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 Post subject: Re: The Writer's Guild
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I had the same problem. You just... evolve. Just pretend you are the character. What would you say? What would you do?

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I had the same problem. You just... evolve. Just pretend you are the character. What would you say? What would you do?


No, no, no. Honestly, you don't want to do that. I have been writing my sci fi project in first person, and I've tried writing scenes from different character perspectives. If you try and imagine you are the character you don't wind up writing the character, you wind up writing yourself. Really, what I'd suggest is to define the character in your head and then it's not a matter of what you would say or do, but a matter of what would they say or do.

I've been told that in my writing, I'm able to project a character in the correct sense of who they are rather than writing it as if it was me, if you know what I'm saying. And that is how I did it. I never once tried to put myself in the stead of the character, I may have written it in first person but it's more like I'm on the outside looking into their mind and pulling the strings. It seems to work.


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 Post subject: Re: The Writer's Guild
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What am I saying? I mean use that as a baseline. Good books have been destroyed due to the writer making the conversations... unreal. If you are in a castle that is besieged, then you're not going to be joking around while there are orcs breathing down your neck. Try and get the chracter to behave like you would, before fleshing him into his own... "body".

Just checked up on my story. It's over 115 pages of A5 and I'm using Vedanta font size 9. It should be about 120 pages, at least, when I'm finished.

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Gah just popping in to say I am a terrible person who procastinates a lot and needs to start writing again soon. Maybe a short story or two will get me back in the groove.

POMC, are you writing by hand or by computermabob? If it's by computermabob, you should be able to find out how many words it is. If you can, I'll be able to tell you if you have enough words for a publisher.

Also, all you people out there writing trilogies and stuff, (Is trilogies even the correct plural? It doesn't look right.) wow. I could never do that. If I stay in one canon too long, I just burn out and never want to write again.

Now I think I'm gonna have to turn off the Internet or I'll never get any work done.

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Computer. I used to write by hand, however, one arm has more muscles than the other because of it. :(

For me a trilogy is easy to do. The reason for it is because I try an add a Tolkienesque depth of lore to my books. When I'm bored, I just get out some paper and a pencil and begin to draw elves, goblins, orks, humans, swords, axes, dwarves, giant-men and many different species of Trolls.

