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Personally, I've never been a fan of blatant fan service <_< upon either spectrum.. And especially not the harem/reverse harem genre. Honestly, I would be okay with some of it if it actually added to the content, but that's just it, normally it doesn't and can often be a telling sign in the author's lacking confidence in the main material(I.e the stuff you actually came for). Look no further than Fairy Tail for an example

Now.. I wont knock shows that only just focus on that, that strive to be echi or perverse, but that's due in part cause that it's appealing to it's market.. Not shoehorning it in like a cheap add on

Also, on the other hand, not all shows need to be so over the top, these being the ones that know how to use fan service to add to the humor or character(not subtract from them). I mean, they can make it work if that was their intent all along(case in point, the Lupin the 3rd series) [&@%!], sometimes I just want to sit down and watch a comedy anime with dirty grandpa jokes and lots of explosions.. I mean hell, sometimes I just wanna watch me some Desert Punk!

On the other spectrum, sometimes the show absent mindedly contains the fan service >_> never the intent and hardly brought upon the spotlight, and yet with all the care and serenity of the scene or character development.. It just seems ignorable or overlooked, as if proof it was never the intent to sexualize said scene. Ironically, on that polar spectrum I'm completely enamored by the show Spice & Wolf. Seriously, never thought I would enjoy medieval economics and so little that the (possibly best ever) female protagonist forces me to watch this away from family or public eyes.. Just to avoid those awkward questions

Btw, just for the record. But I'm not recommending Spice & Wolf to you.. I'm telling you :wat: There is no choice in the matter, you will watch it <_< Desert Punk however remains a recommendations like the rest(if not admittedly higher due to personal bias)

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Don't you worry, Spice & Wolf is already on my list of shows to watch. Desert Punk, on the other hand...
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First, let me point out the fact that if you don't like crude humor, don't bother watching Suna Bouzu (Desert Punk).
This does not appear to be the anime for me.

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That review couldn't have been any more true.. Same reasoning can apply if you can't stand gore, don't watch Hellsing or Psycho Pass

Still, Desert Punk remains one of my personal favorites, then again, I'm a [&@%!] who likes crude jokes

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Tell him it's okay we all make mistakes when we're young, but he needs to watch FMA:B again and like this time. Now I'm not sure what age he is and isn't shounen but if he's like 13+ Cowboy Bebop might be a good pick. I mean there are parts he won't like but it still has cool people going around space shooting stuff. Kids love that sort of thing,

So I watched Magical Girl Raising Project (or Mahou Shoujo Ikusei Keikaku) and I liked it. It's basically Magical Girls meet Battle Royal. It wasn't fantastic but it was pretty good. I mean I cared about the characters, I had people I didn't want to die and it was sad when they did. Pretty early on it goes from focusing on the main character to being more of an ensemble which is definitely the right choice. Also the girls themselves are pretty diverse in their designs, powers and backstories. So sure you have 14-17 year olds but you also have college student, married people, a couple who are dating, people in their mid 20s and above (so 'proper' adults rather than young adults.) And I'm so down for boy who becomes a magical girl.

Anyway I'll watch Madoka Magica next, continue my Magical Girl season.

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Those little 4-panel stories are honestly my favourite part of the manga.

My cousin just turned 13, and I know that he's still too young to really appreciate Cowboy Bebop. But yes, I will force him to watch it when he's a bit older. And of course I'll keep on recommending FMA:B to him. Just yesterday he texted me to say that he was watching Ouran, though, which was kind of a surprise for me. Maybe he's more into the romance stuff than I thought.

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Cass.... Make him watch Princess Tutu.. Do it :wat: I beg of thee

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Just looked it up. And darn it, there's another one on my list.

Anime really isn't helping me much, in terms of studying for my exams. But there's nothing like a little Sekaiichi Hatsukoi to help relieve stress.

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Yeah, budgeting your free time is hell when in high school and further more into college. But damn.. If it wasn't for that hour long break between two of my major classes.. That time I spent juggling the first season of Psycho Pass and light hearted Trigun, I probably would of lost mu mind >_> And top that off with coming back home from a stressful day af my internship and just relaxing to the calming mood of Mushishi and Kino's Journey..

Honestly, just pace yourself. Even if you spread out some of those most anticipated series over the course of 5 years, that's still 5 years of great anime
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By the way, Cass. Have you taken a chance to look back on that anime reviewer I linked ya some time ago? Arkada? Because I mean, if you want a good grasp on what to watch and where to find them, your certainly missing out in my humble opinion. Not that it makes his reviews or opinions better than any other, oh no, I do implore anybody to go out and be open minded. Even by word of mouth, your own sound judgement is that much more valued. Just.. You cant go wrong with quality and dependability >_> and a dependable source, he is indeed

Hell, when I first was in a rut and finding it hard to find new shows, due in part to my reluctance to explore new genres or series. I just sticked to what I knew, the nostalgia of Trigun or Bebop, the mainstream of Naruto or One Piece. Whatever was airing on TV Saturday night. But damn.. When just looking for references or things of potential interest, his reviews really helped narrow down that unfathomable ocean. Being able to gloss over his videos, never at first watching them.. And then finding that many were on the same streaming service I used. And by those that seemed the most curious or vaguely in my field, I would take a peep into the atual video.. And we all know where that lead. It helped me find Mushishi, Spice & Wolf, Madoka Magicka, and many more. Shows I previously never would of glanced at for a second, and yet some have turned into my absolute favorites.

