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What is this? What is this?! WHAT IS THIS!!! WHAT THE FLIP IS THIS!!?!!

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Have you posted that second video before? I swear I've seen it somewhere.

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No, but it totally sounds like something I would both share and praise, now doesn't it? I just discovered that anime yesterday ^__^ Guess what I found what to watch then

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Yes, it sounds exactly like something you'd share. Which leaves me wondering where in the world I've seen that video before. Who else would show me something like that? I don't even know. This is very strange, I was sure it was you.

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"How to break a Tsundere" does sound pretty Beta-ish to me :dur: As does this (In some contrived manner of sense)

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Bruh, what is with all these Rom-Coms suddenly trying to drag me in on a feeltrip.this season.. Like, seriously, bruh. M8. Pal. So much win here
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I know this is going to be a fairly null question, but what's everybody's opinion of the Netflix Death Note? Horrible? Bleach to the eyes? Or secretly genius?

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I liked it. It's absolutely nothing like the original, story and character wise, it's all super different. And that's not really a bad thing, there are lots of other adaptions which have had little regard for their source material, that didn't make them bad. I kind of prefer it taking things in a different direction and I'm a sucker for people investigating supernatural crimes in mundane fashion. Ryuk now full on encourages Light to murder people instead of sitting back and watching stuff unfold, which is less interesting. But, Ryuk is Willem Dafoe now which is A+. Now I don't want you to think the film is great or anything, it's really not, characters are generally rather flat although the ending is very strong. I liked it in the same way I like not particularly good horror films, so like Final Destination 5. Actually, it's exactly as good as Final Destination 5 and you should fully go in expecting it to be that kind of a film. That is to say, you expect to be terrible but it's actually alright and does some interesting stuff story but not enough to make it really stand out and you're better off watching Hush instead.

Of course, I'm not really that into the original. And I'm also not 15 anymore, I probably wouldn't like the original that much if I did re-watch it. Have you watched Death Note since you were 15? I haven't. I now know what it feels like to like the Star Wars prequels because I don't think anyone is ever going to agree with me on this. The direction is really disappointing though. The director made The Guest which is phenomenal and You're Next and Blair Witch which are both really strong, the camera work, transitions and soundtrack are really subpar here. Also the bad reception might scare people off The Guest knowing it's the same director, like how I need to convince people to watch Event Horizon without bringing up the Resident Evil films (which are, admittedly, a tonne of fun.)

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Them be fighting words, my friend. Well, not to me personally. From what I've seen, I actually like the way they portrayed Ryuk, but really, that's a small thing in the grand scheme of things

But yes, different is an understatement. While it still be better than the first live action film.adaptation? I don't know. But I can say this, they certainly look better and got a bigger budget.
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There are very few movies that actually make me feel legitimately upset, and this is one of them.
Another one up there with the Avatar live action, where I couldn't watch all of it because I was too busy going what have they done to my precious babies? So yeah, I didn't watch much of it. And I really don't plan on watching any more.

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Well if you aren't going to watch the rest of it I can tell you, Light and L don't end up handcuffed and forced to lived together.

It's unfortunate that given how people think of movies and of the director being like the king of a movie, most of the blame is probably going to be laid at the feet of the director. The direction is nothing special here but the problems are mainly due to the writers. Adam Wingard didn't write it. Adam Wingard and Simon Barrett are a fantastic director/writer duo. The Guest, Blair Witch, You're Next. They're great together.

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No! That's another reason not to like it! I loved L and Light's happy fun times while they were living together!

I just blame whoever decided to DESTROY THE BEAUTIFUL STORY THAT WAS THERE AND TURN IT INTO SOMETHING ELSE. I'm especially annoyed with the person who wanted to make it set in America. WHAT KIND OF A NAME IS "LIGHT TURNER"? EW EW EW.

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I'm especially annoyed with the person who wanted to make it set in America. WHAT KIND OF A NAME IS "LIGHT TURNER"? EW EW EW.

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I gotta back Cass on this. Nobody wanted Death Note in Merica.

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@Kerr: I didn't watch Fairly Odd Parents growing up, but I still appreciate that greatly.

@Beta: Of course you've gotta back me. The moment they decided to set it in any country where shinigami aren't part of the culture is the moment it was doomed.

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Oh no, I'm cool with that part. Death god from another culture in foreign lands? Dealing with common misconceptions and constantly being compared to a demon? Ya, I could do it that. Hell, if some original and brand new character who just so happened to be American came across the book, and followed a similar ideology to cleanse the world of evil, I would watch that. That's a clever idea that can be flexible. It's it's own thing, rather than being a thing but trying to be different

Problem here and it's a mistake we keep making, is when you remove or change the setting, culture, and even character details but expect it to be the same? No, it won't. Look at Ghost in the Shell and it's nonsense choices and whitewashing? (The horrible writing and plot are an entirely different issue all together) Or the American attempt on Sailor Moon during the 90s. And heaven forbid if there is a rice ball or chopsticks in an anime dub.