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i do the same POMC.. mostly just my characters. Hey can i put up one of my stories up?.. jsut wanted to see what everyone thinks of it?
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Hi I'm Ashi and this is my story. It was a normal day for our village of Blood. I did forget to tell you I'm a vampyre. Not just any one either, I'm the direct descendant from the first vampyre, and no it's not count Dracula (he's a vampire not a vampyre.) I forgot the difference between us. Every Vamp has a different set of abilities and a rare few have a backfire, right back to the story. I thundered to the meeting going "Damn. I'm late. Gotta hurry!" just as I opened the door the meeting started. "What is it this time Ashi?" My mother said as cold as ice. "Well... do you really want to know?" I replied back just as icy. She sighed "No. Sit down" I sat down in my nice oak chair beside Vernai. After the meeting finished me and Vernai got ready for our hunting group "You do know that she is really ticked off at you, do you Ashi?" she said with her voice just laced with concern.
"Yes. I do and that's why I'm in this group, to get away from my mother."
"Really? I thought it was because you wanted to spend it with me." She replied back with an edge to her voice.
"That too Ver." I said scared.
When we were suited up in our clothes we met up with the rest of the group, Thor, Calme, Kraken, Petal and Geine. Thor has the power to destroy anything with his fists. Calme has the power to command anything that looks in her eyes. Kraken has the power to make ice or water even out of herself. Petal has the power to command the forest and ground. And Geine has the power to sprout bones from himself and use it to fight. Along with my power to use mist and illusions, but my illusions backfire, and Vernais' power to modify any part of her body to anything even to steel, we could capture anything.
We set out and managed to capture an idiot human and a lot of deer. When we came back to the village it was eerily quiet. Vernai and I looked for a sign of life in the upper district. There we saw some bodies caked in blood, Vernai and I was shocked to see that the bodies were Chila and Bine the two twins who were only five years old. But what was more chilling was the mark that was on both of them. It was a Black Flower.
"The Black Rose..." Vernai said shivering "the most elite of all the Hunters"
"But I thought they were a myth" I replied.
"Seems not. I think we should return to the rest."
We returned to the rest and told them what we found.
"I think we should run." Petal said.
"I second that nomination" Geine said
"Heh. You go off and run then. I'll stay here and fight them." Thor said
"Idiot! If you fight them you'll die!" Vernai said harshly. "Do you really want to die and be a trophy to them?"
Just then a twig snapped and Kraken and Calme came back
"The Hunters are here!" they said together. Then a roar came from the north of the village.
"Oh my... l say we run" said Vernai and we did. The Hunter, which was a humanoid with blue skin and yellow eyes, followed us with the same speed and agility I've read about. It wasn't long before it caught up to use but as it reached for us, Petal slammed her fist and a jut of earth came up and blocked us off from it. But then Calme tripped and we all heard an all mighty crack as her bone broke. "Crap. Geine! Can you modify my bone to heal?" she said.
Geine nodded "Yes but it'll be about three minutes.
"You got two" Thor said. As Geine set to his work we all guarded him. When a shadow fell across us, everyone looked up and saw the hunter coming down like a bullet. Calme slipped off her eye mask and looked at the hunter but instead of it stopping in its tracks, it lifted up its hands and, in one quick swipe, was holding Calme's eyes. She screamed from the agony that it must have caused her but just then the hunter killed her. Geine screamed out of rage and pulled out his spinal column and started to swipe it at the hunter, but Thor and Kraken pulled him from it
"NO!! That piece of crap has to die!" Geine said in rage. Vernai punched him.
"Do you want Calme to die in vain? No? Then we have to run and hide from this monster then." Vernai said. Wow she can talk her way out of a caging. When we were out of sight from the Hunter another showed up, but this one was red with gold eyes. Thor got into his boxer stance. "Thor, don't fight it!" said Geine when Thor threw a punch at it and when it connected the Hunter flew and it dissolved. But just then it appeared behind Thor and ripped his arms off. Thor screamed and it echoed through-out the entire forest. Petal and Geine attacked the Hunter and it shrugged off their attacks. Vernai, Kraken and I ran for our life. After a minute we heard Geine and Petal scream. Kraken was out of breath. "When...Are...We out of this nightmare?" she asked. She never got an answer. Just then the two Hunters appeared. They both went after Kraken. Vernai and I helped to attack them with all our might but they swiped at us, we were cast aside like dolls. Kraken fought vainly and died killing herself. Then the Hunters turned on me. Vernai stepped between the two of them. "Vernai you traitor..." I said finally knowing how they found our village.
"Sorry Ashi but they're my pets." She said.
"Well if you want me to scream. I won't. Won't won't won't!" I yelled that challenge at her. The Hunters advanced and then....Screams in the dark.

there you goes..

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 Post subject: Re: The Writer's Guild
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Go Go Gadget Critique!

First of all, I think that including some commas would really help the pacing of the story. I can only see a few in the story, and it just makes it seem too fast-paced, even for the bits where it should be.

For instance, this:

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Hi I'm Ashi and this is my story.


Could become this:

Amazing McBrilliant wrote:
Hi, I'm Ashi, and this is my story.


Then again, I love my commas, so I wouldn't use them as much as I suggest. I would just sprinkle a few more to slow the story down.

Another thing is that you seem to be telling the reader what's happening or what people can do. While this is good in some situations, you may also want to try showing the reader through the story, rather then pausing it to tell them. For instance, in the paragraph when you detail everyone's powers and tell the reader tbhey used them to capture some deer and a human, you could show them capturing the deer and the human by using the abilities. This would also have the advantage of lengthening the story, which most of the time is a good thing.

Don't let this get you down, though, because I really enjoyed the concept. If anymore of this was wrote, I would certainly read it, and I am curious about what happened to the character.

