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Roleplaying Board; for better or for worse?
This is what UESP needs! 59%  59%  [ 19 ]
Roleplaying Board and UESP don't belong in the same sentence. 13%  13%  [ 4 ]
I could care less. 28%  28%  [ 9 ]
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-- No power play - obviously
-- No godmoding - ditto
-- Use complete sentences, and make your best effort to use good grammar and spelling - yay for grammar Nazis!
-- If you abandon your character for more than 3 days without prior notice and you're holding up the group, expect your character to be taken over and probably killed - a bit harsh... maybe 1 week, or 5 days?
-- Stick to the setting. Do your best to inform yourself of the lore, at least the basics. - obviously, unless you want to be from a far off land which explains your name or something
-- No Mary Sues. Your character is not royalty. You are not the illegitimate love child of Martin and Queen Morgiah. Your eyes do not flash with different colors when you feel strong emotions. - unless it's the illegitimate lovechild of some royalty that won't affect the game (same as the setting)
-- Use (()) for OOC - ok, but I use parentheses quite a lot, and my character (who would be like me) would probably also use them, so I suggest < and >
-- Style guidelines - yep
-- Breaking the rules - yep, but maybe with a pm

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That's a really nice set a rules Deandra. :D (but so help me if I want my character's eyes to flash a different color when something really emotional hits me, I will. :lol: )

I think the 3 day rule is a bit short... maybe 4-5 days. (A week is too long though, can't keep the campaign held up just for one person for that long)

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So, how would this work exactly? I've never played games like this before, so I only get the basic concept.


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So, how would this work exactly? I've never played games like this before, so I only get the basic concept.

ditto. Strange how both of us were all for this yet we knew nothing about it :lol:

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Strange indeed. I mean, I know the general idea, and it sounds fun. I've wanted to start a RPG around here, but I don't have enough friends that would actually commit. They're all the type that'd play once or twice, then not show up after that. :roll:


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Think of it as collaborative story writing. Your character goes on an adventure with other people, and you try to accomplish, well, whatever it is you set out to accomplish.

Along the way, you get to overcome hardships. If your character has to work hard to overcome them, the story becomes interesting. If your character always manages to avoid every challenge, the story becomes boring.


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It can still be interesting if your character has one hell of a hard time avoiding them... like say the gamemaster throwing an avalanche of boulders down a hill you're walking up. If you can avoid that, congratulations, because it would by no means be easy. Of course, how to do that without godmodding will be up to you. :wink: I would suspect at least one broken bone from an encounter like that. :lol:

Anyway... basically, as Deandra said it's a collaborative story, but in a certain way we'd all be taking turns describing our actions and conversations with other players and with possible NPC's along the way (which would be scripted by the gamemaster just like enemies or the random boulder avalanche :lol: ). So, that rule about trying not to use just a single sentence is essentially a must. And using as proper grammar and spelling as you're capable of will also be EXTREMELY helpful.

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Hmm. This is beginning to look good! Anyways, Deandra, I like the rules laid out.

But one suggestion; Allow the Role-play thread starter to bend the No Mary Sue rule if needed (maybe the plot revolves around the daughter of some fabulously wealthy dude finding friendship with a lowly beggar's son?) or Character Action Delay timer (Perhaps the game-master themself has to go a week or so inbetween posts?)

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Deandra wrote:
Ok, so would this be freeform RP? How do these basic rules sound:
    -- No power play: you control your character, and nobody else's. You cannot kill other characters, or even hurt them, without their permission. You don't decide how other characters react to your actions, either.
    -- No godmoding: make your character vulnerable and balanced. See http://users.chariot.net.au/~marcof/tra ... juries.htm
    -- Use complete sentences, and make your best effort to use good grammar and spelling
    -- If you abandon your character for more than 3 days without prior notice and you're holding up the group, expect your character to be taken over and probably killed
    -- Stick to the setting. Do your best to inform yourself of the lore, at least the basics.
    -- No Mary Sues. Your character is not royalty. You are not the illegitimate love child of Martin and Queen Morgiah. Your eyes do not flash with different colors when you feel strong emotions.
    -- Use (()) for OOC
    -- Style guidelines: Try to make your post longer than just a sentence. Add some detail. Also, it's better to show than to tell when it comes to your characterization--instead of writing "Arlindwe was smart but weak," make her act intelligently in situations, but have her stink at physical combat when it comes up, and let others form their own opinions of her abilities.
    -- Breaking the rules: If you can't respect your fellow RPers, your post will be deleted. This will be enforced a bit more aggressively than on the rest of the board.