Could you imagine if Ghibli films were localized to meet familiarity of other cultures? Just think how Spirited Away would of been in the West? Sometimes, you need that level of integrity if the story or theme is built off of it..

In this case at least, it's a more minor issue. But it still begs the question, in all honesty, why couldn't Light keep his original name? The actor? Sure, fine, whatever. But why the character? Does it actually hurt anything to leave as is? Especially when your main audience is already fans of anime.

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But if it takes place in another country, how was Light supposed to all oh yes, a shinigami, god of death, who I've been expecting? Unless he was smart and well-cultured, WHICH HE SURE AS HECK DIDN'T SEEM IN THE MOVIE.

I think my problem is that when I see an adaptation of something, I want it to be the same. Not just kind of the same, not just loosely basing it off of an idea, but the same thing. And I know that's probably not always the best way of adapting something, but that's how I like it. I'm totally fine with them making spin-offs or whatever, those are cool. But I don't like them saying that it's Death Note when IT'S NOT DEATH NOTE (to me anyway, I know that some people thought it was good and everything, so to each his own). If they had changed the names of all the characters to things not even resembling the original names, then marketed it as a story that was inspired by Death Note, then I think I would have been happier.

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I mean, from the actual film, Ryuk can easily introduce himself as a death god >_> or, ya know, read the rules/notes of the book. But ya, Light in this adaptation lacks the calm and smart persona we all love. I do like Ryuk taking a more active role, but at least in the film, the best form of his entertainment came from when Light wasn't in control

But in the hypothetical, if you removed Light as a character and used a new one >_> well, same introduction still can apply. Book, in person, or small hints that drive the character to investigate historical references. Either way, ya, I would of been happier with a full spin off than half- ass adaptation. It certainly would of granted the writers more freedom with the idea

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I actually think America is a good idea for a Death Note setting. America has an incarceration rate of 716 per 100,000 as opposed to 51 per 100,000 in Japan and it has like 20% of the world's prison population. Light killed plenty of Americans in the original but being Japanese he was from more distant from their justice system, here it's the place he's actually from and where he's doing the majority of his killings. L is black in the adaption, Light and his cop dad are both white. Black people are disproportionately arrested and more likely to face police violence. There's good fodder there for stories, of who Light goes after and why, of how different people receive it. Of the nature of the American criminal justice system in 2017, big weighty themes to explore.

They don't by the way. Like, the 2017 film doesn't have anything interesting to say about the philosophy of justice, it doesn't have anything to say at all really. But they could have, they could have used the US setting to do something meaningful, like how many samurai films were translated to cowboy films.

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Kerr, you're so smart. But none of that changes the fact that I very much disliked that they set the movie in America.

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Nobody tell Cass about the live action version of FMA then..

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What about the FMA live action? :wat:

I've been hyped about it since the first trailer came out. Ryosuke Yamada is playing Ed. <3

The director has said "the original story consists of 27 volumes, I cut it down into two hours, but we will stay faithful to the manga... Since I’m a big fan of the original myself, I don’t plan to change the setting, the world view, and make a different story, so please don’t worry about that." Do you know something I don't? :wat: Is the director lying? DON'T FAIL ME, FUMIHIKO!

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All I know is, they're against the odds here. Has there ever been a successful live-action adaptation of a manga/anime. Same truth/curse applies to most Japanese content remade for a western audience, but that's a fair criticism on American studios themselves and their short sighted practices or misuse of foreign licenses

Do I want it to succeed? Sure. I wanted the same for Death Note 2017. But I can't help by be skeptical

(Also, how am I not surprised you know so much about the FMA adaptation)

Btw, you wanna know what older animes wouldn't be bad in live action? And could actually work? Part of me wants to say Cowboy Bebop or Trigun, but I really gotta say Big O. Detective batman vibe mixed with giant robot fighting? Shame it won't have as big as a cult following

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YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE MY HOPE AWAY, YOU SKEPTIC.

I knew I'd hate Death Note from the moment I saw the trailer. I have higher hopes for this adaption. And, like I said many months ago,
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I haven't seen Trigun or Big O, so I can't say anything about those, but I'd very much like to see a (properly-done) Cowboy Bebop live action.

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Both are older and around the same era, so I'm not surprised they arent as mentioned as much as. Though, Trigun was popular enough to warrant an animated film, putting it near or on par with Bebop which did the same.

Big O, is a bit smaller, and probably for good reason..not because it's bad.. But it's just nowhere near as good as Bebop, Trigun, or Ghost in the shell, and certainly not as impactful as Evangelion or Akira. It's just a simple truth

But ya, a well done Bebop live action? You don't even need to waste time slowly introducing every character or re-using some plot from the manga/anime. What with it being episodic, it plays to it's benefit. But I gotta ask.. Who would play as Spike? Mmmm

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