which exists. So, matters such as these might take some time to resolve, but it is with the intent that the correct solution be applied.


Now for a bit of nit-picking:

Avron the S'wit wrote:
Furthermore, I would like to remind you all that you are more than welcome to go elsewhere for your daily dose of political, religious, nonsensical, and otherwise insane debates, such as the often referenced Cactopia. I will even give you the invite code to the site. Remember that your registration here is not a binding contract to force your attendance if you desire to go elsewhere.


You certainly can offer the invite code, but all who ask should be aware that invitations are discussed internally. If Cactus has not received word from a member that a specific person was invited, he deletes the account. Contrary to seemingly popular myth, this is not to facilitate a demagogue. It is, instead, a rather more exclusive means of heightening the level of maturity and personal responsibility in the forum by creating a very strong community-- even in the presence of staunchly opposed ideologies. So far, it's been a smashing success.

Now, I think it's time to expire the Cactopia string. It was brought out as the closest example of UESPers with the maturity and responsibility required in potentially heated debates, but it's far over-stayed its welcome.

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I loved that textwall, Avron.

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Yay for text walls. I quite like the idea of an unregulated area which is only available to members by application.

Can't help thinking though that if you come on to the internet and get offended by what people post and can't deal with it you should either a) tell the person that they have offended you (never seen done) if that doesn't work report them or b) get off the internet.

Maybe the General section should be locked and archived including RPs for a short period and then restarted a fresh as a blank slate.


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Are you all seriously debating debate?

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Dark Lord Cam wrote:
Are you all seriously debating debate?

DO I have to stop my "vacation" early?

I wondering why it was so nice here. :P

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 Post subject: Re: New rules regarding the General Banter subforum
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Stormborn wrote:
Yay for text walls. I quite like the idea of an unregulated area which is only available to members by application.

Can't help thinking though that if you come on to the internet and get offended by what people post and can't deal with it you should either a) tell the person that they have offended you (never seen done) if that doesn't work report them or b) get off the internet.

Maybe the General section should be locked and archived including RPs for a short period and then restarted a fresh as a blank slate.

I do too, I'm hoping to check it out for myself soon.

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