We could also make a rule about Relationship(This is also used on Official Forums)
Like.. Relationships are allowed but not hot scenes or anything like that.(You know what i mean)

I love RP but i suck at writing details, but i would still love to have a RP site for UESP :).

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Yeah. Let us not RP "Dude. Get a room!" Unless you intentionally produce the dude-get-a-room effect. :P

Edit: Is it any coincidence that when I made this thread, a couple other polls popped up posing questions similar to this to RP or not to RP one?

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Ok, revised rules:
    -- No power play: you control your character, and nobody else's. You cannot kill other characters, or even hurt them, without their permission. You don't decide how other characters react to your actions, either.
    -- No godmoding: make your character vulnerable and balanced. See http://users.chariot.net.au/~marcof/tra ... juries.htm
    -- Use complete sentences, and make your best effort to use good grammar and spelling
    -- If you abandon your character for more than 5 days without prior notice and you're holding up the group, expect your character to be taken over and probably killed. If you let the group know in advance, there are ways to move your character away from the action and prevent you from holding up everyone.
    -- Stick to the setting. Do your best to inform yourself of the lore, at least the basics.
    -- No Mary Sues. Your character is not royalty. You are not the illegitimate love child of Martin and Queen Morgiah. Your eyes do not flash with different colors when you feel strong emotions. This rule is flexible depending on the setting, but it's preferable to err on the side of humility when creating your character. http://www.springhole.net/quizzes/marysue.htm
    -- Use double parenthesis: (( )) or brackets: < > for OOC
    -- Style guidelines: Try to make your post longer than just a sentence. Add some detail. Also, it's better to show than to tell when it comes to your characterization--instead of writing "Arlindwe was smart but weak," make her act intelligently in situations, but have her stink at physical combat when it comes up, and let others form their own opinions of her abilities.
    --No ERP. This is a family-friendly board, where we only roleplay civil things like chopping off limbs :lol: All X-rated scenes will be deleted and forwarded to your mother. If your character absolutely must get into an intimate relationship that involves more than a single kiss, just fade to black and don't write about it. Seriously.
    -- Breaking the rules: If you can't respect your fellow RPers, your post will be deleted. This will be enforced more aggressively than on the rest of the board. These rules add to the other board rules, not replace, so the usual rules (eg no flaming) still hold. The rules can be bent when it makes sense, though, so don't be afraid to post.



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But, it is okay to have amberish eyes if you're Imperial/Dark Elf(Probably not Dark Elf since they naturally have red eyes but say, if you came from a Dark elven camp where all had Amber eyes?

Or do you have to stick with the normal OB eyes?
'Cause im roleplaying(In Game) Dark Elven Stalker with Amberish eyes(or they was before they got cut out by Bandits, a little Fable'ish, but still :) )

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I would be more worried if your dunmer had blue eyes. :lol:


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Aaah Blue Eyed Dunmer. That'd be quite the sight. XD

But, we might need to bend the No Uber Traits rule. What when the rule of cool vs the rule of science arises? Or very hidden facts that few know of? Which one should we go with in that case? Example below:

WARNING! THE FOLLOWING CONTENT IS EDUCATIONAL!!! IT SHOULD NOT BE VIEWED BY ANYONE, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!! :shock:

There is no such thing as an albino person with blood red eyes, even though rodents do, and media and literature tries to convince you this holds true with humans as well. The closest thing to the red eye phenomenon in humans is a slightly pink tint one would see if light is reflecting from the back of the eye, for the pigmentation made to prevent this is unusually pale, but this is not true for all, due to the fact that there are varying extremes of the presence of albinism. (There is even a variation in which only the visual problems are related.) Their vision is by nature poor because of fovea changes, so only rarely do you find someone with albinism excelling in sight based activities.

The above example demonstrates common and popularly used, but false and possibly degrading depictions of people.