I'm not asking you to do exactly what I did, hell, you don't even need to watch all of his reviews or first impressions(something I am greatly at fault for doing multiple times :roll: ) Just, please, anybody new or interested, at least watch these two videos of his. If you are sorely disappointed or didn't grasp one helpful recommendation, then I seriously need to reevaluate my perspective on everything.

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It's too bad that I got really into anime the same year marks actually start to matter. Ah well, I'm a natural procrastinator, so I guess if I didn't have anime I'd just find something else to spend study time on. But yes, I plan to pace myself. As much as I gripe about how much anime I've got on my list, I'm happy because it means that I have quality anime to look forward to over the next however many years. And I'd rather take the time to enjoy each anime then try to rush through them all.

I totally forgot that you ever mentioned him, but I just watched his videos now. To be honest, I've always preferred word of mouth (maybe because I'm too lazy to look for good reviewers), but these are really good. And now I have a lot more anime on my list. I also really feel like watching some Cowboy Bebop.

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I've got a tradition of making my laptop wallpaper whatever anime I last finished. Hence the Yuri on Ice.

See that list on the left? Once upon a time, that list had only 5 anime on it. Once upon a time, it was actually structured nicely. I guess that I can't really blame it all on you, but you contributed a whole lot...

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I'll post some thoughts on Pyscho Pass now. Limiting it to Season 1.
Psycho Pass Season 1 Spoilers. So much spoilers. I spoil everything. But only Season 1.:
I love that while the antagonist is a [&@%!], his end goal (abolish Sibyl) is right. In a sense that might be similar to Ghost in the Shell but The Laughing Man and Kuze aren't awful people who nobody could ever like so, yeah... And by stopping him for justifiable reasons (like personal vengeance and to ensure he doesn't keep murdering folks) it means the horrible Panopticon which has more authority over you than even the most totalitarian dictator will continue unopposed. His plan on how to do it is actually really clever too. I think the series makes for an interesting look at how to effect social change, so liberalism vs radicalism. Liberals think you should work within the existing system to effect change, radicals think the existing system itself is the problem and should be abolished. And does it in a way that suggests neither side is entirely without merit (because well, they aren't) allowing the viewer to draw their own conclusions on what is the right thing to do in regards Sibyl.

Now I myself think Akane is wrong not to destroy Sibyl or at the very least, expose it. Hell even if you don't think the sheer concept is a terrifying nightmare as I did from the very first episode, it murdered Kagari. But I understand that people have different views. I think the system is rotten to the core, it can't be reformed. It works off a cold inhumane utilitarianism which is a really bad moral philosophy. But it makes for a really strong ending (for Season 1 at least) with chilling implications for an awful future and this all works really well towards making Kōgami and Makishima serve as foils to one another, both hate Sibyl and after killing Makishima we can infer (and actually see if you care about the sequels) that Kōgami himself goes on to oppose Sibyl. And I love what happens with Ginoza and Masaoka characters.

I think the show in general has some interesting looks at philosophy, sociology and technology. For one thing the show actually knows what Anarchism is as a political ideology instead of using it interchangeably with chaos or disorder. And in general the show raises a lot of questions towards moral philosophy especially as it relates to concepts of justice and authority. Like as I previously mentioned the utilitarianism of Sibyl which is focused on achieving "the maximum happiness for the maximum people" results in it incarcerating/killing the mentally ill, incarcerating people because they may do something bad, killing political dissenters, killing to cover up the truth, assimilating people like Makishima, a repeat of Sakoku except this time not even the Dutch can come visit, etc. And is that a just way to organize society? Would you save one person or six people is a very different question to would you kill one person to save six people or would you kill your child to save six people or even would you kill yourself to save six people? You may have a different answer for all of those questions. But from a very cold utilitarian perspective, the answer will always be save the six.

So yeah, there's a lot of thematic stuff to dig into there. And like Stand Alone Complex, it never becomes so bogged down in that stuff that it can't tell a good story. The animation looks nice and it presents a really interesting sci-fi setting. It's a quality show that I'm sure to watch again. I'm glad Beta recommended it.

Also don't the Dominators look so cool? And the second opening is so good!

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Manga not Anime (but really who cares) I'm planning on reading Hellstar Remina tomorrow, it was made by Junji Ito. It's a single volume so it shouldn't take that long. But if you want Horror, Uzumaki is really good. I hope Junji Ito is working on Death Stranding.