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oh thanks
...if you want to read more. i got a devinart page.. Vernai-Chained.. >.>

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The story was the editing stage. :lol:

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Well done POMC ^_^
But now you do have to edit. Unless you can find a publisher. In that case they'll do it for you :P

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No, you fail to understand. The story was the edit. I have written over five stories using that one plot. It's tiring. Which is why I'm even more happier. I'm free... until I have to write the other two books in the trilogy... and about ten short stories because I have so many dates in my story.

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How long is this book?

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It's quite short. 120 A5 pages. I'm still adding bits, though. In a way I probably am editing. I'm asking my mum to read over it.

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Awesome POMC. I congratualte you. May I get a version of that too?

Wish I could get one of mine done. Working on writing out my main novel 9slowly), a faerytale I am working on with Azura and some friends (very near writing it out, still composing last ideas), and then of course my Morrowind fan fic, which is going to be a beast. I am up to 50-ish pages at chapter four, and I have only jus started the Temple quests, (slowly, dear Lord slowly, working my way through the beginning pilgrimage quest, it really moves slowly.)

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Azura told me about the story. It sounds good. :D

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Which one, the faerytale, or my main novel?

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Ah, yes that one. indeed it is pretty cool. It took a back seat for a few months, but I am hard pressing my friend to get with it again, so we may continue it. Just recently (like yesterday) worked out a few bumps of it myself.

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This is going to be about my skyrim character I will continue it when I play Skyrim

Name:Valund the Vicious
Age:21
Race:Nord
Sex:Male
Personality:Calm fairly sociable desensetized to violence
Body:6 foot 195 pounds muscular
Place of Birth:Small village in Skyrim
Marital Status:Single
Family/Friends:Father Hauk The-Hunter (deceased),Uncle Savard The-Fighter (deceased), Ireunhart The-Brave (deceased), Vilem Drethi (deceased), M'Vassa (deceased)

History:Valund grew up in a small village in Skyrim where they lived off the land he lived with father. He was taught how to hunt with a bow and how to skin an animal. He loved his father he was loving and caring. But oneday when Valund was 12 years old he came back from gathering to find his entire village had been massacred. But he did as his father always told him be strong there's no need for tears. So he knew what to do he had an uncle in Cyrodil in the city of Bravil so he took a dagger and a bow and headed to Bravil the quest took him many days but he finally found him living in a shack in Bravil. Uncle Savard was always a scary man from what he can remember he had a scar down his eye so he could only see out of one eye he was a hulking man with blonde hair and blue eyes.

But nonetheless his uncle took him in but this was all new to Valund he has never been to the city and seen this much diversity their where Dark elves, Wood elves, Orcs, Khajit, Argonians it was very new to him and the buildings where so close together and so many of them too.

By the time he was 15 he had made friends with some tough neighborhood kids by the names of M'Vassa,Vilem Drethi and his best friend Ireunhart the Brave. And was becoming a very tough young man because living in the slums wasn't easy for Valund he learned fast how to fend for himself other kids would try to beat him up and bully him when he first moved there but he caught on quick and Uncle Savard wasn't all that bad he taught him a few fight moves himself after all he doesn't have then name fighter for nothing turns out he was once the toughest guy in all of Bravil he was undefeated so he knew a thing or 2 about fighting.

So after awhile Valund did warm up to his uncle and they had an alright relationship. But back to his friends he hung out with a crowd most would call undesirable but to him they where his best friends yeah they where rough and tumble kids but they where his friends. They would get in fights sprawl rooftops and steal things but that was just the way life was in Bravil it wasn't easy. So after while his friends got to know him as a pretty good fighter so they where all thinking hey maybe we should hold fights with other kids and bet on Valund well they started to do this and sure enough Valund was great he won against everyone just like his uncle and thats how he earned the name Vicious because when he would beat them he would beat them half to death he just had sometype of rage inside of him that once it went off you couldn't stop it.