Another example (though probably more recognized version of rule of cool vs rule of science, but less important variation) is the Jurassic Park Dinosaurs vs the real version. As a quick example; a venom spitting dinosaur with a huge frill, named the Dilophosaurus, is a completely bogus depiction of it. For one, the real animal was 20 feet long, and possibly weighing in at 1,000 pounds, and fossil evidence does not suggest a frill, since there are no bones to control the would-be frill.

Or the famous Velociraptor. As the film potrayed it, the animal was 6 feet tall, and more than a match for even an animal heavy as cattle, even if it was not assisted by its pack. This depiction would remind paleontologists is more akin to Deinonochys, whereas the real Velociraptor is only around the size of a sheep, and covered in fur-like feathers.

See what I mean about whether to side with Rule of Science vs Rule of Cool? I could care less if it's something like the Jurassic Park vs Paleontology example, it's the albinism one (and other mispotrayed qualities of people) that I personally show the primary consideration for.

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I don't think it's too much to ask to expect people to use common sense in making their characters. That's all.


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Deandra wrote:
I don't think it's too much to ask to expect people to use common sense in making their characters. That's all.


With my dinosaur example, yeah, who cares? Asides from that, this is fantasy, so screw logic in this case, since nobody's going to get offended by it. It's the qualities that exist on real people that are usually turned into something very false and/or very degrading/offensive that I'm focused on. (It could be that this is more my concern for or over notification of common misconception than anything though.)

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So... are we making this thread then, or has it died out?

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Does it count as dying out if I'm still trying to figure out an orderly way to make it work in my head? (I know it's not my job to, but unless it's done well enough, it can get messy, and I don't like messy with roleplaying stuff. :? )

Anyway, as far as I can tell... "If you build it, they will come." :wink:

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I certainly hope the possibility isn't dieing out, but given the fact replies haven't come for 8 days, it could be.

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I volunteer Oathbreaker to start us off!

Make a setting, a goal, introduce some characters, whatever :D

If the rules seem ok for everyone (by "rules" I mean "guidelines you should follow unless you know what you're doing and have a good reason to do otherwise") then they should probably by quoted at the top of the thread, just so that everyone's clear on what's expected.

Then once people know what the campaign is about, they can write their characters into the action.

Any setting would work, as long as people know what's expected in that universe, but for the sake of simplicity it might be easiest to start off with something set on Tamriel, since I hope all of us have some sort of familiarity with that one...


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The quote said "if you" not "if I." :lol:

Well, uh... I suppose I could... though I really REALLY think it's a bad idea to put me in charge for anything after starting. I'm just not good with creating plot developments and such; and Deandra, you've already proven you're quite the writer. :wink:

I suppose if I take a couple days to figure out how the campaign could start and everything... but like I just said... it'll take a couple days. I'm not the fastest person when it comes to things like these. (I should totally get one of my friends to write it out for me... he's a genius at these things... *evil grin*)

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I'd say have either Deandra, Codex, or Bear be the baby-sitter of RP boards, or perhaps make something up relating to challenging the inner overlord within us to see who an RP specific moderator could be.

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I'm up for role playing but I've never done it before so I don't know anything about getting started.


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ironmaiden83 wrote:
I'm up for role playing but I've never done it before so I don't know anything about getting started.


We could make threads all about new roleplayers. :D

Also; all roleplaying boards thus far relied on the fact you had no way to fundamentally change the land in which the stories were being made with.

In Oblivion and Morrowind's case, however, this is not true, as anyone with the CS may create an entirely new game if they wish.

How would modifications be considered? Would we allow things like mods which add previously non-existent creatures (Both in reality and in TES: III/IV), such as a big blue colored reptile for a pet? Would you lose your guild privileges if you attacked your horse? Or would it go entirely unnoticed?

So the question is raised; only allow you to RP with what the vanilla game offers, allow any kind of mod to RP with, or only allow specific types of mods?

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I suppose we could find a way to get the annoying little bugs bethesda forgot out of the role playing experience, and possibly allow mod if they aren't unbalancing.
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After a long day of hunting the dark brotherhood, the evil wizard known as satan_n_stuff returned to his cave at the top of his mountain, to see if an adventurer had already killed his roommate and taken her amulet.

Or something like that.

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