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Kerr, I just gotta disagree with you on one point there..
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[&@%!] the OPs, [&@%!], the EDs are where it really is at. Which is an odd thing in this field, since it's normally the OPs that shine and the EDs get the short end of the stick Tho I say this with the notable exception of Madoka Magica. Hell, even the OP lies about what your getting into..
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But the ED lays it on like the truth. "Oh, you were expecting a happy go fun slice of life, magical girl show? Think again.."
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I haven't finished season 1 yet (stupid school projects, getting in the way of my anime), but will read your thoughts once I have!

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Manga not Anime (but really who cares) I'm planning on reading Hellstar Remina tomorrow, it was made by Junji Ito. It's a single volume so it shouldn't take that long. But if you want Horror, Uzumaki is really good. I hope Junji Ito is working on Death Stranding.

I watched a video about Junji Ito's work once. It looked really intriguing, but I don't do well with horror. Just watching the video about his stuff kept me up that night. Sometimes, having an active imagination really doesn't help in life.

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Kerr.. Kerr! KERR!! You know my personal recommendations to you never fall shorter than splendid, right? And how I know you do enjoy your fill of scifi, with a lovely dose of good story telling, philosophical depth, and willing to explore darker themes?

Tell me.. What are your feelings about the World War eras? With an interesting twist with magic and warfare? And a little girl who gives no [&@%!] about you, the world, or even god?

Then mind if I recommend Youji Senki: Saga of Tanya the Evil? I know I know I know, this is sort of an out of the norm recommendation I would toss to you, especially with a show only three episodes in, or by the brand new production studio NUT. But man... I'm going to take that gamble.. And say you need to watch this [&@%!] with me on crunchyroll. You know I dont normally do this..

I was originally just looking out for it, just as a blind recommendation at first, to see if it would live up to be one of the underdogs of this season.. And oh.. How that future looks likely right about now.. [&@%!] is good

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Right so I watched the first three episodes of Youji Senki: Saga of Tanya the Evil and sorry, I wasn't that into it. It's an interesting premise, I definitely agree there, but that doesn't make the show itself great. Also like I'm fine with having a protagonist who's an awful person, and I'm sure that will develop more as the show goes on and you get to see more of them. But just juxtaposing that calculating mind and aggression with her being a child isn't enough for me. So I might pick it back up again when it's finished but I don't think I'll be following it for the run.

I'll be getting round to Madoka Magica soon enough though.

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Oh like in terms of best OPs and EDs it's probably Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood.

Although I do like the OP and ED of Ergo Proxy. Kind of caught me off guard with Radiohead but Radiohead are great so why would I complain?

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If you didn't think Sibyl was horrible before (which you should) I'm sure you do now.

Hellstar Remina is good. But yeah, if you really don't like horror, especially body horror, probably best to avoid Junji Ito. But if you ever feel like checking something like that out, Uzumaki is great.

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It's alright Kerr :dur: I knew right from the gitgo that it was going to be a bit of a stretch from the glory that is scifi to historical reimagining of the World War eras. Maybe that's my sweet spot, would explain that. Or maybe in terms of new shows this season there isn't much I have to look forward to(except for season 2 of Konosuba. God bless that [&@%!] show) But hey, it was worth the gamble :dur: Also, at least in terms of special effects and animation, this new studio isn't doing so bad. I certainly would welcome a new contender to Madhouse or BONES anyday

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Well broadly speaking, the idea of magic along with World War 1 era technology could apply to Fullmetal Alchemist. I wasn't doomed to dislike it, the premise was interesting. What I watched just wasn't my thing is all. Still, I wouldn't know unless I watched it and I'm always grateful for your recommendations. So don't worry about it, it'll be interesting to see what the studio makes in the future. Hope you keep enjoying it anyway.

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Btw, Cass, have you seen any more episodes of Psycho Pass? Most noticeably EP21? BC I really wanna hear you reaction nearing the finale :P

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The last episode I watched was 19. But I've got my French exam tomorrow, and then exam break. So, anime binge, here I come!

Though now I'm going to be thinking about what could possibly happen in episode 21. Maybe I can slip some Psycho Pass into my schedule tonight...

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Nooooo! Study first, anime second! DX

Plus.. It's so much better to binge thru.. Keeps the mood flowing and suspense high. Trust me. Also, not to discount the other remaining episodes at all.. Cause ya know, EP20 has alot going for it too especially after that hype cliffhanger from EP19([&@%!], I'm not helping am I?)

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You really aren't.

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If you must, at least save EP21 &22 together. They really deserve to be watched without pause, much like EP10 & 11 prior. Plus, it should serve as a delightful treat after your exams <_<

EP20 tho is pretty heavy, especially in regards to plot. Not trying to spoil anything, but it's just something best to watch with a clear mind(and not prior to a big test :P ) Now I would go and compare it to certain scenes in Ghost in the Shell, except the meaning or reference would be lost to you :wat: So just trust me when I say you want to watch it with a steady and solemn mind, like during a break or relaxing session. But you should still totally focus on studying first <_< anime can wait

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