Valund is now 18.This is his last fight before he gets to face the champion Agrum gro-Agrob a hulking orc who has never been defeated. But thats for later lets focuse on the fight at hand Valund is an an alley with people all standing around him and he's staring down this very large Nord by the name of Hisin The-Gruesome but he's waring Hisin down he's starting to get tired he can see so Hisin throws a punch to Valund's face Valund ducks and finishes him with an uppercut. All his friends cheer it also happens to be his 18th birthday so after they go to the tavern and buy drinks while their drinking Agrum and his Clan of orcs happen to walk through the door and Agrum sits right next to Valund and says im gonna crush you when the fight comes then leaves. By this Valund is very angry but his friends tell him to save it for the fight. So finally the day of the fight comes he walks down the stairs to the basement where it's ment to be held. Then walks through the crowd of peopl into the center of the circle and sees Agrum standing there with a grin on this face then Valund puts his hands up then Agrum pauses a second then swings a crushing blow to Valunds eye where it starts to bleed then Valund punches Agrum in the mouth and Agrum starts to bleed but he smiles then starts repeadidly swinging on Valund untill he beats him to the ground then Jumps on top of him and starts to beat him again then pauses for a second and looks at the crowd and as he opens his mouth to say something Valund headbutts him then flips Agrum to the ground and starts to repeatidly beat and headbutt him until he no longer moves then everyone starts to cheer he is the champion of the slums. Him and his friends go out and celebrate. Now that he is the toughest man in the neighborhood he is very well respected.

A few days after Valund becomes champion he is walking around town and an Imperial in fine linen approaches him and says i've heard about you and I would like you to join my guild immediatly Valund knew who he was it was Vinnus Valodius he was the leader of the strongest crime guild in Bravil.So Valund immediatly jumped at the offer and accepted because he always looked up to these guys when he was a child he strived to be like them and now he could. So he was initiated and then started of as a low level member whose job was to just sit around with other guild members and make sure no rival guilds would come on their turf and he was quite good at that the few times they had a problem Valund would beat the rivals senseless now after a year of doing this Valund rose in rank and was now extorting business owners and all three of his friends had now joined and where low level members.

By now he was 21 years of age and was now a higher up in the Guild and now sold skooma to people in the slums so it's like any other day he's standing in the alley selling to customers while M'Vassa watched the left side of the alley Ireunhart watched the right and Vilem watched from the balcony and after the day was over he went to Vinnus and gave him his cut of the gold and was headed for the door when Vinnus stopped him and told him he had a diffrent job the next day he said he needed him to kill someone he said that if he did this he would rise in rank so Valund accepts and tells him about a new upstart Guild of skooma dealers that was trying to move in on their turf he gave him the information on them where they hung out what they looked like.

So the next day he woke up got his crew all together and one extra guy who Vinnus sent to help an Argonian by the name of Scar-Face who was one of Vinnus's best assassins anyway he got together with them and they started to plan they had to take out 6 guys 2 Dark Elf's they where the leaders the Vinlethi twins they where the main targets. The rest where less important but still needed to be murdered so they planned it they knew exactly where they where going to be at a local tavern where Vinnus was paying the owner to look the other way and to make sure nobody else was there but the Vinlethi twins and their guild.Finally the time had come it was midnight Valund got his dagger slid it into his sheath and he and the rest of the guys walked to the tavern where Vilem covered the back door and the rest walked through the front door as they walked in Valund was greeted with a punch to the face by one of the twins then the fight broke out everyone took out there daggers including the rival guild and there was a giant fight and the last thing Valund remembered was him cutting one of the Dark elves from the rival guild and hearing him scream then after that everything went black.

When Valund awoke he was on the floor of the tavern in a puddle of blood when he looked to his right he saw his best friend Ireunhart laying next to him eyes open and a slit through his neck. than as Valund stood up he started to look around and he saw everyone else he had brought with him also dead every one of his friends dead then he felt something warm running down his cheek it was blood was cut but that didn't matter everyone was dead the only one of theirs that was dead was one of the twins how could this be they where all dead and but he knew what he had to do he had to get out of their fast out of Cyrodil so right then and there he decided he had to go back home to Skyrim so he got a few things together and headed for Skyrim.
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 Post subject: Re: The Writer's Guild
PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:58 pm 
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I like it. You should seriously continue it.

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 Post subject: Re: The Writer's Guild
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POMC S117 wrote:
I like it. You should seriously continue it.

Yeah definetly will but not until skyrim comes out

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